Hot Tub Forum
Original => Hot Tub Forum => Topic started by: East_TX_Spa on October 18, 2006, 06:34:43 pm
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big news to be announced....imminent....new spa release....developing....
Terminator (Loyal Informant)
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It was supposed to be released yesterday.
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You mean the new spa from HotSpring?
http://www.hotspring.com/Spa_Showroom_Hot_Tub/spa_model_aria.html
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You mean the new spa from HotSpring?
Ohhh Foul on Chas, 2 minutes blatant theft of a thread ;D
No offence to all you Hot Spring boys but that tub looks alot like a Bullfrog 451
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No offence to all you Hot Spring boys but that tub looks alot like a Bullfrog 451
No offense taken at all. Anytime you want to compliment Bullfrog it's ok with me.
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Whewww... With the beginning of this thread, I thought "Oh No and new one, did we buy too soon....?"
Yep, still would have gone with the Grandee 8-)
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blatant theft of a thread ;D
You're right. Sorry Chris.
I withdraw my posts.
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No offense taken at all. Anytime you want to compliment Bullfrog it's ok with me.
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Touche ! ;D
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Shoot, I thought this had something to do with a new arrival in Term's family!
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Shoot, I thought this had something to do with a new arrival in Term's family!
It might! Notice he's been silent since then -
We should say a prayer for their doctor...
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Footsies anyone.
Nice spa actually.
Test the sites new audio feature below.
Click "HERE"
Cool eh! ::)
Steve
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Finally, a spa with a stereo system that does not need to be installed. Looks like a sooped up Sovereign.
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You mean the new spa from HotSpring?
Ohhh Foul on Chas, 2 minutes blatant theft of a thread ;D
No offence to all you Hot Spring boys but that tub looks alot like a Bullfrog 451
Sure, they simillair, but the only simillarity I see is roughly the size, (the bull frog is smaller) and they have a lounger. Sure, you could set up the Bullfrog packs to be simillair to the Aria, but still...
Here's the new Aria:
(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j61/GodlikeMoron/aria_marble.jpg)
And here's the Bullfrog 451:
(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j61/GodlikeMoron/tb-451.jpg)
The Aria has 2 pumps (2.0 hp and 3.9 2 speed).
The 451 has a single 4.8 hp
Araia has steroe, CD 03 and water feature standard
ARai has CD s 03 standard
Aria has 325 sq ft filtration
Bullfrog 50 sq ft
Any info on what an Aria might run you $ ?
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About $10K, this is about the price of a Cameo with a Stereo. Assuming it is competing with that spa. Very surprised Hotspring went to a factory installed stereo. Must have finally realized no one wanted to spend $2k on some transducers.
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Same pump package as a Grandee that has more jets....Should be powered nicely.
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Must have finally realized no one wanted to spend $2k on some transducers.
I think so. So far, I have sold about none Spaudio II systems.
It is about the same package as the Caldera tubs have - except it has two speakers (Caldera has three) but it does have the subwoofer. And as mentioned, it is factory installed.
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big news to be announced....imminent....new spa release....developing....
Terminator (Loyal Informant)
Is Term going to drop his two cents in this thread?
He did start it after all.
The lounger looks like it is a bit of an upgrade over the Vista and Envoy with the leg jets. Is it possible they are upgrading the 2007 line to include jets in the loungers? How about throwing in some wrist jets too?
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How much $ is this tub going for again????
Not trying to be negative, and will keep comments to myself, just curious how much!
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Also new on the market this fall. The new dreaded Platinum III. Have not seen it yet.
Costco sold the Platinum II all last year, rumors are they will sell the Platinum III soon.
(http://www.platinumhottubs.com//images/platinumllltublgview.gif)
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Platinum III
Jets: 78 Jets (65 Chrome / 2 Plastic Water / 10 Plastic Air / 1 Waterfall)
Pumps: 2 High Pressure Pumps
Filtration Pump: 24 Hour Crystal-Clear Filtration w/100 Sq Foot System
Controls: Electronic Balboa M-7 Control System
Electrical Ratings: 240 Volt / 48 Amp / 60 Amp G.F.C.I. (not included)
Heater: 240 Volt Heater 4kW
Ozone: Ultra-Pure Ozone System
Pillows: Six Comfort Design Pillows
Cover: Deluxe Cover 5" x 3" Tapered Foam Construction w/Safety Locks & Cover Lift
Extras: Waterfall, Aromatherapy & AM/FM MP3/CD Player w/Sub Woofer 2 Pop-Up Speakers
Light: LED Muti-Color Chromotherapy Lighting
Seats: 6 Adults
Construction: Shell Insulated, Foam & Foil Barrier Lining w/Full Maintenance-Free Cabinet
Warranty: 2 Year Equipment / 5 Year Structural
Gallons: 380 U.S. Gallons (Average)
Dry Weight: 1010 U.S. Lbs. / 458 kg
Filled Weight: 4178 U.S. Lbs. / 1895
Demensions: 91" x 91" 37"
Color: Sterling Silver Marble
(http://www.platinumhottubs.com//images/platinumlllsidecornerview.gif)
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The lounger looks like it is a bit of an upgrade over the Vista and Envoy with the leg jets. Is it possible they are upgrading the 2007 line to include jets in the loungers? How about throwing in some wrist jets too?
By all means, continue to offer input and suggestions. These transmissions are being monitored by Those That Sit in the Highest Seats and all correspondence is analyzed and disseminated accordingly throughout the Empire. Your voice is being heard.
I will personally have to see one in person, kick it, jump on it, and give it a test run before I can offer any sort of feedback for ya'll. I would imagine that there will probably be a few more changes to coincide with our 30th anniversary celebration.
In the mean time, an AutoFresh System is being transported to my location for installation and online review.
I have to go to a funeral now, but will hopefully return soon.
Terminator (The Mournful) :'(
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Sorryt to hear that Term. That's how I spent my day yesterday. :-[
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Sorryt to hear that Term. That's how I spent my day yesterday. :-[
Must be contagious. All I will add on that subject is people if you have moved make sure you update your driver's license and car registration. Also if your state has an organ donor option on your license consider it. Our friend will soon be getting his wife's eye.
http://www.dispatch.com/news-story.php?story=dispatch/2006/10/17/20061017-D4-05.html
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The nice thing was my brother in law, (the funeral was for his mother), after the funeral and all the events called me up and asked if he and my sister could come on over and sit in the tub and relax and take a breather. I was more than happy to let them take a nice long soak, enjoy a bit of wine and take a breather and let the tub help them decompress and get a bit of thier sanity back after such an emotianal few days.
After a few glasses of wine and nice long soak, the stress they had been under for the past few days melted away. My brother in law looked a lot more relaxed. You could see the change in his face.
I was glad I could help them out in such a neat way. :)
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Will this one end up on the scrap pile after 2 years like the Accolade?
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Will this one end up on the scrap pile after 2 years like the Accolade?
Only time will tell.
What's pretty amazing about the HotSpring lineup of spas is that there is very little difference percentage wise for each model's number of units sold. The Accolade was the exception. Jetsetter, Prodigy, Sovereign, Vanguard, Envoy, Vista, Grandee are all relatively close, at least that was the information transmitted at the Palm Springs gathering back in January. Whereas most spa companies seem to have a couple of big sellers and a few dogs, HS has a pretty good even spread.
Now, here in East Texas, I sell a lot of Envoys. About half the spas I sell are Envoys. I also sell quite a few Sovereigns and Jetsetters and Vistas and Prodigies. I sell very few Grandees and Vanguards, spas that many folks on this forum own and are very popular nationwide. I'm guessing because these spas are located in the prime spots in my somewhat small showroom and I've considered moving things around a bit to see if it makes any difference. But I'm of the mindset that if it ain't broke, don't fix it.
Terminator
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That's interesting. A couple years back, 32% I sold was Bengals 27% Grandees and then the next was Sovereign at 12% and then small % of rest. Things must have changed.
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Geez....you're making me feel bad that I bought an Accolade. I like it. Amm I missing something?
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You're not missing anything. You got the hot tub that was best for you. You use it, you enjoy it. You should feel special because it was the perfect fit for so little of the population.
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Now I'm curious, what does an Accolade look like?
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I'm ok with the Accolade not fitting the majority of the population. If you believe the news the majority of the population is overweight with a fat posterior and needs a bigger tub. I thought maybe there was some mechanical issue.
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The Accolade was a nice spa. The 2 people I sold them to really love them. I liked the one I had at the store and used it often, but most people want the MotoMassage, so I sell a lot of Envoys. Just sold another one about 5 minutes ago. :D
Terminator
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Now I'm curious, what does an Accolade look like?
I think "what did an accolade look like" might be more appropriate, unless you are buying used or perhaps the last few sitting on dealers floor somewhere. No longer an option on the Hot Springs web site.
(http://www.hotspring.com/Spa_Showroom_Hot_Tub/jpgs/accolade_marble.jpg)
http://www.hotspring.com/Spa_Showroom_Hot_Tub/spa_model_accolade.html#top
Don't know if the link will still work.
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Great looking spa. I really like the vertical siding. I wonder if that will be the standard for HS in the future for all their models?
(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d25/Gomboman/aria.jpg)
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About $10K, this is about the price of a Cameo with a Stereo. Assuming it is competing with that spa. Very surprised Hotspring went to a factory installed stereo. Must have finally realized no one wanted to spend $2k on some transducers.
Surely this spa can't be $10K. Am I the only one who thinks it's overpriced? Don't get me wrong it is a Hotspring and has alot of features, but $10K for a non-8ft spa that seats 4. Noway.
Tileman
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Platinum III
Jets: 78 Jets (65 Chrome / 2 Plastic Water / 10 Plastic Air / 1 Waterfall)
Pumps: 2 High Pressure Pumps
Filtration Pump: 24 Hour Crystal-Clear Filtration w/100 Sq Foot System
Controls: Electronic Balboa M-7 Control System
Electrical Ratings: 240 Volt / 48 Amp / 60 Amp G.F.C.I. (not included)
Heater: 240 Volt Heater 4kW
Ozone: Ultra-Pure Ozone System
Pillows: Six Comfort Design Pillows
Cover: Deluxe Cover 5" x 3" Tapered Foam Construction w/Safety Locks & Cover Lift
Extras: Waterfall, Aromatherapy & AM/FM MP3/CD Player w/Sub Woofer 2 Pop-Up Speakers
Light: LED Muti-Color Chromotherapy Lighting
Seats: 6 Adults
Construction: Shell Insulated, Foam & Foil Barrier Lining w/Full Maintenance-Free Cabinet
Warranty: 2 Year Equipment / 5 Year Structural
Gallons: 380 U.S. Gallons (Average)
Dry Weight: 1010 U.S. Lbs. / 458 kg
Filled Weight: 4178 U.S. Lbs. / 1895
Demensions: 91" x 91" 37"
Color: Sterling Silver Marble
(http://www.platinumhottubs.com//images/platinumlllsidecornerview.gif)
78 jets ;D ;D ;D What a joke.
Tileman
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Geez....you're making me feel bad that I bought an Accolade. I like it. Amm I missing something?
Yes - bottom suctions.
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$10K for a non-8ft spa that seats 4. Noway. Tileman
It will accomodate up to thirty five people. Unless some of them want to sit down...
Or, it will accomodate one man and six lovely ladies.
Or, it will accomodate ten people, in two layers of five each.
Actually, it will fit five with no problem. Yes, it has four seats with full jet action, and one cooling bench.
That's only $2000 per person. What's the big deal?
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;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Platinum III
Jets: 78 Jets (65 Chrome / 2 Plastic Water / 10 Plastic Air / 1 Waterfall)
Pumps: 2 High Pressure Pumps
Filtration Pump: 24 Hour Crystal-Clear Filtration w/100 Sq Foot System
Controls: Electronic Balboa M-7 Control System
Electrical Ratings: 240 Volt / 48 Amp / 60 Amp G.F.C.I. (not included)
Heater: 240 Volt Heater 4kW
Ozone: Ultra-Pure Ozone System
Pillows: Six Comfort Design Pillows
Cover: Deluxe Cover 5" x 3" Tapered Foam Construction w/Safety Locks & Cover Lift
Extras: Waterfall, Aromatherapy & AM/FM MP3/CD Player w/Sub Woofer 2 Pop-Up Speakers
Light: LED Muti-Color Chromotherapy Lighting
Seats: 6 Adults
Construction: Shell Insulated, Foam & Foil Barrier Lining w/Full Maintenance-Free Cabinet
Warranty: 2 Year Equipment / 5 Year Structural
Gallons: 380 U.S. Gallons (Average)
Dry Weight: 1010 U.S. Lbs. / 458 kg
Filled Weight: 4178 U.S. Lbs. / 1895
Demensions: 91" x 91" 37"
Color: Sterling Silver Marble
(http://www.platinumhottubs.com//images/platinumlllsidecornerview.gif)
78 jets ;D ;D ;D What a joke.
Tileman
Jealous Ha, because yours has less than half that number of Plastic jets and costs twice as much.
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No, I was laughing because it takes 3 of your jets to equal 1 of mine.
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No, I was laughing because it takes 3 of your jets to equal 1 of mine.
This tub isn't even out yet, I posted it so people could have a heads up on what is comming out later this fall. I do like lots of jets, mine doesn't have that many either. You can laugh all you want but it doesn't make 1 of your jets equal 3 of another brand. I am sure this will be a good seller for Costco. I am not in the market for a tub, happy with what I have for now.
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All the negativity? I said to my sales manager, "we should probably bring one of them Aria's in." He said," It's done and on it's way." Glad I didn't say not to get it. Oh what the hell. We'll sell it. Price is up there though.
Jeese, people will pay $12,000. for a Thermo-duster, it's not a stretch.
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The lounger looks like it is a bit of an upgrade over the Vista and Envoy with the leg jets. Is it possible they are upgrading the 2007 line to include jets in the loungers? How about throwing in some wrist jets too?
By all means, continue to offer input and suggestions. These transmissions are being monitored by Those That Sit in the Highest Seats and all correspondence is analyzed and disseminated accordingly throughout the Empire. Your voice is being heard.
I will personally have to see one in person, kick it, jump on it, and give it a test run before I can offer any sort of feedback for ya'll. I would imagine that there will probably be a few more changes to coincide with our 30th anniversary celebration.
In the mean time, an AutoFresh System is being transported to my location for installation and online review.
I have to go to a funeral now, but will hopefully return soon.
Terminator (The Mournful) :'(
Term, did you ever get a chance to kick it, jump on it, and give it a test run? I would love to hear your comments as you seem to be an experience HotSprings dealer. Thanks in advance.
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Why didn't HS add some thigh jets (for jocks with hamstring problems) to the Aria lounge? In fact, HS as well as most mfgs have very few thigh jets in any of their models. Why is this as it seems that muscle group needs as much therapy if not more than the calves? I think that is a major oversight on the part of a lot of spa companies.
Conversely, the Costco Platinum III once again looks great on paper. Actually, this is HydroSpa's Sterling Leisure line - Desire model - which has an MSRP of $9895 (quoted directly by Hydrospa) but could probably be purchased at $8k at a dealer? It will be interesting to see what Costco will sell it for, but if I heard correctly, will retail for about $5k. Now what you have to ask yourself is the difference simply dealer markup or a difference in mfg components, process, etc?.
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Why didn't HS add some thigh jets (for jocks with hamstring problems) to the Aria lounge? In fact, HS as well as most mfgs have very few thigh jets in any of their models. Why is this as it seems that muscle group needs as much therapy if not more than the calves? I think that is a major oversight on the part of a lot of spa companies.
Conversely, the Costco Platinum III once again looks great on paper. Actually, this is HydroSpa's Sterling Leisure line - Desire model - which has an MSRP of $9895 (quoted directly by Hydrospa) but could probably be purchased at $8k at a dealer? It will be interesting to see what Costco will sell it for, but if I heard correctly, will retail for about $5k. Now what you have to ask yourself is the difference simply dealer markup or a difference in mfg components, process, etc?.
It's always been many people's contention that thigh/calf jets in lounges can tend to increase your chances of floating with their upward thrust. if not for that they sound great but lounges are so tricky in the first place I'd be even more wary without a wet test. As far as calf/thigh jets on the Platinum II or III, that spa is designed to look good in a picture and/or on a stat sheet so I think they worry a bit less about a wet test.
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Term, did you ever get a chance to kick it, jump on it, and give it a test run? I would love to hear your comments as you seem to be an experience HotSprings dealer. Thanks in advance.
We actually got one in a few weeks ago on a Monday, set it on the showroom floor, Tuesday morning someone came in and looked at it, bought it, and we delivered it Wednesday. I never had the chance to fill it up, but it was a very beautiful spa.
We have sold 3 truckloads of spas the last 2 weeks and had hoped to get a couple of Arias for the showroom, but I believe all the slots are taken for existing customers. I did request an Aria for my store. If we get it, I'll hook it up and try it out.
Terminator
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Why didn't HS add some thigh jets (for jocks with hamstring problems) to the Aria lounge? In fact, HS as well as most mfgs have very few thigh jets in any of their models. Why is this as it seems that muscle group needs as much therapy if not more than the calves? I think that is a major oversight on the part of a lot of spa companies.
It's always been many people's contention that thigh/calf jets in lounges can tend to increase your chances of floating with their upward thrust. if not for that they sound great but lounges are so tricky in the first place I'd be even more wary without a wet test.
I had not thought of the floating problem, spatech. Thanks for the reminder. But don't you think a designer could come up with a slightly reclined seat that has an elevated floor section, thereby "picking" the thighs up off the bottom of the seat, and eliminating the floating problem? My Tundra has 2 thigh jets in one of the corner seats and none of my family members (including my petite wife) have any difficulties.
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Why didn't HS add some thigh jets (for jocks with hamstring problems) to the Aria lounge? In fact, HS as well as most mfgs have very few thigh jets in any of their models. Why is this as it seems that muscle group needs as much therapy if not more than the calves? I think that is a major oversight on the part of a lot of spa companies.
It's always been many people's contention that thigh/calf jets in lounges can tend to increase your chances of floating with their upward thrust. if not for that they sound great but lounges are so tricky in the first place I'd be even more wary without a wet test.
I had not thought of the floating problem, spatech. Thanks for the reminder. But don't you think a designer could come up with a slightly reclined seat that has an elevated floor section, thereby "picking" the thighs up off the bottom of the seat, and eliminating the floating problem? My Tundra has 2 thigh jets in one of the corner seats and none of my family members (including my petite wife) have any difficulties.
Could it be done. Probably with a lot of trial and error (desing, prototype, wet test, lather, rinse, repeat...). I just question whether the big box store kind of spa designs do much mroe than make a spa look good in a picture.
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I just question whether the big box store kind of spa designs do much mroe than make a spa look good in a picture.
I'll be curious as to how much Costco is going to sell it for although I heard someone mention $4999. I already called Hydrospa and they gave me a MSRP of $9795 (for their Sterling Leisure Desire model - the identical layout as that of the Platinum III) so a dealer may sell it for $8000? How could it be the same unit?
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But don't you think a designer could come up with a slightly reclined seat that has an elevated floor section, thereby "picking" the thighs up off the bottom of the seat, and eliminating the floating problem?
Wes I believe Vita spa makes a tub that has what you're talking about. It's called the Cabaret. Here's a pic.
(http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r165/tileman_photos/cabaret.jpg)
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But don't you think a designer could come up with a slightly reclined seat that has an elevated floor section, thereby "picking" the thighs up off the bottom of the seat, and eliminating the floating problem?
Wes I believe Vita spa makes a tub that has what you're talking about. It's called the Cabaret. Here's a pic.
(http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r165/tileman_photos/cabaret.jpg)
It has them but it's also not really a lounge but more of what is referred to as an "adirondeck chair" which shouldn't be as big of an issue to question relative to what I was saying but again, with a lounge I'd really want to wet test it even more if it had thigh jets because some people float in loungers as it is before you add a thrusting jet to your thighs.
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Chad, thanks for your post. That seat is exactly what I was referring to. Vita makes some interesting models with a lot of different jet configurations and styles.
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Chad, thanks for your post. That seat is exactly what I was referring to. Vita makes some interesting models with a lot of different jet configurations and styles.
Your welcome. I actually wet tested this spa and really liked that seat. I wish more manufacturers had them. If it wasn't for the dealer in my area and not getting alot of feedback on Vita spa's from this forum, I would probably be in it right now. ;)