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Title: Help, my freakin long hair is a problem
Post by: Bama on January 04, 2007, 05:04:26 am
Ladies, what do you do with long hair in the hot tub?
My hair is long past my shoulder (see photo, left) I am very tired of washing my hair multiple times per day!  I've tried putting it all up on top of my head, but the chlorine filled steam still manages to infiltrate my hair.  So, then my hair feels gunky and I have to wash it. Then, conditioner is a must, cause I can't get a comb thru that tangled mess without it.  Well, this puts hair products into the spa the next time I get in.  So, the cycle begins again.  Do you guys cover your hair with anything to protect it?  My hair stays wet more than it stays dry.  I'm going to be everynight with a towel on my pillow to help absorb the dampness from my hair.  I wake up the next day with wild hair and terry cloth bumps on my face!!!
Help!
Title: Re: Help, my freakin long hair is a problem
Post by: Brewman on January 04, 2007, 07:34:32 am
There's always the Annie Lennox look.

Title: Re: Help, my freakin long hair is a problem
Post by: Chad on January 04, 2007, 08:55:35 am
My only suggestion would be to try and soak when the FC level is low, like under 1. I too was getting a little irration on my scalp from the chlorined filled steam and this seemed to help alot. :)
Title: Re: Help, my freakin long hair is a problem
Post by: Bonibelle on January 04, 2007, 09:09:07 am
Bama, I have short hair but I hate the feel of bromine in my hair. I always wear a hat...now that it is cold, a stretch snow cap...
Could you wear a shower cap to not only hold up your hair, but to protect it from the chlorine?  Hey Maybe Doc can develop a line of designer soaking caps.... ;)
Title: Re: Help, my freakin long hair is a problem
Post by: drewstar on January 04, 2007, 09:18:31 am
Bama Darling,  I don't think it's the chlorine per se.  You're using Dichlor, and I remeber you were following a vermonters method for chems (doseing the tub at the end of the day).  Maybe do a sanity check before you go in next time and see what the Cl levels are? They should be virtually no chlorine (less than 1).  If the steam was truely chlorine "laden" you would smell it, and I'd say, your probably would be damaging much more than your hair.

My wife has shoulder leagth hair and simply pulls it back using a scrungy.
Title: Re: Help, my freakin long hair is a problem
Post by: bohms on January 04, 2007, 10:23:48 am
Bama - My hair is down to the middle of my back and I just tie it up into a bun.  We use bromine though....maybe that makes a difference?  I never have a problem with my hair and it never gets gunky even though the back of it gets a little wet when I lay my head back.  It might just get a little frizzy when it dries b/c of the steam but no worries b/c I usually go to bed after I soak.  I think you should listen to Bonibelle....a shower cap might do the trick....it's not the most attractive thing but it'll work!!
Title: Re: Help, my freakin long hair is a problem
Post by: Tatooed_Lady on January 04, 2007, 10:41:01 am
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Maybe do a sanity check before you go in next time
:o If we did sanity checks pre-tubbing around here, we'd never make it into the water!  ;D :D ;)
Worst case scenario, I'm thinking the "Aunt Jemima" bandana...if it's in a ponytail and pinned to the top of your head, this would probably work. Or you'd have neighbors asking about pancakes for breakfast.... ::)
Title: Re: Help, my freakin long hair is a problem
Post by: hottubdan on January 04, 2007, 10:44:38 am
One of the benefits of BaquaSpa is gentle on the hair.
Title: Re: Help, my freakin long hair is a problem
Post by: neocacher on January 04, 2007, 11:09:58 am
Bama,

You could always cut it!  ;D ;D ;D ;D

Neo
Title: Re: Help, my freakin long hair is a problem
Post by: tony on January 04, 2007, 12:07:13 pm
It has been said that hot tub owners should keep an ample supply of baseball caps on hand. :)
Title: Re: Help, my freakin long hair is a problem
Post by: Zep on January 04, 2007, 12:13:32 pm
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Title: Re: Help, my freakin long hair is a problem
Post by: East_TX_Spa on January 04, 2007, 12:27:38 pm
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Terminator
Title: Re: Help, my freakin long hair is a problem
Post by: vlady on January 04, 2007, 01:11:20 pm
I just tie mine up on top of my head.  I never notice a chlorine smell but I usually add chemicals after I get out.

I've got to wonder where the heck Term found a picture of a naked guy wearing talking hats.  Probably better off not knowing the answer to that. ;)
Title: Re: Help, my freakin long hair is a problem
Post by: drewstar on January 04, 2007, 01:22:42 pm
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I've got to wonder where the heck Term found a picture of a naked guy wearing talking hats.  Probably better off not knowing the answer to that. ;)


It was someone's avitar at one point...Wiskoki? Brewman? Spatech? Someones....
Title: Re: Help, my freakin long hair is a problem
Post by: East_TX_Spa on January 04, 2007, 01:43:45 pm
(http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b206/EastTexasSpa/2759941-Wide_sandy_beach_of_San_Pan.jpg)

Actually, it was a picture my boss sent me of he and his wife meeting for the first time.

Term
Title: Re: Help, my freakin long hair is a problem
Post by: anne on January 04, 2007, 03:51:52 pm
I have moderately long hair (more than 1/2 way down my back when i first got the tub, and now just beyond shoulder length) and I just put it up with a big claw clip. The back of my neck gets a little wet, but the tub has never made my hair feel weird, or smell like anything. I add chlorine after soaking, so it is probably at 0ppm with 90% of my soaks. I'd try thr bandana idea first, because a plastic shower cap might keep heat and mosture *in* that would feel itchy.
Title: Re: Help, my freakin long hair is a problem
Post by: Chad on January 04, 2007, 04:12:58 pm
 These work great for me.
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Title: Re: Help, my freakin long hair is a problem
Post by: Gomboman on January 04, 2007, 09:38:57 pm
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Ladies, what do you do with long hair in the hot tub?
My hair is long past my shoulder (see photo, left) I am very tired of washing my hair multiple times per day!  I've tried putting it all up on top of my head, but the chlorine filled steam still manages to infiltrate my hair.  So, then my hair feels gunky and I have to wash it. Then, conditioner is a must, cause I can't get a comb thru that tangled mess without it.  Well, this puts hair products into the spa the next time I get in.  So, the cycle begins again.  Do you guys cover your hair with anything to protect it?  My hair stays wet more than it stays dry.  I'm going to be everynight with a towel on my pillow to help absorb the dampness from my hair.  I wake up the next day with wild hair and terry cloth bumps on my face!!!
Help!

Bama, is that really you? I thought you cut and pasted something from the internet.  :o
Title: Re: Help, my freakin long hair is a problem
Post by: Bama on January 05, 2007, 11:00:22 am
Goboman,
That is really me and that is really my hair!  It's a swim suit ad.
Now...
my question is...is that really you?

***  As a Flight Attendant, it's not uncommon to be asked to model for a department store catalog shoot.   In Chicago, (my base) the department stores come to the airport and set up shop in an empty gate or hanger, go to the Flight Attendant Lounge and recruit!  We have to audition (strip) for a quick buck!  The photos usually appear in sale ads such as the Sunday newspaper.
Title: Re: Help, my freakin long hair is a problem
Post by: Bama on January 05, 2007, 11:03:37 am
Ok kids,

I'm wondering if I'm adding too much chemical to my spa.
So I'm NOT supposed to have a reading of any chlorine prior to getting in?  Because, I do smell chlorine prior to getting in and I do have a slight positive reading of chlorine PRIOR to getting in.  This bad?
I thought this was sanitary...no?

Title: Re: Help, my freakin long hair is a problem
Post by: Brewman on January 05, 2007, 12:07:35 pm
Depends on what your routine is.  

If you're using Vermonter's method, the idea is to add your dichlor after soaking, it'll sanizite the water, and the chlorine reading would be down really low for the next soak.
Nothing wrong with getting into the spa with some chlorine.

Maybe if you told us what your routine is- What size spa, how much dichlor you use to dose, how often, when and what you use to shock, etc......
Title: Re: Help, my freakin long hair is a problem
Post by: East_TX_Spa on January 05, 2007, 12:20:58 pm
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***  As a Flight Attendant, it's not uncommon to be asked to model for a department store catalog shoot.   In Chicago, (my base) the department stores come to the airport and set up shop in an empty gate or hanger, go to the Flight Attendant Lounge and recruit!  We have to audition (strip) for a quick buck!  The photos usually appear in sale ads such as the Sunday newspaper.

Well, by golly, fly on down to the East Texas Regional Airport and be my hydrotherapy technician for the Home Show and Boat Show coming up!  I'll pay you $10/hr, buy your food and beer, and share my cigar with you.  The pay ain't much, but you cannot beat the working conditions. ;)

(http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b206/EastTexasSpa/DSC01247.jpg)

Termy
Title: Re: Help, my freakin long hair is a problem
Post by: Bama on January 05, 2007, 12:22:37 pm
Thanks Brew,

I have 650 gal spa.
I soak at least 2 times per day.
I toss 2 Tablespoons of diclor in at the end of the day and run pumps for 10 min.
I test next day prior to soak and there is some trace of chorine and trace of free chlorine.
all other readings are ok
There is the case of bromine...
I did leave for the holidays and put in the spa frog which contains bromine.
now, did I screw up by introducing bromine to the mix?
Title: Re: Help, my freakin long hair is a problem
Post by: Bama on January 05, 2007, 12:29:34 pm
Termy,

Sounds like a deal I couldn't refuse....if I was an Intern!  :-*

Title: Re: Help, my freakin long hair is a problem
Post by: drewstar on January 05, 2007, 01:34:36 pm
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Ok kids,

I'm wondering if I'm adding too much chemical to my spa.
So I'm NOT supposed to have a reading of any chlorine prior to getting in?  Because, I do smell chlorine prior to getting in and I do have a slight positive reading of chlorine PRIOR to getting in.  This bad?
I thought this was sanitary...no?



Bama,

You really shouldn't be getting a chlorine smell. I've been told that if you do smell chlorine, you either have high levels or it's time to shock the tub.  You said you tested the tub before getting and it a slight positive reading? Is this below 2 ppm?   You toss in two tablespoons after each use? What levels are you getting 10 minutes after adding 2 tblspoons? (you want it around 5 pmm, not more than that, not less than 3 ppm).

How many times has the tub been used since the last time you shocked?
Title: Re: Help, my freakin long hair is a problem
Post by: Tatooed_Lady on January 05, 2007, 01:57:44 pm
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There is the case of bromine...
I did leave for the holidays and put in the spa frog which contains bromine.
now, did I screw up by introducing bromine to the mix?
I've been known to be wrong, but by introducing bromine, I believe you've now got a bromine sanitized tub. NOT that it's a bad thing, however if you want to get back to strictly dichlor, you'll have to drain, rinse, and refill. I've run out of bromine recently, and have just been adding dichlor every day or two...from what I understand, that "recharges" the bromine and allows it to do it's job. (time for me to just bite the bullet and buy more bromine, I think)
Best of luck, oh flight attendant. ;) my mom was one, too.
Title: Re: Help, my freakin long hair is a problem
Post by: Chad on January 05, 2007, 03:36:56 pm
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Thanks Brew,

I have 650 gal spa.
I soak at least 2 times per day.
I toss 2 Tablespoons of diclor in at the end of the day and run pumps for 10 min.
I test next day prior to soak and there is some trace of chorine and trace of free chlorine.

I'm no water expert but 2 TBS of dichlor post soak every day seems a little excessive. I would think 1 TBS should do the job of getting your water to the 3-5ppm range 20 min after dosing with a tub your size. What do you use to test with? Have you been checking the FC level 20 min after your post soak dose? What kind of dichlor do you use and what is it's % of active chlorine?
If you smell chlorine it's probably time for a shock as that's a good sign you have a high amount of chloramines(CC) present.
Title: Re: Help, my freakin long hair is a problem
Post by: galen on January 05, 2007, 04:27:53 pm
Well Bama, I don't think your doing a thing wrong. I have been doing the same exact thing and I have no problems what so ever. If you have a chemical smell prior to getting in, take a few and test what your levels are. If they are high (with the smell) then don't get in until under 3 ppm. If you have a smell and a low reading then you need to super shock. Wait until the level is down under 3 ppm then jump or dive in. It may be that you are just not getting the tub sanitized well enough and you need to super shock. As for your hair, does your water kinda fizz when you switch on the air blower? If so, then bun up your hair.
Title: Re: Help, my freakin long hair is a problem
Post by: drewstar on January 05, 2007, 04:32:55 pm
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Terminator


And this is quite possibley one of the funnest cartoons Term has ever done.   It cracks me up everytime I even think about it.

Title: Re: Help, my freakin long hair is a problem
Post by: Vinny on January 05, 2007, 06:45:52 pm
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I've been known to be wrong, but by introducing bromine, I believe you've now got a bromine sanitized tub. NOT that it's a bad thing, however if you want to get back to strictly dichlor, you'll have to drain, rinse, and refill. I've run out of bromine recently, and have just been adding dichlor every day or two...from what I understand, that "recharges" the bromine and allows it to do it's job. (time for me to just bite the bullet and buy more bromine, I think)
Best of luck, oh flight attendant. ;) my mom was one, too.

Yup, a bromine tub is a bromine tub. Apparently any bromine tries to convert the chlorine.

The chlorine smell may be from combined chlorine - I've only smelled chlorine 2 x in my spa - once with 20+ PPM chlorine and once with high combined chlorine.
Title: Re: Help, my freakin long hair is a problem
Post by: Bama on January 05, 2007, 07:12:12 pm
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I'm no water expert but 2 TBS of dichlor post soak every day seems a little excessive. I would think 1 TBS should do the job of getting your water to the 3-5ppm range 20 min after dosing with a tub your size. What do you use to test with? Have you been checking the FC level 20 min after your post soak dose? What kind of dichlor do you use and what is it's % of active chlorine?
If you smell chlorine it's probably time for a shock as that's a good sign you have a high amount of chloramines(CC) present.


I test with 6-way test strips called AQUA CHEM.  They register hardness, total chlorine, free chlorine, bromine, ph, total alkalinity, and stabilizer.
I've never done that.  Hmm?  I just get out, throw in the dichlor, set and forget it.  
Is there a reason to wait 20 minutes before checking and treating?
I use SPA TIME chlorinating granules for spas and hot tubs: active ingredient' sodium-s-triazinetrione.
When I shock, I do it every Saturday and I use the same dichlor product, however I use 3-4 Tablespoons, depending upon how long the water has been in the tub.
Are some brands of test strips and dichlor better than others?




Title: Re: Help, my freakin long hair is a problem
Post by: Bama on January 05, 2007, 07:20:48 pm
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One of the benefits of BaquaSpa is gentle on the hair.

Tell me more about BaquaSpa...
is it as easy Vermonters?
Title: Re: Help, my freakin long hair is a problem
Post by: Bama on January 05, 2007, 07:29:38 pm
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Bama,

You really shouldn't be getting a chlorine smell. I've been told that if you do smell chlorine, you either have high levels or it's time to shock the tub.  You said you tested the tub before getting and it a slight positive reading? Is this below 2 ppm?   You toss in two tablespoons after each use? What levels are you getting 10 minutes after adding 2 tblspoons? (you want it around 5 pmm, not more than that, not less than 3 ppm).

How many times has the tub been used since the last time you shocked?

Drewstar,

Confession... I have gotten lazy and I stopped testing after adding the 2 Tbl and 10 min pump run.    I'm busted, huh?
Title: Re: Help, my freakin long hair is a problem
Post by: Chad on January 06, 2007, 03:29:55 am
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Is there a reason to wait 20 minutes before checking and treating?
Yes, to make sure the chemicals you just added have enough time to get thouroughly mixed. It doesn't have to be exactly 20 some say 10 will suffice. I just think that giving it a little longer might be a little more accurate.

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I use SPA TIME chlorinating granules for spas and hot tubs: active ingredient' sodium-s-triazinetrione.

Oops, I meant available not active... :-[
Somewhere on the bottle it should say  __% available chlorine. Anywhere from 52-62%.

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Are some brands of test strips better than others?
I don't think any of them do any good besides maybe measuring high FC. Their "accuracy" just isn't as accurate as I like to be. I have used both strips and now a Taylor kit and I'm amazed at how much my readings differed. You might want to think about getting one b/c if used properly their foolproof especially when telling you when to shock. There's no guessing. To be honest I would have paid 4 x the amount I paid for it($45). It's really helped me THAT much. :)

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Are some brands of dichlor better than others?

 I try to only use brands that have 99% or higher sodium dichlor-s-triazinetrione dihydrate with only 1% inert.
The lower the % available chlorine in a product the more you will have to add to get suffice readings.


Title: Re: Help, my freakin long hair is a problem
Post by: Chad on January 06, 2007, 07:01:51 am
Bama I just learned a pretty simply formula for calculating how much dichlor to add to a tub. I posted it in the  Can treating a spa be easy thread. :)

gallons of tub x ppm x .000128 / % available chlorine in your dichlor product = amount in ozs to add.

So if your tub is 650 gallons, your dichlor is 55% available chlorine, and you want a 3 ppm post soak... this is the formula-

650 x 3 x .000128 / .55 = about .45 ozs(about 1 TBS)
Title: Re: Help, my freakin long hair is a problem
Post by: Richs100 on January 06, 2007, 07:42:14 am
This thread reminds me of a conversation I had with a friend who was describing a woman he had just met.
He said "She has beautiful, thick black hair down her back......too bad it's not up on her head."  :)
Title: Re: Help, my freakin long hair is a problem
Post by: Bama on January 06, 2007, 02:53:01 pm
Thanks so much all.  You guys have helped me to realize  I've been adding way too much dichlor.  I believe I've had to compensate for the hair conditioner going into the tub.   I cringe at the thought of cutting my hair off, but I don't know what else I might do, because all of the hair conditioner I have to use to manage my long hair finds it's way into the water.  Yes, I put my hair up, but I have a whole lot of hair and there is only so much room up there on top of my head.  Hmmm...decisions???
Title: Re: Help, my freakin long hair is a problem
Post by: Tatooed_Lady on January 06, 2007, 03:05:33 pm
twist, pin, and do-rag....just think of all those biker chicks that have the long, flowing hair that they have to keep manageable. ;) Or you might need to just change hair products....'regular' store bought brands fry my hair in a couple days....I've changed over to biolage (great clips carries it), and I use WAY less for WAY better conditioning results.
Good luck!
Title: Re: Help, my freakin long hair is a problem
Post by: anne on January 06, 2007, 04:22:55 pm
I agree that there is a huge difference in the products that you can use on your hair, and I think that even long hair CAN be manageable. I had hair down to my waist for a few years, and for hot tubs or whatever I could put it in a french braid and then wrap that on my head with clips or pins. It sounds like a lot of work, but once you get good at it, it takes about 1 minute. I use grocery store conditioner, but only Finesse or Pantene. It sounds so upity to by picky, but every other brand leaves my hair icky.
Title: Re: Help, my freakin long hair is a problem
Post by: vlady on January 07, 2007, 08:35:20 am
My hair was down to my waist until just recently when I went to shoulder length.  It is really thick so I know what you mean by having a lot of hair.  I just used to braid it before putting it on top of my head and that made it easier to manage.
Title: Re: Help, my freakin long hair is a problem
Post by: svspa on January 07, 2007, 04:16:57 pm
Bama,

Seems like it would be a shame for you to cut your hair just for the spa. Why don't you try shocking with MPS instead of dichlor. MPS should help oxidize those organic materials. I normally wouldn't recommend it but you could also use a clarifier (small doses) on a more regular basis to get that stuff out.

How about a routine something like this:

Dichlor after use, generally 0.5 teaspoon per person, but you can test this and just get your tub to between 3-5ppm after dosing. You have a big tub so you may need more. Hopefully by the next day when you are ready to use the tub again you'll be down below 1ppm.

Weekly shock with MPS. Just follow the directions for your tub size. The good thing about MPS is you don't have to reach a specific level of MPS in the tub for it to work.

I assume if you think you're getting conditioner in the tub you might be able to see a film on the water surface, kind of like an oil slick. A little clarifier along with the MPS should help get that out. Leslie's pool supply sells a product with both of these combined, I think it is called Fresh and Clear. I would only recommend this if you have a specific problem to solve though, you shouldn't normally be adding clarifier. Both MPS and clarifier will add to your TDS. You could also try a 'Dirty Duck', sponge like material that just floats in your spa and is supposed to soak up those organics.

Monthly you could replace the MPS shock with a dichlor shock, that gives you the super sanitizing effect you miss by using MPS for shock.

Hopefully you can find a chem routine that adapts to you rather than adapting your lifestyle to the tub.

We'll have to start a new national campaign 'Keep Bama Beautiful'.

Steve
Title: Re: Help, my freakin long hair is a problem
Post by: Chad on January 07, 2007, 04:21:51 pm
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How about a routine something like this:
Dichlor after use, generally 0.5 teaspoon per person, but you can test this and just get your tub to between 3-5ppm after dosing. You have a big tub so you may need more. Hopefully by the next day when you are ready to use the tub again you'll be down below 1ppm.
I already calculated about how much her post soak dose should be. ;)
Title: Re: Help, my freakin long hair is a problem
Post by: geekd on January 07, 2007, 06:26:46 pm
I also have long, thick hair (see pic at left).  I just tie it up on top of my head.

I use Nature 2, so I don't have any chlorine problems.

The hair at the base of my neck does get wet, but I just leave it tied up until it drys.

And 2 tablespoons each soak is way too much chlorine.  I shock once a week with 2 tablespoons.

My wife has long hair, too.  We get hair all over the house.  It was even worse when we had a dog.

-geekd
Title: Re: Help, my freakin long hair is a problem
Post by: Bama on January 07, 2007, 08:26:05 pm
I think if I combine all of your suggestions I can't help but get it right!!!

Tatooed-I'll tie up my hair....then you're invited for pancakes!!!

vlady-braiding my hair should help to keep it on top of my head

Anne-I'll change hair products, I use expensive salon crap that is great for my hair, but probably destroying my spa pumps.  Also, because I was using too much dichlor my hair was frying, so then what did I do....more conditioner!!!  

Why Not- I'll cut back on Dichlor.  Thx for the calculations!!

Steve-next time I purchase supplies, I pick up some MPS, yes there is a shine in my water, as well as a foam problem that I'm forever addressing.

Geeked- geez, you do have a lot of hair!!!!  YOU ROCK!!!  Tell me more about Nature 2.

Term---thanks for the cigar!

I know it seems like my hair is a big deal, but it's just that I have a routine.
My job as a Flight Attendant requires that my hair not fall forward when I lean forward.  That means either tie it back, put it up,  or have it short.  Also, it's quicker to get ready for a 4:45 lobby call when all I have to do with my hair is pull it back.  Long hair is actually easier for my job.  The weight of long hair makes it dry straight therefore, requires no blow drying...it's wash and go!  I really don't want to cut my hair off.... So thanks for all the help!
Title: Re: Help, my freakin long hair is a problem
Post by: Chad on January 07, 2007, 08:29:36 pm
Bama, is this really you? :o :-*
(http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r165/tileman_photos/Sherillinpinkbikinni-scuba.jpg)
Title: Re: Help, my freakin long hair is a problem
Post by: geekd on January 07, 2007, 11:23:42 pm
http://www.nature2.com/whatis.asp

With Nature 2 you put a cartridge containing silver in your filter, run your ozonator, and put in MPS before each soak.  Then you shock once a week with dichlor.  I actually use the HotSpring version.  They call it "Everfresh" or something.

Now, the "chlorine police" here will tell you that this isn't safe, but it's worked pretty well for me.

However, my tub is used by my wife and I only, and only 4 - 5 times a week.  On the rare occasions we have guests, I always hit it with dichlor after.

The advantage of this method is no chlorine smell or problems during the week.  MPS has it's own smell, but it's much much less so than chlorine.  So when I get out of the tub, it's like I got out of the bath - no shower needed.

Now, a proper Vermonter method, so that the chlorine level is very low when you soak, should have this same effect.  I just think Nature 2 is easier.

-geekd
Title: Re: Help, my freakin long hair is a problem
Post by: Gomboman on January 07, 2007, 11:54:02 pm
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Bama, is this really you? :o :-*
(http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r165/tileman_photos/Sherillinpinkbikinni-scuba.jpg)

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Goboman,
That is really me and that is really my hair!  It's a swim suit ad.

Title: Re: Help, my freakin long hair is a problem
Post by: gores95 on January 08, 2007, 08:37:07 am
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 It's a swim suit ad.

I don't think anyone really believed her.  Kinda like the 6% body fat I think.

I believe they call it "net exaggeration"!!!!! ;)
Title: Re: Help, my freakin long hair is a problem
Post by: MostlyLurkingGal on January 08, 2007, 08:45:50 am
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I don't think anyone really believed her.  Kinda like the 6% body fat I think.

I believe they call it "net exaggeration"!!!!! ;)
I believe her........
Title: Re: Help, my freakin long hair is a problem
Post by: drewstar on January 08, 2007, 09:43:20 am
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I believe her........


Why not?  I have no reason to doubt her. Why couldn't she be a stunning looking women who has done photo shoots for products?
Title: Re: Help, my freakin long hair is a problem
Post by: windsurfdog on January 08, 2007, 09:57:22 am
Not only do I believe her, I can't get my car to point any other way than towards Alabama.... ::)
Title: Re: Help, my freakin long hair is a problem
Post by: drewstar on January 08, 2007, 10:10:50 am
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Not only do I believe her, I can't get my car to point any other way than towards Alabama.... ::)


Ah, that's not your "car"  ;)
Title: Re: Help, my freakin long hair is a problem
Post by: svspa on January 08, 2007, 11:40:46 am
Why not,

The formula is great to know, but keep in mind that it assumes 0ppm in the tub and doesn't account for bather load. So it is always best to test under your spa's normal conditions to determine your daily dose.

That would be different for someone who normally starts out with 3ppm in their tub and has 2 people using the tub daily, versus someone who starts out with 0.5ppm and has 6 people in their tub.

Definitely good information to have as a reference though.

Steve
Title: Re: Help, my freakin long hair is a problem
Post by: Tatooed_Lady on January 08, 2007, 11:55:18 am
the slick on the top of the water is probably easiest to manage with one of those oil zorb sponges, or scum bugs or whatever....no chemicals added to the water, they just float and soak up the stuff on top...I've heard or read that clarifiers can be VERY hard on sensitive skin. I would think that it's the same with  your hair, but I've been known to be wrong 3 or 4,000,000 times before.  ;)
Title: Re: Help, my freakin long hair is a problem
Post by: Bama on January 08, 2007, 12:18:06 pm
I would hope that everyone who has posted their photo is truly of themself.  Mine is.
How weird would that be to post someone else's photo?
  However, since I am a woman I do reserve the right to lie about my age! ;)
So, you see I can not lie about WHO I am, but only how OLD I am. ;D
Title: Re: Help, my freakin long hair is a problem
Post by: bohms on January 08, 2007, 12:50:00 pm
I kinda believe that it's you Bama, but I guess I find it a little weird that you would pick that picture out to put on a forum and not a "normal, everyday" picture of yourself.   ::)

But if that is you....I'd love to have a body like that!!!!

Title: Re: Help, my freakin long hair is a problem
Post by: LtDan on January 08, 2007, 12:55:09 pm
I believe that is her normal, everyday picture. I am all for everyday wear of small bathing suits!  :) You just keep that pic right there Bama!
Title: Re: Help, my freakin long hair is a problem
Post by: bohms on January 08, 2007, 01:01:04 pm
 ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Help, my freakin long hair is a problem
Post by: Chad on January 08, 2007, 01:18:34 pm
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Why not?  I have no reason to doubt her. Why couldn't she be a stunning looking women who has done photo shoots for products?

I never said I didn't beleive her, I simply asked if it was her. :)
Title: Re: Help, my freakin long hair is a problem
Post by: Chad on January 08, 2007, 01:21:47 pm
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  Kinda like the 6% body fat I think.

I believe they call it "net exaggeration"!!!!! ;)

I think they call it  :-X :-X :-X!!!
Title: Re: Help, my freakin long hair is a problem
Post by: anne on January 08, 2007, 02:37:34 pm
I though the photos was of "Trixie" until Bama said that it was her......since it is obviously a professional shot. But how cool that your job lets you do photoshoots on the side! You certainly have the right attitude for the camera! I'd hate to be there when they say, "We'll take you, you and you......but you....not so much..."

And dont worry, anyone looking at the photo is not thinking to themselves "how old is she?"

And I am fully with you on the long hair being better for work. I have cut mine much shorter than ever before, but it must be ponytail-able or able to get put up with a claw clip, or it is just too much work.
Title: Re: Help, my freakin long hair is a problem
Post by: drewstar on January 08, 2007, 02:42:29 pm
You know, I'm a semi proffesional photographer and have contacts inside the modeling word. IF there are other attrative women out there that are interested in doing some modeling work, I could probably help you out.

I can make you a star, baby. A Star.  8-)
Title: Re: Help, my freakin long hair is a problem
Post by: Bama on January 08, 2007, 04:38:10 pm
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You know, I'm a semi proffesional photographer and have contacts inside the modeling word. IF there are other attrative women out there that are interested in doing some modeling work, I could probably help you out.

I can make you a star, baby. A Star.  8-)

Thanks Drewstar.
Funny...I see lots of stars in my line of work, and I'm not impressed and have only asked for one autograph in my life.  I've even been asked out on dates by the rich and famous.  I've had opportunies if I had wanted to take advantage of them.  But, I'm orignally from the Arkansas Ozarks...I'm a hillbilly and I like being a hillbilly!  
The modeling I have done...a swim suit (see photo)  a fur coat, and a pair of shoes.  The only reason I did those photo shoots was the fact that I had nothing else to do while I was waiting in the Chicago Flight Attendant lounge for my flight home and the sets were right there in the airport.  Effortless.  
Otherwise, I just want to do my scheduled flight line and fly home to Alabama.  
My husband is an airline pilot and time together is tricky.  I wouldn't want to take on something that causes more time apart.  But, your offer is appreciated anyway. :)
Good luck with your photography career.   If you live near an airline hub, you might go to the Flight Attendant Base Manager's Office...you'll have to call the airline and set up an appointment first.  Ask to be allowed into the Flight Attendant's Lounge to set up a table.  You will need security clearance.  Also you will need a good reason such as looking for models for a specific magazine layout, a specific store's sale catalog, etc.  Your store or magazine must be well known and the airline must be in a good mood.  LOL.  Good luck.

Title: Re: Help, my freakin long hair is a problem
Post by: Bama on January 08, 2007, 04:41:31 pm
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I though the photos was of "Trixie" until Bama said that it was her......since it is obviously a professional shot. But how cool that your job lets you do photoshoots on the side! You certainly have the right attitude for the camera! I'd hate to be there when they say, "We'll take you, you and you......but you....not so much..."

And dont worry, anyone looking at the photo is not thinking to themselves "how old is she?"

And I am fully with you on the long hair being better for work. I have cut mine much shorter than ever before, but it must be ponytail-able or able to get put up with a claw clip, or it is just too much work.[/quote

Anne,

Yes,  you know exactly what I mean when I say hair can be too short!  It it's too short you can't put it up and keep it dry!    You go girl!
Title: Re: Help, my freakin long hair is a problem
Post by: Bama on January 08, 2007, 04:48:22 pm
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I though the photos was of "Trixie" until Bama said that it was her......since it is obviously a professional shot. But how cool that your job lets you do photoshoots on the side! You certainly have the right attitude for the camera! I'd hate to be there when they say, "We'll take you, you and you......but you....not so much..."

And dont worry, anyone looking at the photo is not thinking to themselves "how old is she?"

And I am fully with you on the long hair being better for work. I have cut mine much shorter than ever before, but it must be ponytail-able or able to get put up with a claw clip, or it is just too much work.


FYI...Little known fact:

Flight Attendants are treated as sub-contractors and not hourly wage earners, therefore the company has no say so what we do on our own time.
It is gracious of them to allow an outside company to set up "shop" in a vacant gate.  However, I assure you they got paid plenty for that gate rental.  
Title: Re: Help, my freakin long hair is a problem
Post by: MostlyLurkingGal on January 08, 2007, 06:16:18 pm
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I would hope that everyone who has posted their photo is truly of themself.  Mine is.
How weird would that be to post someone else's photo?
  However, since I am a woman I do reserve the right to lie about my age! ;)
So, you see I can not lie about WHO I am, but only how OLD I am. ;D
Well now I feel bad.....That pic I put up of me, isn't really me. It is of my daughter, and now I feel terrible.  :-[
Title: Re: Help, my freakin long hair is a problem
Post by: Chad on January 08, 2007, 06:52:53 pm
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Why not,

The formula is great to know, but keep in mind that it assumes 0ppm in the tub and doesn't account for bather load. So it is always best to test under your spa's normal conditions to determine your daily dose.

You are correct sir.   :)
Most of us here use Vermonter's method, so it should relate just fine but thanks for making it clear again. :)



Title: Re: Help, my freakin long hair is a problem
Post by: svspa on January 08, 2007, 10:32:38 pm
Why Not,

Yes many of us do use Vermonter's method, myself since 2005 when I first started posting on this forum and at rhtubs forum.

 :)

Steve