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Holgmi585281:
--- Quote from: silversun on June 26, 2019, 03:45:36 pm ---This review is suspicious for two reasons
1. the amount of posts from new forum members with over the top glowing reviews of master spa. It happens at a noticeably higher rate than any other hot tub manufacturer.
2. the number of historical objections covered. The reviewer seems to hit on every major issue with master, from noise to build quality, to sales practices.
On a side note, you're using it for 2 hours each night?!! at 102 degrees!! WOW. I've never heard of that. how do you find the time?
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Hi Silversun and good evening .
First off its easy to use it for 2 hours or so on an evening here in the UK its quite cool here at the moment although the forecast for Friday to Sunday its hotting up to 34°C outside daytime . Yay at last 😁.
I might have hit on your so called historical objections maybe because i did lots of actual research . I read all the things that were posted on here and on consumer affairs reviews etc. I did extensive research in the UK and found no evidence here of what you are eluding to. I therefore decided i would post a real world review on my actual findings. If you would like to visit facebook on the Hot tub superstore in Blackpool UK you will see a few days ago my lengthy review about my Master Spa there too.
Quite simply i found the hot tub surpassed my expectations and im sure i will be looked after should i need assistance by the company Hot Tub Superstore. They are without doubt first class and very professional.
During our lengthy late evening soaks we occasionally depart the tub to enjoy a cigarette and a latte. I buy tbe cigarettes too myself 😁
swilly1000:
--- Quote from: silversun on June 26, 2019, 03:45:36 pm ---This review is suspicious for two reasons
1. the amount of posts from new forum members with over the top glowing reviews of master spa. It happens at a noticeably higher rate than any other hot tub manufacturer.
2. the number of historical objections covered. The reviewer seems to hit on every major issue with master, from noise to build quality, to sales practices.
On a side note, you're using it for 2 hours each night?!! at 102 degrees!! WOW. I've never heard of that. how do you find the time?
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Maybe:
1.Master is actually a superior product that the end user likes!!!!! Why haven't those same people posted bad comments later on when they found out just how terrible Master is???
2.He thoroughly researched his purchase decision and addressed all the negative comments about Master and determined that they simply aren't true*
Never going to stop the hating. Never going to stop those pissed off dealers from infecting the minds of new purchasers, who because of the shady nature of the market, are already in murky waters and especially in need of unbiased advice.
*And 95% of which are posted by dealers with a chip on their shoulder about "questionable sales practices" that the end user simply does NOT care about. Beating my flipping head against a wall with the haters. Always a rebuttal, always a "but this but that", always hating. Always "middle of the road" always "inferior".
silversun:
I'm not a dealer. I'm a consumer with first hand experience of master spas business practices. In my search I visited master along with many other dealers. I was unbiased and held no preconceptions about any hot tub. Master was one of the worst sales experience i've ever had. Not just in hot tubs, in anything.
And I definitely care if a dealer engages in shady business practices.
So, no. There's plenty of truth to the narrative that master engages in shady and deceptive business practices in the name of selling hot tubs.
I ended up buying a sundance and i've been very happy with the hot tub and the dealer. Glad you're happy with your purchase. Could it also be possible that Master owners have a chip on their shoulder from all the negative pub? From my perspective - someone who neither sells hot tubs nor purchased a master spa - it seems like yes.
but yeah. I'm sure Master have some happy customers too.
swilly1000:
--- Quote from: silversun on June 26, 2019, 04:58:40 pm ---I'm not a dealer. I'm a consumer with first hand experience of master spas business practices. In my search I visited master along with many other dealers. I was unbiased and held no preconceptions about any hot tub. Master was one of the worst sales experience i've ever had. Not just in hot tubs, in anything.
And I definitely care if a dealer engages in shady business practices.
So, no. There's plenty of truth to the narrative that master engages in shady and deceptive business practices in the name of selling hot tubs.
I ended up buying a sundance and i've been very happy with the hot tub and the dealer. Glad you're happy with your purchase. Could it also be possible that Master owners have a chip on their shoulder from all the negative pub? From my perspective - someone who neither sells hot tubs nor purchased a master spa - it seems like yes.
but yeah. I'm sure Master have some happy customers too.
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For the umpteenth time, I care about product quality not about how they penetrate their sales markets. That's between them and their dealers. I would much rather have a high performing tub than concern myself about their tent sales. The support I've gotten from my dealer has been terrific. The product is terrific. Go ahead and not buy a good tub because your social conscience is trumping your tub experience. I'll take those wicked jets thanks.
The only chip I have on my shoulder is for the newbies who are getting diverted from a solid product by the bulls**t they are hearing here. Case in point, this thread. The OP does a rigorous analysis and concludes that the tub doesn't cost a lot to run. But the OP gets dismissed a faker now. And me, well my methods are not rigorous, so I must be wrong, or lying.
Good luck newbie. If you're looking for me I'm getting in my high-performance tub for a soak. Over and out.
Spatech_tuo:
--- Quote from: swilly1000 on June 26, 2019, 06:01:48 pm ---
--- Quote from: silversun on June 26, 2019, 04:58:40 pm ---I'm not a dealer. I'm a consumer with first hand experience of master spas business practices. In my search I visited master along with many other dealers. I was unbiased and held no preconceptions about any hot tub. Master was one of the worst sales experience i've ever had. Not just in hot tubs, in anything.
And I definitely care if a dealer engages in shady business practices.
So, no. There's plenty of truth to the narrative that master engages in shady and deceptive business practices in the name of selling hot tubs.
I ended up buying a sundance and i've been very happy with the hot tub and the dealer. Glad you're happy with your purchase. Could it also be possible that Master owners have a chip on their shoulder from all the negative pub? From my perspective - someone who neither sells hot tubs nor purchased a master spa - it seems like yes.
but yeah. I'm sure Master have some happy customers too.
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For the umpteenth time, I care about product quality not about how they penetrate their sales markets. That's between them and their dealers. I would much rather have a high performing tub than concern myself about their tent sales. The support I've gotten from my dealer has been terrific. The product is terrific. Go ahead and not buy a good tub because your social conscience is trumping your tub experience. I'll take those wicked jets thanks.
The only chip I have on my shoulder is for the newbies who are getting diverted from a solid product by the bulls**t they are hearing here. Case in point, this thread. The OP does a rigorous analysis and concludes that the tub doesn't cost a lot to run. But the OP gets dismissed a faker now. And me, well my methods are not rigorous, so I must be wrong, or lying.
Good luck newbie. If you're looking for me I'm getting in my high-performance tub for a soak. Over and out.
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That is a key statement and great to see because while many here don't have much regard for Master and their products we all agree how important it is to have a good dealer no matter the brand.
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