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D.P. Roberts:
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I think that it is foolish to say that anyone KNOWS with any certainty what the cause is. There are going to be people with "proof" on each side of the argument. I'm not going to watch one video, and accept it for fact. I'm also not going to watch Gore's movie and accept it for fact. I question anyone who clings too vehemently to either side of the argument for their motivation.
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Too true. After all, global warming is a theory. Evolution is a theory. Even gravity is a theory.
However, almost all scientists believe that global warming - the idea climates are changing rapidly, and humanity is to blame for these changes - is the most scientifically valid theory for what's happening on our planet right now.
That's a fact.
Is global warming a theory , wich may later be proven false? Certainly. Is there real debate in the scientific community over whether it's probably true or not? No.
Campsalot:
Reese says "Evidently you, Terminator, Thearm, and the others that were quick to jump on the "hoax" bandwagon are smarter/better informed than the vast majority, including most of the people who study climate."
I disagree! Site your sources; "including most of the people who study climate." Perhaps it is fairer to say that some of us posses more common sense than others. Granted for every source you site I'll site 5 to dispute it. That is the problem, there is no proof!
The entire Global Warming (GW) idea is a myth riding the the governments coat tails! It has become an industry and now has a life of it's own. Do you know that if global warming were finally de-bunked millions of people would lose there jobs. All based on the misconception that Co2 gas is causing the earth warm!
If nothing else it makes for exciting debate! ;D
D.P. Roberts:
--- Quote ---Reese says "Evidently you, Terminator, Thearm, and the others that were quick to jump on the "hoax" bandwagon are smarter/better informed than the vast majority, including most of the people who study climate."
I disagree! Site your sources; "including most of the people who study climate." Perhaps it is fairer to say that some of us posses more common sense than others. Granted for every source you site I'll site 5 to dispute it. That is the problem, there is no proof!
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Quoting web sites is not proof. Peer reviewed scientific studies are proof. Any review or analysis of the scientific evidence shows support for the "global warming" issue. For example, a Science Magazine article (3 December 2004) showed that of 928 research articles that mentioned global warming in their abstracts, 75% supported the idea that humans are causing global warming. 25% mentioned global warming, but did not directly attribute a cause. But ZERO percent - not one single study - refuted human-caused global warming.
Quote all the web sites and "experts" you want. I would be very interested in hearing about any study of the literature that showed otherwise. If the conclusions mentioned above - which are also the conclusions mentioned in the recent IPCC report and Al Gore's video - are wrong, then you are correct and global warming is a myth, and I will gladly recant everything I have said.
anne:
I dont see why those of you on the "hoax" bandwagon are so bothered by the idea that global warming deserves research. How can you so close-mindedly just say that because there is no "proof" (yet) that there is not the possibility that GW is real, and is in fact man made? The essence of science is to explore theories like this! It is so selfish and shortsighted to say that this research is a waste of money. And I think that the bigger picture goes far beyond the reality or myth of global warming- that is just a PART of the total change that our species (may be) creating.
Tman122:
--- Quote ---I dont see why those of you on the "hoax" bandwagon are so bothered by the idea that global warming deserves research. How can you so close-mindedly just say that because there is no "proof" (yet) that there is not the possibility that GW is real, and is in fact man made? The essence of science is to explore theories like this! It is so selfish and shortsighted to say that this research is a waste of money. And I think that the bigger picture goes far beyond the reality or myth of global warming- that is just a PART of the total change that our species (may be) creating.
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There's only one or two on the hoax bandwagon, the not to worry band wagon is loaded to capacity and we want nothing more than cleaner burning cars and factorys. But we don't want a whole bunch of tax payer cash lining the pockets of people confesed to the fact that our world is coming to an end because of GW.
Why is a more moderate approach so out of line? It seems that if you are not for it or against it you are suddenly for it in one camp and against it in the other depending on which camp is looking at you!! We have a whole lot of lifetimes to figure it out as a society, this lifetime does not need to overindulge in the cause, but it does need to focus on it's long term cure for our planets betterment long after our grandkids, grandkids, grandkids are gone.
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