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Any recent opinions on Bullfrog Spas?
Hottubguy:
My take on bullfrog. 5 years ago I thought they were terrible. I just saw them and went through as best I could at the Vegas show about 5 months ago. They are a lot sharper looking and much better marketed now. They fixed the problem of the slime buildup by drilling some holes for circulation around the jet packs. I was impressed by them. Seems like in my area it's all jacuzzi guys selling them now which makes sense because I know a ton of old jacuzzi reps work there now. I don't necessarily think they are better then Watkins brands, Marquis or jacuzzi/sundance but I think they have a neat story and are very well made. I'd put them right there with those guys and would by one of those before a jacuzzi/sundance as the quality control on those tubs aren't what they used to be. I also like competing with them because there dealers seem to get good margins unlike some of my other competitors
Hottubguy:
--- Quote from: Sam on March 29, 2016, 12:57:36 pm ---Tman has always had a weird thing with Bullfrog. In the end, they have significantly less plumbing than a comparable spa. They have less holes drilled in the shell. They allow you to decide what jets you want and in what seat to put them. You can change them whenever you want. When they come out with a new pack, you can upgrade your old hot tub. JetPaks are patented and you cannot copy them.
This is all verifiable fact and not sales BS.
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I thought patents only lasted 7 years?
Compatico:
--- Quote from: Hottubguy on March 29, 2016, 10:04:52 pm ---I thought patents only lasted 7 years?
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US Patents are typically good for 20 years depending on the type of patent. For design patents it was 14 years until recently where it was changed to 15 years. This is from the date of first application, not the date the patent is filed. So assuming 20 years for the Jetpak filed in 2007 (patent 8,661,576), it's protected until 2027. After that, if no term extension is given the patent goes into public domain and anyone can make copies.
Jacuzzi Jim:
The thing with patents is what it is. Nobody that I know of has done a no by-pass filtration system other than HS. No one has done the exterior equipment pac other than Beach Comber. And no one has done the jet pac system other than Bullfrog. Arctic does their insulation system and I don't think anyone has really copied it. Patent or not maybe some just do not want to be labeled a copy cat for a better lack of terms?
I am sure there are other examples, any of you guys that have been in the industry can think of?
BullFrogSpasMN:
--- Quote from: Jacuzzi Jim on March 30, 2016, 12:04:31 am --- The thing with patents is what it is. Nobody that I know of has done a no by-pass filtration system other than HS. No one has done the exterior equipment pac other than Beach Comber. And no one has done the jet pac system other than Bullfrog. Arctic does their insulation system and I don't think anyone has really copied it. Patent or not maybe some just do not want to be labeled a copy cat for a better lack of terms?
I am sure there are other examples, any of you guys that have been in the industry can think of?
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pretty much everything is copycatted at some point...the only things that really aren't seem to be things that would require a complete new mold to be built (ie no-bypass or similar system that requires a very large filter compartment) anything that is a "component" will eventually be copied, ie Remote Controls, Salt Systems, Stereos, WiFi Apps, Jet Designs, etc....Also I rarely even hear the name Artic but isn't their insulation "system" similar to Maax?
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