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Dr. Spa™ Ret.:
--- Quote from: Sam on September 20, 2015, 03:52:57 pm ---
You can do a simple experiment in your own yard. Hook a 100' garden hose to your spigot. Open it all of the way and make note of the pressure coming out the end. Next hook up a 10' garden hose and compare the pressure. *spoiler alert - The 10' garden hose will have significantly more pressure coming out than the longer hose. This is a scientific fact.
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Ahhhh, no. The PRESSURE will be exactly the same (or so slightly different you wont be able to tell the difference). Now the flow...that will be quite different.
Now, considering you don't know the difference between pressure and flow ......
Tman122:
--- Quote from: Sam on September 20, 2015, 03:52:57 pm ---
Feel the pressure coming out of a jetpak with a 2.5 hp motor with all of the jets turned on. Now compare it to another brand of hot tub with the same motor and number of jets. Guess which one will have more power?
Additionally, there are significantly less holes in the shell. That means there are less potential for leaks and that the shell is stronger than it would be if there were holes for every jet. I'm not saying leaking jets are a huge problem, but I've fixed quite a few in my day.
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You are correct, on both accounts. Assuming that both tubs have the same pump. What if one of the other manufacturers out there actually uses a better pump (more GPM/flow) with more comfortable jets and well engineered plumbing system that uses less power that is a better system. So BF uses a 2.5HP motor of pump brand A and the other guy uses a 3 HP motor on a higher GPM pump brand b and it feels better and/or is stronger than the BF. Show me the data that says BF has more GPM outflow at the jets than say a Marquis Ephoria. Your manifold is your jet pac. Don't forget to calculate the friction loss (as mentioned by me earlier) of the water bouncing around in the pac.
Lets not argue plumbing guys. There's literally tens of thousands or more different combinations of motors, pumps, electronic, jet, plumbing designs that may be better, or worse?? No dealer or owner can tell me it's better so.....
How about this, it's a better design for you. I can compromise. But like I said, I'll say it again. To keep the thread name solid. Technology?.....streeeetch. Full power at all pacs........streeeeetch
I left out the hose part knowing it was incorrect to not make you look bad, your welcome.
Sam:
Semantics. I think everyone knew what I meant.
av8r:
--- Quote from: Tman122 on September 20, 2015, 03:00:53 pm ---
--- Quote from: av8r on September 20, 2015, 11:20:09 am ---
--- Quote from: Tman122 on September 20, 2015, 09:13:26 am ---OK lets talk about credibility. "You get full power at all jet pacs" This is scientifically impossible, it's a sales pitch but a bunch of you have fallin for it, drank the koolaid. If you turn all the power to one jet pac it has the full power of the pump, or as much as the plumbing and friction will allow. The second you turn on another jet pac the first looses power and gives it to the second and so on. The BF I looked at didn't have a pump for each jet pac. That's the only way "full power at all jet pacs" is possible.
So those who say "full power at all jet pacs"= no credibility, just koolaid.
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You need to think a little more logically. Full power doesn't mean the full level of pressure/volume available at the pump exhaust. It simply means that the system is designed to deliver the highest volume and pressure with as few obstacles to each seat. It's a more efficient design, no one can argue that point. Do BF sales people push the envelope with how they describe it? Probably, but we seem to have a generally more discerning group here that can look beyond that and appreciate the differences in the BF design.
Playing dumb doesn't help anyone, especially newer folks coming here to seek information. They're looking for an honest discussion with as little noise to signal ration as possible.
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People come here seeking unbiased information. Not skewed facts.
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If that's true, I can extrapolate that those people have never been on an internet forum before. :)
Tman122:
--- Quote from: Sam on September 20, 2015, 06:11:26 pm ---Semantics. I think everyone knew what I meant.
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I did Sam
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