Hot Tub Forum
Original => Hot Tub Forum => Topic started by: patrick on March 03, 2007, 05:21:00 pm
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My wife and I are getting close to buying a hot tub. We have narrowed it down to the Hot Springs Vanguard or possibly a Marquis like the 744E or the Destiny. The price at the Portland Oregon homeshow last weekend for the Vanguard was $9,600 including the cover, start-up kit, everfresh system, and delivery (standard stuff). The sales guy was saying this was about $1,000 off the normal price since they had a floor model. But checking on another forum some users were saying $8,000 is a fair price for the Vanguard. We have been disappointed in dealing with all the local spa dealers around here. They act like used car salesmen. We have been doing a lot of internet research and have scheduled to wet test Marquis. Trying to get the Hot Springs guys to schedule a wet test also (waiting for the call back).
We are a little worried the Hot Springs guy was price gouging us. The Marquis dealer said he could get us in a Destiny for around $8,800.
Any information on prices would be helpful,
Thanks
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Your Destiny price is fair, Some Marquis people find the Destiny to be their favorite spa. If you don't care about a lounge it would be my pick.
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WHAT :o!!
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http://www.marquisspas.ch/downloads/spasvergelichmeng.pdf
Hope this helps!
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I am sure that will help him perhaps you can highlight for him, things like the ability to transfer your warranty, or the cabinet that is covered for 7 years and actually offers some owners protection, perhaps the lack of exclusions, maybe you can point out that for 3 years your oznator, lights, fuses, cover are also covered. That its no fault for things like top side control. pump seals, heater, motors. I mean since you are lending a hand and all.
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I am sure that will help him perhaps you can highlight for him,.... I mean since you are lending a hand and all.
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his name is Marquis Mary not Mark... ;)
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Yes that is high for the Vanguard.
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Yes that is high for the Vanguard.
It also includes the cradle cover removal system and the ozonator (sp). The dealer is saying that is worth $1000. Still seems high to me :-?
I appreciate everyone's comments. Big decision since it is the price of a small car :)
Wet test hopefully will make it easier to decide.
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Make sure your Marquis dealer really gives you a good understanding of how to work the tri-zone and how you can focus therapy for the upper or lower back, I am sure you will find it to be a great soak. The Vanguard is also a nice unit.
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Yes, that is a high price for the Vanguard IMHO. Try going to other dealers in your area/region. You should be able to get if for much less or at least find one you feel good about giving your money too.
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Well, I'm very sorry, but I don't have any real concrete info on pricing. We sell it for less than that, but we are not in your market.
As far as the Vanguard itself, it has a load of nice features, and I am happy to say that just about all of the features translate into benefits for most folks. Not a lot of fluff, or features just to impress on the showroom floor.
A wet test is a great idea. I have only got one tub up and running right now, the Envoy, and I can't wait until I get some more going. It is such a nice way to figure out if certain seats are going to be good for you or not, if you can stay in the deeper seats, if the jets hit you in good places, if the feel of the jets is powerful but not too strong or weak.
And take plenty of time with the adjustments. Both Maquis and HotSpring have huge amounts of adjustments as far as water pressure, amount of air injected into the jets, size of the jet nozzles, type of jet nozzles, etc. Don't just plop into a seat and pronounce it good (or not good) until you try it with the diverter in different positions, the air controls in different positions, different types of jet nozzles plugged in and swapped out...
I have sold a bunch of the Vanguard models - every customer has reported back that they are thrilled with it. The one family who loved it at first but traded it up for a Grandee, only did so when one of the kids moved back home with two grandkids. Ah life...
BTW - Home show prices and county fair prices are generally the same or higher than regular in-store prices.
8-)
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We have been doing a lot of internet research and have scheduled to wet test Marquis. Trying to get the Hot Springs guys to schedule a wet test also (waiting for the call back).
We are a little worried the Hot Springs guy was price gouging us. The Marquis dealer said he could get us in a Destiny for around $8,800.
Any information on prices would be helpful,
Thanks
Let both dealers know you're interested but are also weighing their spa versus another spa (you can name the other brand, especially since they're both good and the dealer therefore shouldn't be able to badmouth the other product). In doing so it helps to make them realize you are not beholden to their offer only and if they are willing to bagain this should help get them to do so.
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It also includes the cradle cover removal system and the ozonator (sp). The dealer is saying that is worth $1000.
How kind of him, seeing that all HotSpring spas come with the ozonator.
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Have you checked out George Morlan (The Water Heater King)? I don't normally reccomend places like that and I have never personally been there... but my parents bought a Sweetwater (I believe that was the name for the lower end of Sundance) about 4 years ago or so. It was this time of year and they heard an ad on the radio. They got it cheap. After about a year they did have the heater go out, but they came out and fixed it quick and with no issues. My parents did (reluctantly) pay a trip charge but that was their fault because the guys came out to work and the wiring for the tub was not up to code (it was from their first hot tub 20 years earlier). My parents live about 50 minutes from Portland, so I thought they deserved to pay the $40. :)
I know cheap isn't always best, but my parents got a good tub at a great price and have had good follow-up care, so it might not hurt to check out.
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How kind of him, seeing that all HotSpring spas come with the ozonator.
That's why I hate dealing with these guys, I feel like they are filling me with a bunch of crap, and it looks like I was right. They appear to be the rejected car salesmen types here. Looks like I'll start checking with some other dealers outside my area and see if I can find someone who won't be jerking me around.
I appreciate everyone's help and comments, keep them coming!
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Question, unless I missed it you seem to be having an issue with your local Hot Springs dealer, How has the Marquis dealer been?
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The Destiny is an awesome tub. It is the most powerful tub that Marquis offers. Definitely wet test. The Marquis stores in the Portland/Salem area are actually a division of the factory rather than an independent dealer.
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Question, unless I missed it you seem to be having an issue with your local Hot Springs dealer, How has the Marquis dealer been?
The Marquis dealer has always been good. When I initially went in to Marquis I dealt with a saleswoman who was nice to talk to. Actually all the sales people in Marquis have been very friendly and low pressure. My wife called back one day to talk to her one day and she had left employment there. We had a short talk with a salesman at the Home Show, but it was a quick conversation. Our main dealings at the Home Show were with the Hot Springs guy.
We went out lastnight and wet tested the Hot Springs Vanguard and the Marquis Destiny and 744E. The Vanguard was a nicer looking tub, but we found that we liked the jets in the Marquis better. In fact the cheaper 744E had the best theraputic jets for both my wife and I. At first when we got in the Marquis we both looked at each other and said that the Marquis looked a little cheesy compared to the Hot Springs, but once we started the soak we decided it felt better.
Also our experience with the Marquis dealer was much better than the Hot Springs dealer. We both felt like the Marquis deal was not pressuring us and in fact was pointing out some of the positive points of the Vanguard. The Marquis salesman seemed much more interested in explaining the services they would provide after purchase. Both my wife and I felt comfortable dealing with the Marquis sales people, where we were unsure about Hot Springs. Had the Hot Springs sales people been better we may not have made it to Marquis for the wet test. In the end It came down to fit and dealer preference. I think both tubs are great, but the Marquis just fit us better. And we got a great deal. So we bought it and saved several thousand dollars over the Hot Springs.
I appreciate the input I gained from searching the posts on this forum.
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I bought a Destiny back in October and we paid $9159 - that's including tax, cover, steps, everything. We only had it for a week (long story, but it had nothing to do with the tub....it was a horrible dealer) but we really liked the Destiny. If you do a search on "Floor Model or Destiny" you'll find the thread.
Now we have an Artesian Piper Glen and love it.