Hot Tub Forum
Original => Hot Tub Forum => Topic started by: SpaMorph on December 07, 2006, 12:14:54 pm
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Arrived yesterday afternoon. Pleasantly surprised to find that it is a 2007 model. Ordered it in early-November.
Espresso and Sterling Marble.
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Congrats on the new tub!
Let's see the inside of that bad boy.
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Nice. The dak cabinet is nice.
The 07's are out?
Hmmmm those folks looking for a deal....might soon find some decent prices on left over 06's ?????
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Was anxious to have the delivery team put me through "Spa School" and show me the ins-and-outs of the tub and, most importantly, teach me the chemicals. Unfortuantely, the guys were running late and had another delivery to make, so I didn't get much in the way of "Spa School."
My salesman recommended that I use chlorine in the tub since I'm a rookie tub owner. He seemed to be under the impression that it is easier to manage than bromine.
Delivery guy filled up the tub and tested the untreated water. Perfect, according to the test strip. He put some chlorine in and a dash of Stain and Scale Defense and then was on his way.
Tub started heating around 5pm and wasn't ready at midnight, so I went on to bed. It took longer than I expected to heat up, but it was ready this morning when I woke.
Opened the cover for the first soak and noticed a yellow scum line around the shell. Soaked for about 30 minutes and tried to figure out how to work all the different knobs, jets, etc. I wiped the scum line off the shell and got out.
Salesman told me to purchase an ion purifier thing, which is not in stock at the moment, but I should be able to get it next week. This is supposed to allow me to use much less chlorine. I was told not to worry about testing the water too much; just add a teaspoon of chlorine after each soak, hit the "Clean" button, and the water should stay in pretty good shape.
After the first soak, something concerns me. I plan to use the tub on an almost daily basis, sometimes twice per day. After the first soak, I noticed that my skin is dry and itchy, and a bit sticky. Will my skin adjust or is this a sign of a bigger problem with more use?
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Dry, itcvhy and a bit sticky? I bet the tub was't cleaned well. I never heard of that. A yellow scum line? WTF?
I'd be tempted to wash the filters, and dumpt the water. This aint right.
Dont' buy the silver ion pack because you'll use less dichlor. YOU WONT.
Some folks think it improves thier water, but that's another story.
I thought all New Hotpsrings had the new self dispensing chemical doo hickey?
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Dry, itcvhy and a bit sticky? I bet the tub was't cleaned well. I never heard of that. A yellow scum line? WTF?
Yes, my skin feels like it does when I get out of a heavily chlorinated pool.
And yes, there was a heavy yellow scum line before the first soak.
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Here's the inside. Notice the BellaFontana water feature on the left. New for the Grandee in 2007.
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The AutoFresh doohickey system is an option.
Scumline is typical on first fills, at least in our area. It's just the natural contaminants in the water collecting at the surface. Wipe it of a couple of times and it should not return until next fill up.
Itching and dry skin could be either pH imbalance or excess chlorine.
The spa looks great!
Congratulations!
Terminator
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Excess chlorine? This is new fill up. Did you or they add dichlor, do you have test strips? I'd do a quick check.
Term, is this one of your tubs?
I guess yellow scum could be a local water issue....but what about sticky? what the hell do you guys do in your water supply? ::)
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uuuuummmmmmm! Bellaaaa Fontanaaaa!
(Homer Simpson)
SpaMorph: I just took delivery of an Envoy and silly as it may seem, I chose the Envoy because I really wanted the Bella Fontana. Your tub looks great with it. And your the first kid on the block to have a Grandee with one. Just like a brand new Nike style! Enjoy.
I got a simlar ring around my tub, but it took about three or four days. It was brown and kinda greasy. Baking soda made it easier to remove. My dealer said it was sediment from my well water. (Are you on Well or City?) It's been almost two weeks and the ring hasn't come back at all. So I say No Worries.
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Excess chlorine? This is new fill up. Did you or they add dichlor, do you have test strips? I'd do a quick check.
Term, is this one of your tubs?
I guess yellow scum could be a local water issue....but what about sticky? what the hell do you guys do in your water supply? ::)
All that "recycled" Shiner Boc gotta to somewhere...
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Excess chlorine? This is new fill up. Did you or they add dichlor, do you have test strips? I'd do a quick check.
Term, is this one of your tubs?
The delivery guy added the chlorine.
The tub isn't from Term's shop, although he had a hand in selling me on it.
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I got a simlar ring around my tub, but it took about three or four days. It was brown and kinda greasy. Baking soda made it easier to remove. My dealer said it was sediment from my well water. (Are you on Well or City?) It's been almost two weeks and the ring hasn't come back at all. So I say No Worries.
The yellow scum ring started appearing almost immediately. I'm on city water. As I said, I wiped it off this morning after first soak. I'll see if it returns.
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tub looks great!! Just curious why you dint hide the cable? I think that dark cabinet looks amazing.
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First off, congrats on the new tub!! Sterling marble is a great finish. I use Mr. Clean Magic Erasers to clean my tub and it works like, well.........MAGIC!!
As far as your water goes, I would recommend checking it daily just to figure out how much chlorine, etc, you need to add. I followed my dealers instructions as well and had to dump the water a month after we got the tub because it turned into a pond overnight. Our tub is only 225 gallons and we use 2 tsp of dichlor after each use. The idea of using a "standard" amount of chlorine may not work, you really have to know yourself how much you really need to add to keep the tub's water up to snuff. After a week or two you should know exactly what you need to do.
I would agree that the itching, etc, that you've described most likely has something to do with your water. Test it and find out where you're at.
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I forgot to add "nice Spa Dolly" :)
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tub looks great!! Just curious why you dint hide the cable? I think that dark cabinet looks amazing.
Any ideas on how to hide the cable? Hot Spring was the only tub manufacturer that I encountered that said that I couldn't bring the electrical up through the bottom of the tub. My contractor who built the deck wanted to run it underground and up through the pavers and right into the bottom of the tub, but HS said it would void the warranty.
Now, it runs from the box, underground along the side of the house, then up out of the ground at the edge of the deck.
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who the hell is your dealer?
I'm sorry, yellow water, sticky skin, buy the N2 stick to help reduce dichlor use, and now, electrical cables can't be run under the pad?
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You could have run the wire under the pavers and up at the front of the cabinet. Has nothing to do with warranty. Drilling into the spa anywhere might have impacted warranty.
The itching is probably pH related.
Dan
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It looks like interlocking, just pull up a section bury wire and then put bricks back in. It is a little extra work, but in my opinion it will look that much better.
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Looks like you live in a nice area and home. I'm especially envious of all the green I see at this time of year. I assume you're in the Houston area based on the fact you still have growing plants and leaves on your trees. Not the case in the Dallas according to a friend of mine who lives there.
Happy soaking and quit peeing in your spa. Maybe the yellow will then go away!
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Any ideas on how to hide a wire when the tub is on a concrete pad? I hate looking at it. My husband said he would figure something out...
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Tricky, but he could cut open a large enough hole in the concret where he wants the cable to come up, then snake the cable under the pad via pouding a pipe throught the dirt, under the concrete. Pull the cable up, connect and patch the hole.
This assumes on the side that he's feeding the cable under the pad, theres enough room to dig a section on the side to get a pipe and pound it trhough. Other wise, I think you're looking at cutting a trough in the concrete.
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Looks good, I never knew that the Hotspring base was open like that. Do you guys ever have problems with wood being in direct contact with the ground?
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Looks good, I never knew that the Hotspring base was open like that. Do you guys ever have problems with wood being in direct contact with the ground?
No problems in California. Been using pressure treated wood for 30 years now.
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Congratulations Spa morph!
Hot Springs dealers- Do all your tubs come w/o some sort of abs base? I thought all "high end spas had them standard". I guess not.
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Looks good, I never knew that the Hotspring base was open like that. Do you guys ever have problems with wood being in direct contact with the ground?
As I mentioned in an earlier post, my 15 year old Prodigy sat on a treated wood platform for 13 years. When we loaded it up to move it recently, the bottom of the tub (and the platform) was like brand new.
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Congratulations Spa morph!
Hot Springs dealers- Do all your tubs come w/o some sort of abs base? I thought all "high end spas had them standard". I guess not.
A lot of high end spas come with an abs base. Only "Super High End" come with the base like the HotSpring... ;D
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that dolly looks familiar. couldnt't live without it. Nice spa, nice placement. We're delivering our first 2007 grandee tomorrow, with light dusting of snow on the ground, and temps in the middle teens less the wind chill. Guess winter is here in one day.
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Very nice Morph. What's new for 07 besides the Bella Fountain? I'm suprised the electrican would run the cable like that. It seems like you could trip over it very easily. Congrats on the new Grandee. You're going to love it.
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Any ideas on how to hide a wire when the tub is on a concrete pad? I hate looking at it. My husband said he would figure something out...
If you could give me a description of your setup, I'd be happy to give you some ideas.
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Very nice Morph. What's new for 07 besides the Bella Fountain? I'm suprised the electrican would run the cable like that. It seems like you could trip over it very easily. Congrats on the new Grandee. You're going to love it.
That is all that is new.
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Hot Springs dealers- Do all your tubs come w/o some sort of abs base? I thought all "high end spas had them standard". I guess not.
Here's how my Sundance Optima looks -- very similar to the Hot Springs minus the exposed foam. Does Jacuzzi do it different?
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Jacuzzi uses an ABS Pan.
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I like the new color skirt,Jacuzzi/Sundance are offering that for 07.
Not sure why Hotsprings chose to go with the same siding style slats Jacuzzi has? Or why Jacuzzi/Sundace went with the new color Hotsprings has? Go fiqure.
I also keep wondering when Sundance will offer the abs pan like Jacuzzi and how long till HS has it.? I have moved enough old Sundance's and Hotsprings that are rotten to the core on the btm takes awhile but they do rot. But then we are the Pac N.W.
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Hot Springs dealers- Do all your tubs come w/o some sort of abs base? I thought all "high end spas had them standard". I guess not.
Here's how my Sundance Optima looks -- very similar to the Hot Springs minus the exposed foam. Does Jacuzzi do it different?
(http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n110/pg_rider/DSC03894Small.jpg)
Jacuzzi uses a fully enclosed ABS pan, not one of those stapled sheets of plastic like the other so called "abs based" tubs.
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SpaMorph:
I just wanna point out that my HotSpring Truck is bigger than your HotSpring Cart.
I'm just sayin'........
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Congrats! That color combination is gorgeous!
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I like the Hotspring base since you can shim the spa if needed. :)
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Any ideas on how to hide a wire when the tub is on a concrete pad? I hate looking at it. My husband said he would figure something out...
I skimmed this thread, so I apologize if I missed something, but it does seem odd that your wire is on top of the pad rather than buried.....any reason?
Anyway, when we ran the wire I chose to have it exit next to the gravel pad rather than inside it, since I was not sure what the orientation of the tub would be......it was not the best decision on my part, but it ended up not being tragic. The result was about 10-12" of flexible tubing that was exposed, and I used large rocks that match my flagstone to disguise it. Sounds odd, but it worked in my situation. Something like that would be harder with pavers, though.....You could also put potted plants along there, or even build a planter box with a "groove" to hide the wire......or steps? What is off to the left beyond what we can see in the photo?
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I'm assuming that the pavers are just laid down and that only the perimeter course is cemented. If that's the case you could easily remove enough to carefully hand trench beneath the outer course and under the paver field and break up right at the electrical inlet. It's too nice of a setting to leave that wiring exposed like that.
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I'm assuming that the pavers are just laid down and that only the perimeter course is cemented. If that's the case you could easily remove enough to carefully hand trench beneath the outer course and under the paver field and break up right at the electrical inlet. It's too nice of a setting to leave that wiring exposed like that.
I think that is the best idea, too. I was assuming that once pavers are down, you cannot easily move them. It would look so nice to have that wire disappear, since the rest of it looks great!!!!
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Congrats on your new tub! We bought a 2006 HS Grandee about 4 months ago. After looking at your tub I wish we had waited: we liked the Bella Fontana feature much better than the "Soothing Stream" feature on our tub.
We had a problem with a brown "ring" that appeared after a day or so. We were able to remove it from the tub with a sponge and baking soda. It did not reappear, and when we did our first drain and fill we did not see it again: it may have been just preservative from the manufacturing process. I don't know, but it has not reappeared.
I found your discussion of the electrical cable interesting. We had our paver patio installed by a company who had worked closely with the hot tub company for a few years: he had a template for the grandee that marked the location of the power lead. It comes up into the cabinet right at the middle of the front, under the control panel where the access panel opens up. You can see the position in this picture:
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The power feed is is the gray cable that is at the base. There was a little "notch" in the frame at the entry point. This photo was taken when the tub was installed but before the electrical hookup was complete.
I hope this helps.
Bill
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I wonder how that base holds up in wetter climates such as the pacific northwest where it rains 250 days out of the year. tub looks good tho
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I wonder how that base holds up in wetter climates such as the pacific northwest where it rains 250 days out of the year. tub looks good tho
Lot's of 20+ year Hotspring spa out there still going strong from what I hear. I believe the last layer applied to the HS base is just as permeable as an ABS shell--dealers correct me if I'm wrong. Man, I sound like a dealer. ;D
Where are you Chas? We miss you. :)