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poolboy34:
go ahead and buy your spa at the dealer 600 miles away from you for 2000$ less.................and then ask for "FREE DELIVERY"....................see what happens........gas ain't cheap these days..so I'm guessing you can tack another 500$+ onto your 2000$ savings for a delivery fee................and then tack another 150$ onto every service call as a trip charge(that's being generous............it'll more likely be around 250$) because the dealer you bought from is contractually obligated to do service work on your spa, and NO your local dealer won't service your spa, and if they do CHOOSE to service your spa you can bet you'll be the last rung on the totem pole for that service as the customers who chose to buy from them will come first.

Julie:
Now I don't want to add more fuel to a fire already roaring, but I also believe that you get what you pay for.  The Sundance dealer I went to had sticker prices on all spa.  When I got down with the salelady she told us: "Now, spa price is 10K (sticker) for everyone.  Will you take the 1 year no payment plan?  No, then I'll take off 5%, putting us at 9500$.  No more dealing."  Like Steve said, it gives you a great feeling at that point, knowing that you don't have to argue with anyone and stress out on the price issue.  It was one of the reasons we went with the Cameo, that and we loved the spa.

And the service issue.  Maybe every Sundance dealer has to service your spa, but how eager will they be? Will you be put at bottom end of the list? I would bet on it. Now my NEW Cameo I just received last Friday is leaking, yes, LEAKING.  We found it out on Monday night.  Called the dealer first thing on Tuesday morning, told him about it.  Said "Oh, it's the most busy time of the year, people reopening their spas after the winter, finding out they have leaks because they didn't closed it properly.  But it's brand new, so I'll find some time for you on Thursday".  Just a 2 days wait, when the service guy is overloaded, not bad.  Would he have done this if I had bought my spa elsewhere?  Don't think so.  Would have told me to go to dealer, or given me an appointment in 1-2 weeks.  Now when you're stressed out because your spa looses about an inch of water a day and you have to refill it every 2 days, waiting is not fun, especially considering it's brand new.  I want it to be over.  Actually, I'm waiting news from my boyfriend about it, they were suppose to come at 3:00.

needaspa:
Any dealer can work on your respective spa!!  Do not be nieve to think the dealer whom you bought from must service it.  Its a contract between the buyer and manufacturer.  The dealer (who is qualified to do the work) does the work and then submits the bill to the manuf - the manuf then reimburses the dealer.  That's it.  There are 1000s of attorneys out there that will be glad to help you with a nonwilling or stuborn dealer.

'No, then I'll take off 5%, putting us at 9500$.  No more dealing."  Like Steve said, it gives you a great feeling at that point, knowing that you don't have to argue with anyone and stress out on the price issue.'  

The 500 discount was given to you not for not taking the financing but as an act to make  you feel good.  Banks do not charge the dealers to use their financing.  HEck, banks are eager enough to have the dealers use them (buyers not paying off in free period) and make money.  

'a great feeling at that point, knowing that you don't have to argue with anyone and stress out '

So you are willing to pay a premium for this?  YOu have to treat buying a spa like a business.  You are there not to make friends with the rep but to get a fair price.  I do not understand the cause of stress if you have done your research.

'Are coupons for $ off found on manufacturers websites and promos a "rebate" from the manufacturer? In otherwords if I strike a deal with a dealer then whip out the a coupon for $500 off will the dealer honor that because it's a "discount" from the manufacturer - not taking from a dealer's profit? '  YES!!!!!

ps - 'jerk off' thats a big word for you mendo

poolboy34:
needapsa.....you should really go talk with this fellow out  in colorado, b/c you two think alike.  Anyways, I hope you don't act this childish and pompous when you are trying to negotiate a price with your local sundance dealer, because it won't get you anywhere.  And as far as the service aspect................dealers sign a service agreement with the manufacturer to service all spas that said dealer sells of that manufacturers brand.  that's it, and if an attorney looks at the agreement, they'll see that.  You should also know that any and all businesses have the right to choose whom they will do business with, and it should also be noted that dealers also have the right to refuse servicing your hot tub if you are unrully, rude, arrogant, and overly demanding as well.  You really should read the fine print of all those contracts you are signing wantaspa....oops I mean needaspa ;D  Furthermore............the contract you sign at time of purchase won't have the manufacturer's name on it, it will however have the name of the dealer you are purchasing from, making your agreement between you and the dealer you are purchasing from.  

IOWASPAMAN:
You are right again poolboy.
Also needaspa, the if you read the post correctly, the $500 off was for not doing the 12 months no payment no interest option, which currently lending institutes are charging dealers 5-7% to use. They do not do this for free as you would assume. Straight financing there is no charge for. If there is a dealer out there that is getting the 12 months option for free let me know where you got from.

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