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Hot Tub Forum / Re: Sundance Hamilton leaking problems
« Last post by Ndamico on Today at 05:16:33 pm »
Hi,

here is a pic of the tag on the motor.  i'm trying to verify its as old as the tub but don't see a date on it.  can anyone assist?  i'm ok with replacing the whole thing if that's the right call. anyone have a recommended source?   what about brand?  i know emerson as i use their UPS units at work.


https://photos.app.goo.gl/S22yeYDud655g89b8

thanks
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Hot Tub Forum / Re: Sundance Hamilton leaking problems
« Last post by Jacuzzi Jim on Today at 09:15:17 am »
Bite the bullet and get the whole thing. Depending on how long it's been leaking there is a good chance the shaft is rusted and or pitted. So you might not get a good seal with the new wet end.  Mot to mention it's a 10+ year old spa & pump.
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Hot Tub Forum / Re: First Time Purchaser Help
« Last post by bachman on Today at 05:11:02 am »
I recommend shopping around for a deal. My neighbor bought a Sundance Optima (about $12k). His water is cloudy all the time and I went over to test his water. He doesn't know if he has an ozonator or what he is using for sanitizer. All his dealer told him was it is a chlorine free spa. He has changed his water 2 times in the 6 weeks he has had it. He does not have a frog system and the two times I tested his water he was 0 chlorine/bromine. Long story short, make sure you know what your buying and have an idea of what you are going to use to keep the water clear.

Good advice and as to the second part....

Oh man, sad to see that but I'm glad you mentioned it.
Others may see that (hopefully rare) example and realize a tub is just a wee bit of homework to the set up and maint… and def NOT the amount of homework or drama of actual learning and shopping a $$$$$ luxury or therapy item as these in the first place. :D

Hopefully the owner gets a handle on it because it's so much easier to learn some basics and get your hands wet than to go thru a refill, they just don't know that yet. I wonder if the neighbor is impatient or the sales staff pre-sold him on a tub that "needs nothing" ? 

Mine has had a few cloudy days too but I'm learning at about 6 weeks in. TH low was it once, now I believe the ph is a tad high. I slacked a little on use and testing so it's likely our use cycle changes. Consistency is likely the key to ease.
I'm also finding the drop/vial test kit and the strips are actually proving to be quite similar and reliable on results. Happy to have that confirmation.

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Hot Tub Forum / Re: I don't think I can afford to go through a dealer.
« Last post by bachman on Today at 04:42:23 am »
Happy to hear you are looking at this from your updated point of view.

I've been a miserly shopper and I've went extravagant on things, been in sales or marketing of some sort for my early half of career and the one phrase that speaks to me now more than ever is Ownership Experience. I think too many people cheat themselves from a good experience over the long run by a few dollars here or there. I'd done it in the past with tires. Thumpy and road noise, poor ride or traction and yet I'd suffer that car every day for years possibly saving $150 total on 4 tires. That's a penny every 20 miles in tire cost over the life of tire tread.
I think the peace of mind in a purchase like this is no small part of the ingredient and spa owners or those in the industry that attest to a handful of name brands and models is a sweet cheat sheet to zeroing in on the better candidates. Your mention of warranty is a good point too. These things create happy life / happy family for people 12 - 15 years and on. 

Nordic looks like a really well thought out line putting the money where it counts and other brands/models of quality rep look a bit more frills or sparkle for those willing to pay for it. I think the important thing is getting the quality of the innards and design as the basis to start from anyways and my guess is even the real handyman fix-it types of owners appreciate having a tub they don't have to wrench on or troubleshoot problems often. Good luck ! 

 
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Hot Tub Forum / Re: I don't think I can afford to go through a dealer.
« Last post by Spatech_tuo on December 10, 2018, 11:14:31 pm »

They asked if we wanted financing -- I said no. Does that raise or lower the price?


The finance companies are in the business to make $$. The dealer may take a bit of the hit but otherwise it goes to the customer in the way of a higher price tag though its not like they'll tell you that. By you answering that question as NO to financing the dealer now knows he can give you a better overall deal.
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Hot Tub Forum / Re: I don't think I can afford to go through a dealer.
« Last post by castletonia on December 10, 2018, 11:10:31 pm »
Nordic makes a quality product, nothing wrong with them.  Cash or check will always get you the best price.  Credit card and financing have merchant fees.
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Hot Tub Forum / Re: I don't think I can afford to go through a dealer.
« Last post by LobsterizeMe on December 10, 2018, 10:53:49 pm »
UPDATE:

I think it's important that I do go through a dealer. Yeah a Costco hot tub can be returned for 6 months, yeah some credit cards will extend the manufacturer warranty for 1 extra year, but that's not enough. I'm convinced going through a dealer is the way to go.

I went to a Nordic dealer and really liked the Retreat. Was quoted $5k. They also sell Master Spas and we liked the Clarity and Twilight models (quoted $7k and $9k), but then found out Master Spa doesn't have a very good reputation.

Going to a Hot Spring dealer next.

They asked if we wanted financing -- I said no. Does that raise or lower the price?

Any advice on how to negotiate a low price? We were outmatched.

I am glad I said we would go home and think about it, because I think buying a Master Spa would have caused me worry. The Nordic probably would have worked well (still might).

Perhaps I'll still go for a cheapo option, but I gotta say, what the eyes see the heart desires!
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Hot Tub Forum / Re: First Time Purchaser Help
« Last post by kies1 on December 10, 2018, 09:11:53 pm »
We looked at jacuzzi, Arctic spa, sun dance and hotsprings. My wife is very petit. We ended up with a hotsprings flash in their lime light series. It has a foot pod in the Center with 4 jets. My wife is quite comfortable in it. We are using bromine and water quality is no issue. We have been very happy with it. All three other brands were more money but what one ius over was the local hotsprings dealer. Make sure your not only buying a quality tub but you are dealing with a quality dealer. I think the latter of the two is just as important as the hot tub you decide on maybe more.
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Hot Tub Forum / Re: First Time Purchaser Help
« Last post by Roeboat on December 10, 2018, 08:46:34 pm »
And maybe look for a model that has a foot ridge. I gives you a place to use your legs and feet to stay in place.
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Hot Tub Forum / Re: First Time Purchaser Help
« Last post by Roeboat on December 10, 2018, 08:43:04 pm »
I Started out much like you with on-line research, went to the stores and got the brochures and the sales pitch. I really liked the Hot Spring Flair but they didn't have one for me to look at. Went to Sundance, they were just ok. The Artesian Elite Spas were really nice (Dove Canyon) but a little more then I wanted to spend ($13.5k). Went to the Jacuzzi, Marquis, Caldera dealer to check out a Marquis. They were ok. The Jacuzzi's seemed super expensive to me. After wet testing all tubs, I bought a Caldera Makena demo (on the floor about 2 months) for $8K. (on the advice from some nice dealers on this forum) We couldn't be happier, its a great spa. It has a Frog system, ozonator, and circulation pump and I am using bromine for sanitizer.

I recommend shopping around for a deal. My neighbor bought a Sundance Optima (about $12k). His water is cloudy all the time and I went over to test his water. He doesn't know if he has an ozonator or what he is using for sanitizer. All his dealer told him was it is a chlorine free spa. He has changed his water 2 times in the 6 weeks he has had it. He does not have a frog system and the two times I tested his water he was 0 chlorine/bromine. Long story short, make sure you know what your buying and have an idea of what you are going to use to keep the water clear.

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