Hot Tub Forum
Original => Hot Tub Forum => Topic started by: beach on January 06, 2007, 12:15:52 pm
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People who bought a stereo with their spa - do you find that you use it often? Could you live without it? Was it worth the extra bucks?
For folks who opted not to purchase the stereo - do you wish you had purchased it or are you happy without it and perhaps with a $10 boombox or some other cheaper solution?
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When I get into my spa it's to relax. Peace and quite is what I want in there. If I wanted to listen to music I'd sit in the living room with the big buck surround sound.
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I got the stereo and the remote with my Cameo. We like it and listen to it often. It just just another one of those options that is a personal preference.
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I would no more buy a spa with a stereo built in than I would buy a stereo with a spa built in.....
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Extremely huge waste of money as far as I am concerned. Plus for that kind of money, the sound leaves a lot to be desired. use that money to but a bigger/better spa.
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I have one on my tub, but for bang for the buck, I would buy a cheap stereo and wire in outside speakers and save the rest of your money. I think the in-tub stereo's are over priced.
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We have the sound system in our Epic (transducers in the shell). My husband HAS to have music...all the time and he loves the system.
I am fine without it, but sometimes I enjoy the music, depends on the mood I am in. My kids love the sound system.
The transducers are far superior to speakers on your deck...We have both and the sound quality and your ability to hear the music above the jets is much much better with the transducers.
If we were to do it again, knowing what we do, I would say, without a doubt, YES we would get the sound system. Like VLady says, it is really a personal preference but if you enjoy music and you find that music is part of your relaxation...then go for it. ;)
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I have one on my tub, but for bang for the buck, I would buy a cheap stereo and wire in outside speakers and save the rest of your money. I think the in-tub stereo's are over priced.
I agree! Personally speaking.... I don't stock Stereo Spas. For the price difference I recommend people buying outdoor speakers and a stereo to run it. This can be obtained for a fraction of the price usually. Thats just my opinion though, I have sold Stereo Spas but I always advise against it.
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I ordered the SpAudio II system with my new HS Envoy. I didn't have a stereo in my old tub and didn't listen to music while in the tub, but now that I have this system, it's on whenever I'm in the tub. I like the sound quality of the transducer system and the external speakers mounted on the wall of the patio. I would do it again if I had to get a new tub.
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Got the stereo in the Optima. Worth it in my opinion.
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I sell Arctic Spas. We have two stereo options. I still believe if you have a good home stereo, purchase good outdoor speakers (around $150) is a better choice.
Michael
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I'd never put money into a spa audio system. I purchased my spa to be a spa, and for outdoor sound, you can do MUCH better with LESS money just getting outdoor speakers, etc. Gimicky waste of money, IMO. I'm influenced by having a serious audiophile BF, I'll admit.
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I would no more buy a spa with a stereo built in than I would buy a stereo with a spa built in.....
LOL ;D
I do not have a stereo nor do I want one. I work construction and have to hear LOUD noises all day. So when I get home all I want is a little peace and quiet.
Their also [glow]WAY[/glow] overpriced. The only way to justify the cost would be if the actual singers came out of the stereo and performed live.
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I use it to keep the critters away and to drown out the coyote howling while I'm soaking. They aren't too fond of my choice of music.
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Usually the people who speak out against the stereo option are the ones who either could not afford it or convinced themeselves that it couldn't possibly sound good. My system has Bose speakers and the sound is excellent. I agree with Han Solo, there are times when silence is best, but it's nice to have and we use it often.
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My opinion,using outdoor speakers is the route to go. I have 2 outdoor speakers,which sound fine. They are hooked up to our living room amp,and I also have em fed through our cable. I can listen to uninterrupted music via cable music channels,or watch/listen to a football game,while in the hot tub. (I'll get a pic,it's a sweet set-up)
In our other room i have the real chit. Running Klipsch speakers for surround,and a 700+ watt Yamaha amp.
As others have mentioned,put the majority of your budget into the speakers. When looking at amps,and money no object....look at the "THD" total harmonic distortion,and try to get the lowest number as possible. Sony in that regards(thd) shcuks!
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If I knew it was not going to be a source for trouble
and money was no object I would probably would
want a built in stereo.....but it just seems it would be
something that would likely "be on the blink" more than
other options like a waterfall.
Sure you can do the boom box deal ....IMO kind of a "rig"
Or the big fancy stereo with the outdoor Bose speakers
but whats that gonna cost? Plus the wiring
and control features vs a unit built in to the spa
with all the controls right there at your finger tips.
If it really really worked and was trouble free and
I mean stereo and speakers.....I would want the
built in one.....but I just do not think that is the case.
(http://lifespas.com/images/sound_system.jpg)
(http://www.qualityleisure.com/ebay/qualityleisure-ebay/images/tvspa4-300.jpg)
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Soooooo conflicted.....while I sell spas with stereos.....I myself don't have one. Entering a hot tub is a smooth motion that doesn't really lend itself to large amounts of prepartion, like chosing music and such. The hot tub as an entertain unit outside on the porch with a party going down then the stereo fits into the setting. Coleman's is nice because the speakers are directional, sound quality is good......MP3 device hooked up and music just keeps on playing. Keeping on rocking......
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Usually the people who speak out against the stereo option are the ones who either could not afford it or convinced themeselves that it couldn't possibly sound good. My system has Bose speakers and the sound is excellent. I agree with Han Solo, there are times when silence is best, but it's nice to have and we use it often.
Sorry, but I can afford one, but I have a $10,500 home theater system with 1500 watts pumped through 8 pairs of Klipsch speakers. There isn't a spa system out there that can even come close to my system.
Matt
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To be honest, I couldn't afford the spa audio system...We ended up with a tub that was about $2500.00 over our budget as it was. When my husband heard the audio in the store, he fell in love...so I knew it was important to figure out how to afford it! And again, I can honestly say, he loves it so much...I am glad we got it.
I guess if you imagine yourself soaking...on your deck, on your porch..where ever your tub will dwell..and music is part of the total spa experience for you, then you will not find it is a waste of money. If you aren't concerned about trying to hear above the sound of the jets, mounted outdoor speakers would work fine. Or you may find that the sound of nature or even the sound of the jets themselves are what does it for you.(sometimes I think the jet sounds are like white noise...it blocks out everything else).
I am just very impressed with the quality of the sound (and it is driven by an inexpensive indoor system) and how it comes through the spa shell without being affected by the noise of the jets.
If you are test soaking, why not just try one with a sound system..
I am sure that if we didn't experience it when we were wet testing, we would never have seriously considered the extra $1000!
Good luck ;)
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Sorry, but I can afford one, but I have a $10,500 home theater system with 1500 watts pumped through 8 pairs of Klipsch speakers. There isn't a spa system out there that can even come close to my system.
Matt
Wow, impressive, but irrellevant. We're discussing Spa steroes. Guess your spa doesn't have one.
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This Topic is obviously a matter of Opinion. Affordability is irrelevant. Some people prefer the stereo build in some don't. It all comes down to conveniece in the end. Lets not turn this post into a pissing contest please! Thanks.
Rob
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Look 2 posts up, affordability IS an issue, albeit, not the only issue.
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Sorry, but I can afford one, but I have a $10,500 home theater system with 1500 watts pumped through 8 pairs of Klipsch speakers. There isn't a spa system out there that can even come close to my system.
Matt
Geez, whata surprise. A $10,500 home theater system sounding better than a spa stereo. Whoda thought??
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Got the SpAudio in my 2005 HS Grandee. I have had nothing but trouble with it. It was a large waste of money. I would have been far better to hook up some outdoor rated speakers and just wired it into the house system.
BearBath
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I'm going to purchase a Bose outdoor system for around $500. I've been told this system is really good. :)
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Overpriced? Absolutely. Worth the $$? I spent it and am glad I did. If you are looking to rock the neighborhood, then there is no question you can buy more system for less money than a SpaAudio system costs. Bottom line is it is a personal preference.
Jr
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re: "Got the SpAudio in my 2005 HS Grandee. I have had nothing but trouble with it"
Thats exactly my fear.....after a few years....is it all going to work?
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My spa's stereo system has worked flawlessly for going on 4 years.
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re: My spa's stereo system has worked flawlessly for going on 4 years.
Two hot tub dealers here in Dallas told me they have alot of repair calls involving spa stereo systems....usually speakers are the problem. The guy at the Sundance dealer said he even tries to steer customers away from them if they ask about it. Glad you got a good one thus far. And I bet the spa stereo options will keep getting better with new technology.
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Even if my stereo goes south, I don't have a problem with trying to fix it myself. The speakers seem to be of good quality- the only "weak" point may be the pop up mechanisms. But so far all is well.
As far as quality goes, the radio unit Sundance uses is a really good quality marine grade unit- waterproof face plate. I've seen that exact unit sold by Overtons (a very large marine supply company) for about $400- so I'm really not worried about that.
Have not discovered the speaker maker yet- found the radio/CD unit by accident.
I suspect that like much else, quality and reliability varies greatly by spa brand or even model.
Sundance uses other types of components on the Sweetwater models. My buddy got a Bahia a couple years ago, and his speakers are built into the corner pillows.
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Brewman....glad to hear because I would really like to have
one but was kind of scared it could be a source of trouble.
I would think it is super convenient to have it right there at your
fingertips all built-in.
I wonder if the tub makers will soon have a built-in plug so that you
can plug an I-pod into the built-in speakers like many of the car makers
have now done?
Have you heard much about the built in TV's?
They kind of scared me too.
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Sounds like the retailers would rather not have to bother supporting stereo units and I don't blame'em. That's enough reason for me no matter what Repeat Offender contends.....
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Got the SpAudio in my 2005 HS Grandee. I have had nothing but trouble with it. It was a large waste of money. I would have been far better to hook up some outdoor rated speakers and just wired it into the house system.
BearBath
Bear:
What kind of trouble have you had? Is it the original system or the SpAudio II. I ask because the only area that I anticipate trouble with is the IQ2020 remote. Mine has been very tempermental. I tried to find out if a Balboa Dolphin remote would work with a HS, but everyone so far thinks not.
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From a dealers standpoint I would have to agree, just another nuisance item and not something they have expertise in. The topic question was asked I believe, from a consumer standpoint and that is what I based my response on. Definitely not a necessity but nice to have.
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Brewman....glad to hear because I would really like to have
one but was kind of scared it could be a source of trouble.
I would think it is super convenient to have it right there at your
fingertips all built-in.
I wonder if the tub makers will soon have a built-in plug so that you
can plug an I-pod into the built-in speakers like many of the car makers
have now done?
Have you heard much about the built in TV's?
They kind of scared me too.
Wouldn't surprise me at all if there were already ipod plug in's either out there or in the works- but I'm WAY behind the curve on Ipod's and don't know all that much about them.
The stereo is very convenient- which was my main reason for getting it. At the time of purchase I did think the cost was a bit excessive, but that feeling is long gone.
So far I don't consider it a waste of money.
I'd personally shy away from spa TV's.
They were only just starting to appear when I went spa shopping- I know Sundance didn't offer them at the time- maybe they do now. Regardless, I think I'd have passed on that if there were available. I've got enough TV's inside the house!
But to those who want that type of thing- I say it's your spa- go for it.
Same for pretty much all other "Options". Do what makes you happy.
You forget about the cost of this stuff very shortly after you make the purchase. It's not like the money I spent on the spa stereo sent me to the poorhouse, or anything. What's the point of it all if you can't splurge on goodies every so often?
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Rich does your remote control your sound system inside of your house? I am not familiar with HS system, but the dolphin relies on a kind of signal reflector device to send the IR signal from your system to the remote, I believe as an RF signal (help Mendo...isn't that right?). If that is your problem, I may be able to help.
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re:"I'm WAY behind the curve on Ipod's and don't know all that much about them"
Brewman....so was I until Christmas.
Being a huge music fan I can't believe in less than a month of
Ipod ownership I can already see the day when I am giving
away all of my CD's.
I think buying music from a retail "brick and mortar" store will
for the most part be a thing of the past in the not too distant
future.
It is incredible the amount of music you can carry around
in this tiny unit!
This tiny little new Ipod holds like 4000 songs!
You can take it in your car, take it jogging, take it on a plane,
plug it into your home speakers, take it in a hotel room...
can you imagine trying to lug that many CD's around everywhere?
The sound is crystal clear.....no scratches or lost jewel cases like with CD's.
I am already just in two weeks a huge fan of the Ipod!
(http://online.wsj.com/public/resources/images/ipod_nano09072005144257.jpg)
(http://store.apple.com/Catalog/US/Images/lm_bosesd_b_altview.jpg)
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My son got himself one of those not too long ago- he sure likes it. We even got him an ipod docking alarm clock for Christmas- his idea, I didn't know such a thing existed.
Out of curiousity, how much do songs cost?
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re:"I'm WAY behind the curve on Ipod's and don't know all that much about them"
Brewman....so was I until Christmas.
Being a huge music fan I can't believe in less than a month of
Ipod ownership I can already see the day when I am giving
away all of my CD's.
I think buying music from a retail "brick and mortar" store will
for the most part be a thing of the past in the not too distant
future.
It is incredible the amount of music you can carry around
in this tiny unit!
This tiny little new Ipod holds like 4000 songs!
You can take it in your car, take it jogging, take it on a plane,
plug it into your home speakers, take it in a hotel room...
can you imagine trying to lug that many CD's around everywhere?
The sound is crystal clear.....no scratches or lost jewel cases like with CD's.
I am already just in two weeks a huge fan of the Ipod!
(http://online.wsj.com/public/resources/images/ipod_nano09072005144257.jpg)
(http://store.apple.com/Catalog/US/Images/lm_bosesd_b_altview.jpg)
If you think it sounds good with the headphones, treat yourself to one of those Bose docking stations in the picture...amazing sound.
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Brewman.....the songs cost 99 cents each from I-tunes.
So actually it is about the same as buying an album as far as
cost and this way it lasts forever....never gets scratched...ect.....
I suppose it is actually less money because there are songs
on an album you may decide to not purchase.
I am not that computer literate but I already love the thing.
Those alarm clock and different docking stations are awesome
and not that expensive.
I have a small little docking station that allowed me to play
my new I-pod over my home stereo Bose speakers for my
New Year's Eve Party.......it was great.
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re:"I'm WAY behind the curve on Ipod's and don't know all that much about them"
Brewman....so was I until Christmas.
Being a huge music fan I can't believe in less than a month of
Ipod ownership I can already see the day when I am giving
away all of my CD's.
I think buying music from a retail "brick and mortar" store will
for the most part be a thing of the past in the not too distant
future.
It is incredible the amount of music you can carry around
in this tiny unit!
This tiny little new Ipod holds like 4000 songs!
You can take it in your car, take it jogging, take it on a plane,
plug it into your home speakers, take it in a hotel room...
can you imagine trying to lug that many CD's around everywhere?
The sound is crystal clear.....no scratches or lost jewel cases like with CD's.
I am already just in two weeks a huge fan of the Ipod!
(http://online.wsj.com/public/resources/images/ipod_nano09072005144257.jpg)
(http://store.apple.com/Catalog/US/Images/lm_bosesd_b_altview.jpg)
I am one of the loosers who still hasn't gotten on the IPOD bandwagon yet. :-?
I don't care too much for music when driving...I'm more a news/talk radio guy and at home, I like picking out certain music for specific occasions. (load up the CD player with 5 discs of music that fit the occasion and hit shuffle).
How are the ipods for finding, and selecting certain music? I was told that on the Nano you had no control...it was 100% random. Do some ipods allow me to automaticly randomly play and shuffle specific selections? My poker club music is differnt than my backyard bar-b-que, as it's differnt than my formal dinner party music.....???? I;d like to keep my Ozzy seperate from my Pachabel. ie: I'd like to have a "Sub librabriaes that hold maybe 100 songs that I could quickly say "Shuffle and play these 100 only". Then the next night be able to do it with another group of songs.
It would be great to have my whole music library in such a small package, and I really like the idea of buying just the songs I want. - although I am torn about this, many of my favorit songs are lesser know songs that I never would have heard off, unless they were sandwich between other songs on a cd.....
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I am one of the loosers who still hasn't gotten on the IPOD bandwagon yet. :-?
I don't care too much for music when driving...I'm more a news/talk radio guy and at home, I like picking out certain music for specific occasions. (load up the CD player with 5 discs of music that fit the occasion and hit shuffle).
How are the ipods for finding, and selecting certain music? I was told that on the Nano you had no control...it was 100% random. Do some ipods allow me to automaticly randomly play and shuffle specific selections? My poker club music is differnt than my backyard bar-b-que, as it's differnt than my formal dinner party music.....????
It would be great to have my whole music library in such a small package, and I really like the idea of buying just the songs I want. - although I am torn about this, many of my favorit songs are lesser know songs that I never would have heard off, unless they were sandwich between other songs on a cd.....
I bought my daughter one for christmas, after playing with hers went and got my own. You have a main music library in Itunes, from there you can create folders or playlists and drag/drop songs from the library to the folders. I have one for running, one for drinking, accoustical, etc...
They are very easy, I'm not much of a computer person (still haven't figured out how to secure my wireless network) but I found the Ipod easy to manage.
I do believe if you press shuffle, it does so from the main music library though, not a specific folder.
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If you gotta ask....you can't afford it......God Bless America and GO GATORS
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Drewstar,
The Nano is controllable just like the full size I-pod, it's the Shuffle model that is random.
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There are many different brands of MP3 players out there and right now we have Apple (I pod shuffle), Sony, Creative Labs Muvo and Sansa from sanDisk...So from experience, I will say pick ONE and stick with it because the software is, for the most part, proprietary. For example all the music that I bought from Sony's Sonic Stage will not download to the Sansa, Ipod or Muvos...I can copy the music on discs but the information will not follow, so you have to enter all the info yourself.
I picked the Sansa units for my kids because they also have a video option AND they have an FM tuner with a recorder. I can't tell you how many times my son has said..I wish I could tape that when a song he didn't know came on the radio..So essentially that music is free and so far the FM is clear and crisp as long as they are not in the car. They have loaded video clips from digital cameras and also put favorite photos on the units. The Sansa also have expansion capability and it comes bundled with Rhapsody which, so far, has been the most all around compatable service. Ipods with the same capabilities were much more expensive..Circuit City and Best Buys have good prices on the Sansa units.
The Creative Labs Muvo units are inexpensive (entry level) and have the capability to display lyrics (although I haven't got that worked out yet).
I got them for my sister's kids for Christmas and for younger kids they are virtually indestructable and easy to manage.
This is the way to go but like I said...pick just brand one per family!
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I have the nano, but when I select "shuffle" from the menu, it shuffles the entire library, I cannot select a particular playist.
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Drew Check it out...but check out the others too.
As far as Bang for the Buck, I think these are the way to go...
http://www.sandisk.com/Products/Catalog(1166)-SanDisk_Sansa_e200_Series_MP3_Players.aspx
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I have XM Radio. We also listen to news/talk on XM. When we are in the spa, we just set the XM to the FM receiver mode like you would in the car and it works great right through the spa radio.
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Rich does your remote control your sound system inside of your house? I am not familiar with HS system, but the dolphin relies on a kind of signal reflector device to send the IR signal from your system to the remote, I believe as an RF signal (help Mendo...isn't that right?). If that is your problem, I may be able to help.
Bonibelle:
The HS IQ2020 controls the tub (lights, jets etc) and also controls the built in stereo (SpAudio) system. I believe it transmits a signal (sometimes!) to a receiving unit that is in the pump compartment and wired to the spa control board. Since the receiving unit is out of line-of-sight, I believe it communicates with both the tub and the stereo by RF (radio frequency) waves. Most in home systems use IR (infra-red) and the remote must be in line of sight of the equipment.
I understand the advantage of the Dolphin is that it transmits in both IR and RF. But so far, I'm hearing that it can't communicate with the Hot Spring system. :'(
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We bought a floor model (HS Grandee) that had the stereo built in. Then someone sold that tub to another customer. So they sent us a brand new tub with the stereo for the same price as the floor model. We do not use it that often....maybe 1/3rd of time or less, but it is nice to have. Especially when we have people over and its a more party like atmosphere.
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Rich, maybe Mendo will clarify all of this but the Dolphin works with a command center unit that changes the IR to an RF and by putting that unit infront of your home system, the RF is "projected" in the opposite direction of your home system. In my case, my CD and receiver are in a room about 11 feet from my tub. I put the control in front of my sound system and it projects the RF signal. The only problem is that I have never been able to get the signal to project all the way to my tub...I was in Walmart in the "junk" isle and found a similar contraption made by RCA that will extend the remote signal for any type of remote, only it had a second receiver unit. Using that, instead of the Marquis command center, I am able to get the Dolphin to work perfectly. I think that second receiver must boost the signal. Ideally, you shouldnt have to do all of those manipulations to make the Dolphin work...
I know that the Dolphin has the capability to "learn" different functions. For example, I was able to train it to do everything that my CD remoted did. I am wondering if it could have the same capability in your tub. You would pair it with the remote that you now have and it would receive the signal and you would assign it to a function...kind of like the Home link garage door opening systems. But that would mean that the Dolphin labeling wouldn't be consistant with the functions in your tub. The Dolphin is labeled for lights, jets etc.
I am also wondering if your whole problem could be resolved with the same type of RCA thing that I am using. I think there are so many devices that use RF and IR that they cause grief to each other.
Doesn't it really tick you off when something only works intermittantly? Because you know it CAN work, it is just making it be dependable that is so hard. I will see if I can find that RCA contraption on line. ;)
You could also try to contact Balboa but I talked to a tech person there and I may as well have talked to Jethro Bodine of the Beverly Hillbillies
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Bonibelle:
I think you may be talking about a "repeater" which would extend the range of the signal, but I'm not sure this would help me. My problem seems to involve the remote and the receiving unit staying in sync with each other. (What kind of tub do you have, and did it come standard with the Dolphin remote?)
It's funny but Balboa must have Jethro doing the email, too. I had the same experience when I attempted to communicate with a Balboa tech by email. After making it sound like it could work, he emailed back and just said "It won't work". No details or anything.
I am no electronics expert, but I think the problem may be that the HS remote works through a series of menus and sub-menus to get to the command you want. This may be the root of the problem with the tub interpreting a learned HS command sent by the Dolphin remote, since the signal is not sent at the sub-menu level it would be with the HS remote. (This is pure speculation on my part since the Balboa guy was less than forthcoming with me as to why he said it would not work).
I just wish HS had been a little more intuitive about how they designed their remote. The remote only has three (3) buttons: Plus, Minus and Mode. You have to use these buttons to navigate through menus and sub-menus on the remote to get to the command you want. Changing a track on the CD is a real pain. I think that the guy who designed this remote should have to use 3 button remotes on everything for the rest of his life.
Plus, I am very uneasy about the long-term reliability of the remote itself as I am now on my third one in the month and a half I have owned the tub. Not very reassuring, I'll tell you!
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Why are you on the third one? Do they work and then fail? My little remote that controls the jets and lights failed, .there were several on here that had the same problem..but we figured out that we shouldn't have left them inside of the tub when we weren't using them. The bad thing is that since I take mine in the house now, I forget to bring it back into the tub... :( Have you had any feedback from anyone else on here about experiences with the same remote that you have?
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Why are you on the third one? Do they work and then fail? My little remote that controls the jets and lights failed, .there were several on here that had the same problem..but we figured out that we shouldn't have left them inside of the tub when we weren't using them. The bad thing is that since I take mine in the house now, I forget to bring it back into the tub... :( Have you had any feedback from anyone else on here about experiences with the same remote that you have?
The first two just died and would not re-sync with the tub. This third one has been working with some erratic behavior. Since the warranty is only one year and the replacement cost is about $400.00, I really want to find an alternative remote that works with a Hot Spring.
I take mine inside also. I have a basket I keep by the door which holds the remote, a bottle of dichlor, cd's for the stereo and whatever else I need when I'm out there. (I just don't let anyone see me carrying a little straw basket to the tub when I go) :)
What brand of tub do you have?
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I have a Marquis Epic, so my stereo is inside of my house and there are transducers in the tub shell. I need to get a little shelf outside and a basket like you say...but I am usually the waitress delivering drinks to everyone...so I forget the things that I want! :(
I sure hope you get your remote figured out, Rich...I know I was determined to get the Dolphin to work...and finally gave up..until I found that RCA thing..and you are right it must be a signal repeater because it is the only way I can get the signal to the tub.
I wanted the Dolphin to work so badly because my husband and I have VERY different comfort levels for listening...he likes it cranked up and I prefer a much lower volume!
Maybe Chas or Term can get you some feedback, I am sure you can't be the only one with the problem...Have they ever checked out the pack that receives the information and controls the jets and stereo? Maybe the problem is in the controller/receiver..whatever receives the signal and initiates the action???
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I've brought the problem up a couple of times here but I haven't heard much from the dealers here or from other HS owners. Both the remote and the Spaudio are options, so I'm not sure how many people have them on their HS tubs. But since I'm on my third remote in a little over a month, I can't beleive I'm the only one with these problems.
We will see how it goes, but I sure wish I could find an alternative to this system that works on my tub. Especially after the 1 year warranty expires!
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Who makes it for Hot Springs? It isn't Balboa, right?
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Who makes it for Hot Springs? It isn't Balboa, right?
No, I don't think Balboa makes remotes for Hot Springs. (how I wish they did!) I don't know who makes the IQ2020. It may be a proprietary system made just for Hot Springs.
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Well somebody has to have an answer for you...that sound system is way to expensive to not work properly...Have you asked your dealer about the (I'm calling it a pack) contraption that relays the info to the tub functions? I know my spa monitor had a pack that receives the info from the tub and sends it to the indoor monitor ..I can also use my monitor to turn on jets, change temp, turn on lights and check temp and sanitizer status. so the functions are similar to your remote (minus the sound aspect). If they have replaced that remote several times, they need to look at something else..When I had a problem with my spa monitor that we couldn't solve, they replaced the monitor AND that pack!
Hey Term, or Chas...does Rich's tub have the whichamagig that I am talking about??..the thing that relays communications from his remote to the functions of the tub and stereo? I bet it does...
Hang in there Rich, we're going to get this right for you! ;)
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Thanks Bonibelle. Any help on this issue would be greatly appreciated. I love my new tub to death, but this is an issue that bugs me. My previous HS tub ran like a watch for over 11 years, so any early difficulties with the new one disturb me a bit.
If one of the dealers could briefly explain why the Hot Spring system can't use a universal remote like the Balboa Dolphin, that would help me understand a lot. (My dealer didn't know the answer, and rightly, said so up front)
Thanks again
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I'm not sure what to tell you about the remote. I'm not aware of any of my customers having trouble with them (I'm guessing there's only about 6 of them I have personally sold, so that isn't a lot to go on, granted).
The one's I have had in the store have worked fine. I agree that they are not designed the way I would have wanted, but I assume they did it that way to keep it simple and reliable. Don't sound like it's too reliable, do it? :-[
I will ask someone in the know and try to find you an answer.
Terminator
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I'm not sure what to tell you about the remote. I'm not aware of any of my customers having trouble with them (I'm guessing there's only about 6 of them I have personally sold, so that isn't a lot to go on, granted).
The one's I have had in the store have worked fine. I agree that they are not designed the way I would have wanted, but I assume they did it that way to keep it simple and reliable. Don't sound like it's too reliable, do it? :-[
I will ask someone in the know and try to find you an answer.
Terminator
Any info that helps me find out about the possibilities of using a Universal remote like the Dolphin will be Greatly Appreciated. Thanks