Author Topic: The Great Pool and Spa Show (Read 36383 times)

Mendocino101 · « **on:** May 11, 2005, 03:48:55 pm »

Just heard a radio commercial promoting the Pool and Spa show in town this weekend ....I won't get into the credibility of its sponsor as it has been hotly debated here before...But in the add it promotes a $10,000 spa, for only $3995.00 ...I am genuinely wondering how many people respond to this ....If so , do you believe that is a genuine $10,000.00 spa ....I just wondered as so many seem to speak about dealer ethics and is this ethical ......As I am sure most dealers here will tell you there is no real $10,000 spa that can ever be sold legitimately for 3995.00.....Thanks for your input ...

Hot Tub Forum · « **on:** May 11, 2005, 03:48:55 pm »

Brewman · « **Reply #1 on:** May 11, 2005, 04:35:43 pm »

If it's being sold for $4k, then it's a 4K spa.
Wonder why they don't say it's a $20K spa, thereby saving the customer even more.
Brewman

J._McD · « **Reply #2 on:** May 11, 2005, 06:23:47 pm »

I would be very interesting to walk through and observe. �Leave you wallet in the car and lock your wife's purse in the trunk. �If the pressure turns on tell them you would like to THINK about it and return tomarrow. �Then come back and tell us what happened. �See if they give you a red, green or yellow bag to carry or maybe a balloon for the kids.

BTW, you might ask if Tim Beale is there, you can tell them you have seen his name mentioned on the web.

I would like to walk the show, but �I would be quickly identified and escorted out. They took me off their Christmas Card List ever since...........

I see their at the Pamona Fairplex Bldg 8 and Admission is FREE.

Jay_M · « **Reply #3 on:** May 11, 2005, 06:37:10 pm »

How do you determine what a spa is worth?

rocket · « **Reply #4 on:** May 11, 2005, 10:38:15 pm »

They pulled my business name into the ad here so I wrote to the State Attorney General. Using this, the fact that they were saying that they were opening a store here and gave address (I included photos of this potential retail location), told him of upset customers that had called us wanting their money back and included an article from the State Attorney general of Missouri who is suing them for the cashable voucher program. I just got a copy of a letter that the attorney gen. sent them with a stiff warning.

Good Luck

HotTubMan · « **Reply #5 on:** May 11, 2005, 10:56:29 pm »

WOW a $10K spa for $4K!!!!!

I could buy 2 or 3, sell them for $10K each and make a tidy little profit.....

Then I could use that money to buy a real spa.

J._McD · « **Reply #6 on:** May 11, 2005, 11:03:43 pm »

There is a sucker born every minute and two to take his money. �(and these guys do a good job at it)

Our (all the local dealers affiliated with the Association of Pool and Spa Professionals in our area with over 200 spas on display to see and sit in from 16 different manufacturers) show promoter is currently in �litigation (with the show promoter of the "National Pool And Spa Show) for undermining our show (saying our show moved into their show). �They know what they are doing and know where the hot pockets are. �these people are not naieve. �They are simply making hay while the sun shines and will be gone at some point in the future.

bosco0633 · « **Reply #7 on:** May 12, 2005, 06:00:02 am »

who?

they sound like frauds

Mendocino101 · « **Reply #8 on:** May 15, 2005, 08:42:21 am »

Went to the show yesterday.... What a complete and total sham ... When I asked about the 10,000 spa that was 3995.00 no one knew what I was talking about . When I was far less than quiet about it being in every radio commercial that had been running though out the day .... Someone went into the closers both came out and said , it was only good for the first 50 people, I said the ad does not say anything like that and I was told it did.... Got into the car ad came on again and no mention of 50 people. I am biting my tongue right now not to mention this maker by name .... But I will say that they are disgrace to all people in retail and of course particularly in the spa industry ...they have no principles , no morals .

autoplay · « **Reply #9 on:** May 15, 2005, 09:38:56 am »

What's the brand name they are trying to sell?

hottubber · « **Reply #10 on:** May 15, 2005, 10:18:01 am »

You're right about one thing here. This "greatest show on earth" is going on in every state across the nation. It is a total scam, and yes there is a sucker born every day. Beware of this type of show...

Buyers, you must be on your toes for this one.

hottubber...

J._McD · « **Reply #11 on:** May 15, 2005, 01:24:30 pm »

"I am biting my tongue right now not to mention this maker by name .... But I will say that they are disgrace to all people in retail and of course particularly in the spa industry ...they have no principles , no morals . "

It is truely unfortunate some of us actually know who this is and you are absolutely correct, they are a disgrace to the industry and to the many honest professionals that help consumers.

The spa they sell gets good reviews and those that have them enjoy them, it is just the marketing technique including bait and switch and the rip off artists that give it the bad name. Mowgli has been through this dishonest experience. They were going to deliver it but the dealer didn't know about it and said he wouldn't service it.

fatman · « **Reply #12 on:** May 15, 2005, 02:24:40 pm »

Could you please be politically incorrect and tell the rest of us who it is? It would be a shame for any member of this forum to get ripped when it could be easily avoided.

J._McD · « **Reply #13 on:** May 15, 2005, 03:41:15 pm »

This dog and pony show crosses the country hitting as many "hot spot markets" they can.

They are pressure selling what appears to be a "National Pool and Spa Show too big t be held in 15 showrooms with major manufacturers represented" (of course this is not true) They do a lot of damage to local markets, local sellers and buyers too.

Of course we all know there is NO $10,000 spa being sold for $3,995 but it sure make good fish bait and it brings in the unsuspecting shoppers to a show that is quickly recognized to be DOMINANTLY 1 manufacturer here today and gone tomarrow. Their show runs from a Friday to Sunday. They put out 300 to 400 road signs for traffic to see run a blitz ad campaign and they are on the plane when the local ordinance officers come back to work and get upset with the local spa sellers and the illegal signs advertising the "Pool and Spa Show".

I mentioned the main man in an earlier post in this thread. They very aggressively promoted the Consumers Trust rebate program with your spa purchase. This trust has recently been shut down by the Attorney General in MO as a Fraudulent Marketing Scheme and I think they have this guy along with others in their sights as well.

It is the marketing concepts that we deplore, which leave also leaves dealers with a bad taste in their mouths for the manufacturer.

The best recommendation I could give the consumer shopping a show, would be to make an appointment to meet in the showroom in the next few days to finalize the transaction. At least then you know they are a local business. Too many bad stories to tell about pressured sales at shows.

If it's a good deal today, It should be a good deal tomarrow, go check out the showroom and know who you are doing business with.

hottubber · « **Reply #14 on:** May 15, 2005, 03:58:24 pm »

Remember the show, I Dream of Jeannie? Barbara Eden always referred to Tony as MASTER, yes MASTER....

hottubber...

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