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Chas:

--- Quote ---One person said they could always get a new house or posessions.  I'd shoot immediately if they threatened my family, pets, or big screen TV.  And by being in my house uninvited they are automatically a threat to all of the above.

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I agree. I wish our laws could be changed to reflect that: if somebody breaks and enters an occupied home, they have the intent to harm. Nobody is stupid enough to do so otherwise: we are not talking about toilet-papering the yard here folks, they violated the private home of people who were asleep inside. That is a felony, and I don't see how any sane person can stand around after the fact and judge whether or not there was intent to do bodily harm or 'just take a few things which could be easily replaced.'

One of the bleeding-heart posters said something about 'now a life has been lost,' as if that was the crime - well if I see people in my home I assume that unless I do something, all the lives I am responsible for will be lost as well. So why is it such a big deal for the homeowner to do exactly what the kids - by their very presence in the home - posed as a very real possibility?

Cons have a saying, "if you can't do the time, don't do the crime." Not elegant, but it is the boilded-down version of taking responsibility for your actions.

East_TX_Spa:
One of the little criminal's sycophants sent me an illiterate e-mail telling me keep my opinions to myself.  I realize she is just a silly little girl and she is upset about her friend's demise, but I just have to wonder about some of his associate's who may try to give the homeowner more trouble.

That would seem to be an unwise choice since he is obviously capable of defending himself and his family.

Don't bring a shovel to a gunfight.

Terminator

Brewman:
  Hopefully the idiots can think this thru and realize that if they go after that homeowner (or anyone else for that matter) that a similar fate may await them.
I suspect he will be rather alert for anything out of the ordinary for some time to come.  

You'd think that being from Texas they'd understand that you just don't go breaking and entering period, let alone in the middle of the night.  From what I've seen, you guys have more of a right to protect your homes than we do up here in the land where criminals have more rights than their victims.


 

LtDan:
It’s too bad that your cop friend is so insensitive to family needs.  Whatever happened to “It takes a village to raise a child”?

Unfortunately the village can't teach your kids common sense, morality and values, that's the parents responsibility. Our society is not designed to have the village raise children, only the idiots.

I can't tell you how many times I've dealt with parents who claim they have done everything they can in raising their unruly/criminally inclined/delinquent/ etc..... child. The vast majority of the time you can tell them exactly how they are enabling the behavior (take away the car they are driving, stop giving them the money they are buying drugs with, keep the idiots they are hanging around with and learning from away, apply corporal punishment (kick their ass when needed), actually get involved at school with their teachers, I can go on for an hour). No one likes to admit they have dorked up their kids by enabling, easier to blame everyone else.

I've gone to many calls where parents want us to do the scared straight gig. The ultimate authority children should respect is the parents, if their kids don't respect them, why would they give a crap about what a stranger in a blue uniform has to say. They usually don't, just wind up hating cops even more. It would be better if people wouldn't use the police to scare kids into behaving, but maybe teach them that they can talk to an officer about their issues, we can provide a no BS picture of where they are heading.

The homeowner was absolutely correct in his response. If anyone believes these kids went from altar boys to doing home invasions in one evening they are kidding themselves.


That's my soapbox.

Brewman:
 Blaming society for criminal behavior is the ultimate in ducking responsiblity.

Place the blame where it lies- on the actor.

Nobody is "forced" into a life of crime.  That's just an excuse for the criminal element to justify their illegal activities.
No circumstances I can think of justify anyone taking what belongs to someone else.  

I'm gainfully employed, I pay my taxes, I obey the law, I provide food, clothing and shelter to my family, I donate money to charaties, I volunteer my time as a Deputy Reserve, etc....
Most of the other people I know are similar.  We're all doing our thing to be productive members of our community.
Together we are make up "society".  I can't think of a damn thing we've done that justifies the criminal behavior of those in my community.





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