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Expectations for Monthly Cost with BullFrog X7L
Roeboat:
Good point on initial start-up, costs more to heat 400 gals of 50 degree water. Also, more laundry loads of towels with an electric dryer and add a few KW. My electric bill has been about 9-10 KW per day more the past 3 months compared to last year, before I had the tub. (Caldera Makena - 400 gals). So, call it 10 KW per day more X 30 day + 300KW @ .08 cents = $24.00. I keep the water temp at 101 degrees. I live near Charlotte, so average temp range in winter is 30's-50's.
I read somewhere the the circulation pump that runs 24/7 is equivalent to a 40 watt bulb, or about $3.40 per month of the $24.00
I hope this helps.
Sam:
Tman, it's not a pitch. It's experience with 1000's of customers in a mountain climate. I'm tired of arguing with you about bullfrog. You've seen a total of 3 in your life so clearly i'm wrong and you are right.
BullFrogSpasMN:
--- Quote from: Tman122 on February 16, 2019, 06:57:11 am ---
--- Quote from: Sam on February 15, 2019, 03:16:06 pm ---I'd be shocked to see a bullfrog cost $50 a month unless you live at altitude and even then probably not. Bullfrog are very efficient. I have a guy at 9k feet and the best estimate that he has on monthly energy increase is about $35 in the coldest month of the year.
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I'll give you a 100% assurance a bullfrog can cost 50 bucks a month. Quit the pitch. Initial start up, Northern Minnesota climate, heavy use, all these things affect cost. BF is no exception and not as efficient as other tubs out there.
Want to be shocked, come to Northern Minnesota.
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They could hit probably hit $50 after a drain/refill during a cold month and accounting for heatup costs, but I will say X-Series is very well insulated cause they insulate the same way as all the Bullfrogs are insulated, better than 95% of tubs sold in a similar price range, hell they're better insulated than a 12k Sundance who claims 'full foam' but is far from it
bachman:
Hot tub use cost wasn't the shocker as it turned out.
People spending fifteen grand or more for a spa and posting worries of monthly cost was though !! lol That's truly what got my attention and rattled my cage. ;)
Last fall, we were considering a hot tub and planning to shop them to get preliminary ideas of size and footprint for soon-to-be landscaping projects that would ultimately include a spa. It was a longer range plan likely beyond 3-5 months before purchase.
Within a day or maybe even the same day we were going to one of the stores with 'solid' brands to get measurements and enjoy the eye appeal of the glossy upscale yard ornaments, my wife's boss discovered our interest and offered his tub he wasn't using much anymore.
The ramped up timing was exciting, as much so as the 'savings' but as I read more of hot tubs learning as I perused forums and sites, I realized folks that were willing to or had spent upward of $15,000 and well beyond that were asking , worrying or posting about monthly costs. That's the thing that triggered my interest in use cost.
I'm not suggesting everyone that spends 15 to 20 large is RICH yet at the same time, what's the actual worry or number on a monthly basis that would cause THEM concern ? ???
Happy to say I didn't see any evidence of real-world horror stories ref monthly bills. Just in general perusal, seen info that I considered pretty consistent within climate variables that $30 to $45 was the higher tier per wintering months although not extreme as some states to the extreme north and Canada.
I'll also say again that a lower than national average bill before tub might be based near 600 or 750 kWh a month and 300 to 450 more kWh sounds like a lot whereas more average homeowner use is upward of 900 or 1000 before tub. With just my wife and I, we experienced that "bigger percentage" too with previous month/s around 570 kWh. Just the same, 35 to 50 bucks may be the expected range in colder months (at .11 to .12 cents rate) no matter what your pre tub home kWh use was or is.
Tman122:
--- Quote from: Sam on February 16, 2019, 01:10:01 pm ---Tman, it's not a pitch. It's experience with 1000's of customers in a mountain climate. I'm tired of arguing with you about bullfrog. You've seen a total of 3 in your life so clearly i'm wrong and you are right.
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My post was 100% accurate, read it again. Give me the amp draw on the motor/s and wattage of heater and hours of usage along with climate and I can estimate it better but giving a range of 15 to 50 and asking for more info is accurate even if you don't want it to be. I never even considered the brand into the equation. Somehow you see it as a cut on BF but you always do.
If your tired of arguing give facts and not sales pitch. Meter one. I've metered hundreds. Even a small HS circ pump and heater can run over 50 here where I live. And a 30 dollar average is pretty close for most higher end brands. And I've seen BF's insulation, meh. The OP's salesman lied to him.
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