I have been shopping for a hot tub and I really like the Bullfrog tubs. I am able to get a great price for a loaded A8. I am leaning towards that model because I don't want a lounger, and my husband and I want strong and accessible foot jets. I can't find a local dealer with an A8 to wet test, but I did test the A8L and the tub felt comfortable and the jets felt excellent, just no middle foot jet as in the A8. I would welcome comments by owners of any Bullfrog spas, and the A8 as well.