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JoesTub

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Hi,

I ordered a Bullfrog A8L last week, (delivery in 10 weeks) and I'm in the process of getting quotes for a brick patio/pad, as well as electrical service.  The spa looks to have 2-3 side entry points for electrical, and it looks like electrical can also come from underneath the brick patio/pad.

What is the preferred way to have the electrical run?

I'm assuming it would look cleaner if it were run underneath; however, this would require me to coordinate with the landscaper as they lay the brick, and would potentially limit future options (should i remove/replace the Spa)

If I run it through one of the chaseways, it would not look as clean, and would be a slightly longer run, but would provide greater flexibility in the future.

This is my first time buying a Spa, and also my first time having hardscaping/electrical work done, so please forgive my ignorance if it seems i'm overthinking this.

Thanks

Joe
« Last Edit: June 29, 2020, 09:34:43 am by JoesTub »

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swilly1000

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I ran mine underneath and it's a cool stealth install.  It requires serious coordination between you, your concrete and electrical guys and your dealer or manufacturer. Get a schematic of the underside of the tub to pinpoint the exact entry spot, check, double check and triple check the location of the conduit before the pad gets poured and congratulate yourself later for being so thorough.

JoesTub

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Thanks swilly1000 - appreciate the encouragement.  I have the schematic and have made  brick guys and electricians aware when i asked for quotes.

Quick question - do i have the electrician dig the trench and run the conduit first (and brick layed around it), or, have the brick layed, with a cut out for where the conduit will come throught?

Joe

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I had a concrete pad poured after the electrician trenched the conduit 18" (I think) below ground.

I had to correct the electrician's spot for the conduit before the pad was poured so ensure you are very diligent about the spot from which it comes up underneath.  Don't rely on your trades guy or you may end up super-pissed if they miss the mark.

Your brick guy should be able to cut around it when laying down the brick.

Below is a link to a photo of the pad just prior to the delivery of the tub. You can see the conduit on the LHS of the pic between the paver stones that I initially laid down for the tub to sit on so I could mark the spot to cut the ABS pan at the bottom of the tub:

https://photos.app.goo.gl/kmMFTzPvZZjxFGhu7
« Last Edit: June 29, 2020, 03:08:38 pm by swilly1000 »

JoesTub

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thanks again - that makes sense to me.  I hear you on making sure i have the cut out spot measured correctly - I have that calculated and will make sure i go over it again before finalizing the plans.

Pcola77

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I recently did the same (but under a stone base, not concrete or pavers), and am really glad I did. Just didn't want to worry about drilling a hole into the side, having conduit there for someone to trip on, etc.

BUT, our sales people were horrendous (although maybe partially blamed on how busy they have been because of COVID), and acted like I was crazy, and that no one does that, and they didn't have any schematic.  I knew they had one of our model on the showroom floor about an hour away, so I said I wanted to go there to look at it myself, and then they finally claimed to understand what I wanted to do. they told me where to drill up, and I said I could still come look just to be extra sure.  They assured me I didn't need to.  And of course they told me the wrong spot.   Luckily our electrician is a family friend,so he did the extra work to zig-zag around stuff that was in the way.  End result, I am happy with the cleaner look, but just make super duper sure you have the right spot.

JoesTub

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I recently did the same (but under a stone base, not concrete or pavers), and am really glad I did. Just didn't want to worry about drilling a hole into the side, having conduit there for someone to trip on, etc.

BUT, our sales people were horrendous (although maybe partially blamed on how busy they have been because of COVID), and acted like I was crazy, and that no one does that, and they didn't have any schematic.  I knew they had one of our model on the showroom floor about an hour away, so I said I wanted to go there to look at it myself, and then they finally claimed to understand what I wanted to do. they told me where to drill up, and I said I could still come look just to be extra sure.  They assured me I didn't need to.  And of course they told me the wrong spot.   Luckily our electrician is a family friend,so he did the extra work to zig-zag around stuff that was in the way.  End result, I am happy with the cleaner look, but just make super duper sure you have the right spot.

Thanks Pcola77.  I am using the schematic for the tub that I found on Bullfrogs website, https://www.shopthegreatescape.com/_wss/clients/20/assets/A8L:R8L:X8L.jpg and have updated the sketches i've made in Visio.  Here is my math:

Brick patio will be 12' X 9'; the base of the tub is 89.6" square.  I'll be positioning it so that it has an equal gap from each side and the back.

Internal Electrical Stub up is 5" from front, and 5" from left side.

Width = 108"
Tub = 89.6"
Total width gap = 18.4"
Gap on each side (right, left, back) = 9.2"

Mark to center of Stub up from Left = 14.2" (9.2" + 5")
Mark to center of Stub up from Back = 93.8" (9.2" + 89.6" - 5")

Thanks

Joe

Pcola77

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That math looks right, good luck!

I recently did the same (but under a stone base, not concrete or pavers), and am really glad I did. Just didn't want to worry about drilling a hole into the side, having conduit there for someone to trip on, etc.

BUT, our sales people were horrendous (although maybe partially blamed on how busy they have been because of COVID), and acted like I was crazy, and that no one does that, and they didn't have any schematic.  I knew they had one of our model on the showroom floor about an hour away, so I said I wanted to go there to look at it myself, and then they finally claimed to understand what I wanted to do. they told me where to drill up, and I said I could still come look just to be extra sure.  They assured me I didn't need to.  And of course they told me the wrong spot.   Luckily our electrician is a family friend,so he did the extra work to zig-zag around stuff that was in the way.  End result, I am happy with the cleaner look, but just make super duper sure you have the right spot.

Thanks Pcola77.  I am using the schematic for the tub that I found on Bullfrogs website, https://www.shopthegreatescape.com/_wss/clients/20/assets/A8L:R8L:X8L.jpg and have updated the sketches i've made in Visio.  Here is my math:

Brick patio will be 12' X 9'; the base of the tub is 89.6" square.  I'll be positioning it so that it has an equal gap from each side and the back.

Internal Electrical Stub up is 5" from front, and 5" from left side.

Width = 108"
Tub = 89.6"
Total width gap = 18.4"
Gap on each side (right, left, back) = 9.2"

Mark to center of Stub up from Left = 14.2" (9.2" + 5")
Mark to center of Stub up from Back = 93.8" (9.2" + 89.6" - 5")

Thanks

Joe

swilly1000

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BUT, our sales people were horrendous (although maybe partially blamed on how busy they have been because of COVID), and acted like I was crazy, and that no one does that, and they didn't have any schematic.  I knew they had one of our model on the showroom floor about an hour away, so I said I wanted to go there to look at it myself, and then they finally claimed to understand what I wanted to do. they told me where to drill up, and I said I could still come look just to be extra sure.  They assured me I didn't need to.  And of course they told me the wrong spot.   Luckily our electrician is a family friend,so he did the extra work to zig-zag around stuff that was in the way.  End result, I am happy with the cleaner look, but just make super duper sure you have the right spot.

Of course there is a schematic! If the dealer tells you otherwise, that's an open invitation to contact the manufacturer (and tell them about the dealer's ignorance of same).

Your experience is a perfect example of not relying on what someone else (especially the dealer!?) tells you. If you want something done right....
« Last Edit: July 01, 2020, 07:51:08 am by swilly1000 »

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