Hot Tub Forum
Original => Hot Tub Forum => Topic started by: nsavarirayan on May 17, 2007, 03:21:45 pm
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Hi All,
I have received some quotes for Marqui. Can anyone who has purchased one or sells them let me know if I am being quoted a fair price. This is his sale price (pre tax):
Epic: 10432
Reward: 9500
630/530: 7392
I would like the luxury series but that is outside my price range - if he could give me 9K for the reward i would be interested. So let me know if these are good prices. I guess it all includes the lift, etc...
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You will probably get all sorts of different prices asking this type of question.
Retail pricing the in the spa industry is set at the dealer level, so depending on their cost of doing business their retail price will reflect that. There are variables like rent, utilities, labor, insurance...
So if someone comes back and states they got an Epic for $9,500 it does not mean your dealer is charging too much.
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Yeah i understand that but i would like to be in teh same ballpark at least. But it does seem that Marquis is priced higher then HS?
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You will probably get all sorts of different prices asking this type of question.
Retail pricing the in the spa industry is set at the dealer level, so depending on their cost of doing business their retail price will reflect that. There are variables like rent, utilities, labor, insurance...
So if someone comes back and states they got an Epic for $9,500 it does not mean your dealer is charging too much.
It could though.... this is why it's good to see what else your money can buy in your specific market.
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Yeah i understand that but i would like to be in teh same ballpark at least. But it does seem that Marquis is priced higher then HS?
From what other have posted $10.500 is well within the ballpark.
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Buying and Selling are simple, just be straight forward with your dealer and let him know what you want and if its reasonable than you should be able to put together something that will work for both of you. I think sometimes both shoppers and dealers worry to much about revealing what they really want or need when the upfront and direct approach usually will work out the best.
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Yea mendo that will work great.
how much for that spa?
Um...how much is it worth to you????
In a capitailist society built on an open and free market, competition, price and market needs clash. It's up to the consumer to ensure they are getting a square deal (Caveit Emptor). REsearch. See what your dollars can buy.
But I find it funny that you put the onus on the consumer...."BE honest with the dealer and let him know what you want"
I'd turn it around and say to the dealers "Be honest with the consumer and state the acutal selling price".
oh wait that's what you did say.... never mind.
I am in a bad mood today. Sory.
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sorry Drew the whole post went way way over your head, both parties here seem to be up front and they are not that far away from a deal, perhaps I am just a bit to flexible to want to try and work out something for a customer, perhaps rigidity would be the wiser choice. Who knows what both parties can work out should they just make there needs very clear. And Yes to a certain degree it is on the consumer since what the dealer may interpret what he may think is the issue when it may not be. There are many aspects to a deal and sometimes with open communication from both sides you can find a way to make it work. But I will be sure to take your advise in the future and let firmness coupled with the steadfastness of of being completely non-flexible be my guide..... ::)
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Drew,
I did not see the sorry about the end of your post....sorry...but my point is, that in this case the cards are on the table and they are close. What many consumers may not fully appreciate is when a customer says I am ready to do this now if you can do this for me. The ready to do this now part, opens many a door sometimes. And this is not about playing a pricing game its about making a deal happen, non ordering , buying out of stock on hand, no steps needed, etc....there are things that can encourage both parties.
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Drew wants a deal on an air conditioner...he is not a happy camper :(.
Keep trying, Drew. ;)
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Those prices are definitely reasonable. At the Marquis stores in Oregon the Epic sells for over $11,000, Reward over $10,000 and U530/U630 Just under $8,000. Those prices are without cover lift and steps. I agree with Mendo, find the spa you like and see if their is anything you can do to negotiate a better deal....for instance a cash/check discount, the $200 internet coupon, maybe get them to throw in a years worth of chemicals...
Be thankful you live in the US, the Epic sells for 22,000 USD In Spain :)
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Just to be clear the prices I quoted are with the steps and lift included. I think based on my bottom dollar I could only afford teh 530 which he said would be out the door for 8050 - they are having 20 percent off right now. So i guess i would test that tub. the other hot tub i looked at was Hot springs vanguard - they want 8350 plus 300 for the lift. Then the Caldera Tahitian is available for 9000 which seems pretty nice and includes the lift. Decisions decisions!
Damn shopping for a tub is a lot harder then I thought.
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Definately try the 530! We ended up buying the Epic but we also wet tested the 530 and loved it.
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Ok great thanks for your opinion - I will be sure to wet test it. The Epic and Luxury series is just out of my range and the 530 is abosultely in my range and is a grand less then the others i have looked at.
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I was quoted 11 for the Epic, but when I said that I didn't want to spend so much, I was told that I could probably get it for 10 because he was just about to place an order for one and would just add another. He had a Reward in stock that he would let go for $9,500.
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The Epic was out of our price range too but we made the mistake (I don't think of it like that now),of jumping in the Epic just for fun. ;) Then for even more fun, we listened to the Soundsations :o...Long story short, between kids and a husband who thought we should just go ahead since we would probably only do this once....we got the Epic and the sound system. We all agreed however that the 530 would be our choice if Mom couldn't find the financing somewhere...Marquis helped me with that and within the year, I was able to come up with the difference. I am not encouraging you to do this. I admire anyone who sets a budget and sticks to it.
Good luck.
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The Epic was out of our price range too but we made the mistake (I don't think of it like that now),of jumping in the Epic just for fun. ;) Then for even more fun, we listened to the Soundsations :o...Long story short, between kids and a husband who thought we should just go ahead since we would probably only do this once....we got the Epic and the sound system. We all agreed however that the 530 would be our choice if Mom couldn't find the financing somewhere...Marquis helped me with that and within the year, I was able to come up with the difference. I am not encouraging you to do this. I admire anyone who sets a budget and sticks to it.
Good luck.
Bonibelle - thanks for your input. May I ask what else you tried out during your tub search - did you try any Caldera spas?
What reallyt is the major difference between the Luxury series and the 530?
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nsavarirayan: The main difference between the two lines is going to be bells and whistles type of features. For instance floating remotes, colored spa & waterfall lighting, in-home monitor, larger LCD control in the spa, ect. The Epic is going to be a little bit more therapy oriented but the power of the U530 is very comparable. 320 gallons per minute vs. 290 gallons per minute. The warranty is 2 years less in the everyday living line that the U530 is in. The construction and quality is exactly the same except on the base. The Marquis luxury line uses a plastic high-impact acrylic base whereas the everyday line uses a polysheet bottom. The filtration is exactly the same and water management is exactly the same. The SmartClean automatic clean up cycle is exactly the same. I have actually had people wet test the two and prefer the U530. Both are very comfortable, I would schedule a time to wet test.
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nsavarirayan: The main difference between the two lines is going to be bells and whistles type of features. For instance floating remotes, colored spa & waterfall lighting, in-home monitor, larger LCD control in the spa, ect. The Epic is going to be a little bit more therapy oriented but the power of the U530 is very comparable. 320 gallons per minute vs. 290 gallons per minute. The warranty is 2 years less in the everyday living line that the U530 is in. The construction and quality is exactly the same except on the base. The Marquis luxury line uses a plastic high-impact acrylic base whereas the everyday line uses a polysheet bottom. The filtration is exactly the same and water management is exactly the same. The SmartClean automatic clean up cycle is exactly the same. I have actually had people wet test the two and prefer the U530. Both are very comfortable, I would schedule a time to wet test.
You mention "therapy oriented" thats why I want a hot tub. How is the therapy in the 530?
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Both are great spas, I think Marquis did a better job on the 530 than the 630 for therapy. The 530 is a spa that my wife likes very much. I prefer the Epic, we have both wet in our store.
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I responded to your question in my thread but I'll respond here as well.
I believe my purchase was from the same dealer, as I'm not aware of any other Marquis dealers in Phoenix. I purchased mine at Reflection Spas.
$10230 For the Epic out the door. However I originally got my price quote at the end of 2006 on a 2006 model. Delays selling my house delayed my purchase. When we were finally ready to make the deal, Brett honored my originally quoted price. They've been very good to deal with so far.
Your quote is in the same ballpark.
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Yes I just talked to Brett today - i guess the prices have gone up since these are 07 models. I guess I have to check out the 530 and see how it feels compared to some other models.
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I also wet tested the 530 and thought it was great. We went in it when we wet tested the Destiny. Of course the Destiny had more bells and whistles like Bonibelle said, but I would have been perfectly happy with the 530. Good luck.
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I got a quote for the Epic for 9190 (lifter but no stairs). It was listed on a price list at 9990, but they were having a "sale" (it seems everyone is always having these sales). The Reward is listed at 9390, and the 530/630 is at 6690 on the price sheet, but I don't have their sale price.
I got these quotes from a place called East Coast Wholesale Distributes just north of Washington DC. They are a huge place that sells a bunch of brands with a cool water moving hose system that transfers water between the tubs, so you can pretty much wet test everything. I did get this uneasy hyper used cars saleman feeling about this place, though, and what looks to be low ball prices do not make me feel any easier about this company. Has anyone on this board dealt with this company?
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That's where I bought my Marquis sport 500 spa about 6 years ago. They were/are great in my opinion. They came out to the house for a site inspection to see what would be needed before buying the spa. After we reinforce the deck and took off the rail, they were able to push the tub up to the location. Hooked it up, gave us start up instructions. Had a few problems with the jets, and came out the next day for service. We delt with Ryan, very down to earth and didn't try to upgrade us into anything. Need to give them heads up to wet test since they may need to increase the temp. price included stairs and lifter and starter chemical. They have a coupon in the local paper, but you usually get that "discount" anyways. Also look for Marquis coupon on the Marquis site if that is the brand you are looking at.