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Original => Hot Tub Forum => Topic started by: anne on October 16, 2006, 03:15:01 pm

Title: SPIDERS!!!!!
Post by: anne on October 16, 2006, 03:15:01 pm
Spiders are trying to take over my tub. I have had a few little ones making webs in the nooks and crannies of my skirt, or under the stairs, and I just hose/blow it all off regularly to discourage them. But now I have big, nasty crunchy-squshy type spiders trying to live in the inside lip of the cover. We're not talking innocent little daddy long-legs. These guys are the big, mean, miltant looking spiders, and 2 black widows. I just eliminated the population with a whole lot of paper towels, and I am *so* not doing that again. I can deal with open abdominal wounds, blood, abscesses and kitty diarrhea, but I CANNOT handle squishing spiders, or the thought of a black widow falling into the water as I sit there relaxing and feeling a tickle on my shoulder..........ahhhh.  

I am almost considering spraying around the perimeter of the tub, but I hate insecticides, and they dont work that well for spiders anyway. I dont want to damage the wood skirt, either. Obviously I cannot put anything in/on the cover.......any ideas???????  

I have not heard anyone else with this problem, but I'm hoping that someone out there has a solution!
Title: Re: SPIDERS!!!!!
Post by: Brewman on October 16, 2006, 03:22:57 pm
Spiders will go where they will go- short of chemical intervention I'm not sure if there is anything else that can be done to dissuade them.  


 I have used the Ortho product "Home Defense Max" successfully.  Several times per season I spray where the ground contacts the foundation of our house, and in the basement where the wall and floor intersect.  
 That keeps the insects pretty much at bay.  I know you don't like using chemicals though.
Title: Re: SPIDERS!!!!!
Post by: RobRoy on October 16, 2006, 03:36:32 pm
Anne,
Try wiping the area with Lemon Pledge, that should repel the buggers.
I dont think it will affect anything with your water chemistry, and cant hurt your beautiful cedar cabinet either.
Title: Re: SPIDERS!!!!!
Post by: wesj53 on October 16, 2006, 04:22:49 pm
You live in too warm of a climate Anne! Move north. Idaho is beautiful I hear!
Title: Re: SPIDERS!!!!!
Post by: gores95 on October 16, 2006, 04:26:14 pm
How about bringing in snakes to eat the spiders?  Or bats?

Keep moving up the food chain until things even out!!!!!!!!!!!!  ;)

Marc
Title: Re: SPIDERS!!!!!
Post by: anne on October 16, 2006, 04:33:30 pm
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How about bringing in snakes to eat the spiders?  Or bats?

Keep moving up the food chain until things even out!!!!!!!!!!!!  ;)

Marc

I'd love to use the food chain, but bats eat flying insects, and snakes mostly eat small mammals and the like. There are plenty of birds around; maybe I can train them to catch spiders  :D.

I might try the lemon pledge. War is on. They have numbers, I have determination and gross-out factor to drive me.
Title: Re: SPIDERS!!!!!
Post by: NWHotTubber on October 16, 2006, 05:12:18 pm
Ours is still new, maybe too soon for spiders... but think I will try the pledge too, can't hurt to be a little proactive here!  I am with ya on the gross out factor!  I don't like spiders!  
Title: Re: SPIDERS!!!!!
Post by: IdahoGuy on October 16, 2006, 05:36:31 pm
I hear that those ultrasonic plug in devices to keep mice away work great on insects and spiders.  

....and, NO, moving to Idaho won't help.  We have spiders here too.
Title: Re: SPIDERS!!!!!
Post by: Bonibelle on October 16, 2006, 08:59:54 pm
Ann, I am wondering if your low voltage lights might actually be attracting the spiders. They love to build webs in good locations to catch flying insects.  I know I have  webs near my low voltage lights and there are also two huge toads that live around the lights for the same reason.  
I'll never forget the huge web that a spider made covering the top half of the opening of my sliding patio doors...My son was just a little guy and I would show him how the itsy bitsy spider went up the water spout...I wouldn't let my husband remove the web and we all walked carefully under it when we went outside...until the day I was in such a rush that I forgot all about itsy bitsy and ran right through the web....By the time I realized what I did...that huge spider was on my cheek crawling up my face! :o My husband still laughs about that! ;D ;D
So far I haven't noticed any around my tub, but I don't have lights near the tub itself.
Maybe if you turned off the lights, or blocked the solar collectors for a couple of days, you can tell if that is what is happening.  Good luck and I would pick birds over pesticide any day!..Maybe you need a couple of chickens!
Title: Re: SPIDERS!!!!!
Post by: anne on October 16, 2006, 10:22:53 pm
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Ann, I am wondering if your low voltage lights might actually be attracting the spiders. They love to build webs in good locations to catch flying insects.  I know I have  webs near my low voltage lights and there are also two huge toads that live around the lights for the same reason.  
I'll never forget the huge web that a spider made covering the top half of the opening of my sliding patio doors...My son was just a little guy and I would show him how the itsy bitsy spider went up the water spout...I wouldn't let my husband remove the web and we all walked carefully under it when we went outside...until the day I was in such a rush that I forgot all about itsy bitsy and ran right through the web....By the time I realized what I did...that huge spider was on my cheek crawling up my face! :o My husband still laughs about that! ;D ;D
So far I haven't noticed any around my tub, but I don't have lights near the tub itself.
Maybe if you turned off the lights, or blocked the solar collectors for a couple of days, you can tell if that is what is happening.  Good luck and I would pick birds over pesticide any day!..Maybe you need a couple of chickens!

That is a great story. :D

I dont think that light is the issue here, rather warmth. These little suckers are (well, were) tucked up along the inside edge of the cover, way under the lip, on the side of the tub away from the lights and where I enter each day. I dont know what they are eating, either, as it is definitely not a good place to catch your random bug passing by. I think they have webs on the outside somewhere where they prepare lunch and dinner, then they hop back under the cover to their bedroom web for a cozy night sleep. >:( :P
Title: Re: SPIDERS!!!!!
Post by: glastron on October 17, 2006, 12:13:18 am
eh yellow pages oughta do it, make a call
Title: Re: SPIDERS!!!!!
Post by: PotomacG on October 17, 2006, 08:29:11 am
Anne,

You might want to give this http://www.doyourownpestcontrol.com/spec/pick-cb80.htm a try.  The CB80 stuff is used in food handling areas and is made from a natural insecticide "Pyrethrins".  I keep a can of it around for occasional infestations.  

Good luck with your eight-legged freaks  :P
Title: Re: SPIDERS!!!!!
Post by: spa-ing on October 17, 2006, 12:36:55 pm
spiders? we have little green frogs that sit in the lip of the wood skirt near the water edge. I think the cover must keep that area warm and moist for them.! Maybe they can come over and eat the spiders!
Title: Re: SPIDERS!!!!!
Post by: bohms on October 17, 2006, 01:43:05 pm
Don't even tell me that.  I'm like you....throw anything at me, I can handle it, but spiders....NO WAY!!!  We are lined with woods right next to where our tub will be and I already brought the spider thing up to my husband b/c we get the big wood spiders by our house and I was thinking that they would just love the moist tub.  My husband said that they won't go near it b/c the water will be too hot....I knew he was throwing me a line of BS.......UGH!!!
Title: Re: SPIDERS!!!!!
Post by: East_TX_Spa on October 17, 2006, 01:54:47 pm
We've got all kinds of nasty spiders around these parts:

Lots of these
(http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b206/EastTexasSpa/blackwidow.jpg)

A goodly many of these
(http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b206/EastTexasSpa/Brown-recluseSpider_02-Closeup.jpg)

And every once in a while, I run across one of these
(http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b206/EastTexasSpa/tarantula.jpg)

Snakes don't bother me, rats don't bother me, but I just can not tolerate spiders.  They give me the heebiejeebies big time!

Terminator
Title: Re: SPIDERS!!!!!
Post by: Bonibelle on October 17, 2006, 03:14:02 pm
I am amazed at how many men are afraid of spiders....I must say though, I don't like your friends, Term....especially the Recluse! My bad ol football player is terrified of spiders...he would die if he knew I pulled a big ol' wolf spider out of his shower the other day!
If you leave them alone, they won't bother you...as long as they aren't hiding in your shoes!!! I don't mean they should be in or on your hot tub but they are probably looking for a nice warm place to incubate spidy eggs....who knows maybe they have the same romantic ideas that bama did!
Title: Re: SPIDERS!!!!!
Post by: NWHotTubber on October 17, 2006, 03:33:21 pm
Well I just finished being 'proactive', I sprayed the Max home defense (what I had t=in the garage).  Sprayed all around the back of the house while I was at it.   I don't want spiders to take up residence!  

I only sprayed around the base of the spa, and think I will try some lemon pledge around the top of the skirting.
Title: Re: SPIDERS!!!!!
Post by: MDG3 on October 17, 2006, 11:59:14 pm
Hi,

I read somewhere that mothballs work for mice/rats, I wonder if it works for spiders too?
Title: Re: SPIDERS!!!!!
Post by: Bonibelle on October 18, 2006, 03:58:08 pm
Mothballs do work to drive mice away, but I don't think it would be good to use in the cabinet or around your tub. They smell terrible and it is no wonder the mice hate them...I don't think they would have any effect on spiders.  Get a chicken
Title: Re: SPIDERS!!!!!
Post by: East_TX_Spa on October 18, 2006, 04:03:23 pm
Brown Recluse Spiders is bad juju:

(http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b206/EastTexasSpa/brown_recluse_spider_bite_Day10.jpg)

Termy
Title: Re: SPIDERS!!!!!
Post by: Skellman on October 18, 2006, 04:24:40 pm
That hand reminds me of my ex-girlfriends teeth!
Title: Re: SPIDERS!!!!!
Post by: Bonibelle on October 19, 2006, 09:55:30 am
Very obvioulsy a spider bite infected by Pseudomonas from a nasty hot tub! ;D
Title: Re: SPIDERS!!!!!
Post by: drewstar on October 19, 2006, 10:02:17 am
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That hand reminds me of my ex-girlfriends teeth!
I was at a low end bachelor party years ago for a friend of a freind and saw a stripper who had a simmilar feature, but it wasn't her teeth that looked that way.  :P
Title: Re: SPIDERS!!!!!
Post by: imp etc on October 19, 2006, 12:37:33 pm
Oh YICK!!

Some pix definitely need a warning attached, my breakfast almost did an encore on me, looking at that.

I pity the poor soul . . .

<shudders>
Title: Re: SPIDERS!!!!!
Post by: deputy_dog123 on October 22, 2006, 10:28:54 pm
Ortho makes a great spray that kills spiders on contact and keeps them away. I use it in my basement and around the foundation of my house on the outside as well.
Title: Re: SPIDERS!!!!!
Post by: Garyjr on October 22, 2006, 10:59:06 pm
I use mothballs around my camper year round and although it does not completely eliminate insects, I very seldom see spiders or mice.  Grant it, you will have to endure the smell of being at "grannies" for a few weeks, but to me it's a pretty fair trade off.

Jr
Title: Re: SPIDERS!!!!!
Post by: Astropin on October 23, 2006, 02:59:13 pm
We've had little tree frogs taking up residence under the skirt of the tub. They are gone now, finally had to go hibernate for the winter. I don't mind them to much...they don't appear to actually go for a swim  :) But it was not pretty the one time I flipped over half of the cover and smashed one underneath.
Title: Re: SPIDERS!!!!!
Post by: anne on October 23, 2006, 03:27:47 pm
I'd be fine with little tree frogs, as long as they were safely out of the way of smashing. I'd feel horrible.

I have not decided what to do for prevention yet, but I go on an almost daily spider hunt. No more back widows to be found, but there was another big fat angular brown one guarding an eggsac this morning in a little nook of the cover and side flap. Hosed the sac away; pretty sure mom made it safely somewhere, but I can only kill so much in one day.

As far as the lemon pledge that was recommended: I just ordered Citrabright from Doc's site, and thought that might be a better thing to try, assuming that it is the citrus component of the lemon pledge that works for repellent. Any comments? Anyone used it? Doc?

I am *this* close to either spraying myself of getting Clark "We need you!" to come on over. I hate the idea of insecticides, but I also hate the idea of a person or my dog or cat getting a black widow bite. I am afraid to touch my wood pile- good thing its not cold enough for fires.
Title: Re: SPIDERS!!!!!
Post by: drewstar on October 23, 2006, 03:44:03 pm
(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j61/GodlikeMoron/DayFlameThrowing.jpg)

Available at HomeDepot.

Should do the trick.