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Original => Hot Tub Forum => Topic started by: Zep on September 20, 2006, 10:25:37 am

Title: 79 Year Old Woman Found Dead in Hot Tub
Post by: Zep on September 20, 2006, 10:25:37 am
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Plantation woman, 79, found dead in hot tub

Staff report
September 14 2006

 
PLANTATION, FLORIDA

A Plantation man found his 79-year-old wife face down in their hot tub Wednesday evening, police said.
 
Rescue workers pronounced her dead at 6:42 p.m., Detective Philip Toman said.

Police are investigating the apparent drowning, which happened in the 9200 block of Northwest 14th Court, but said it does not appear to be suspicious, Toman said. He did not know the woman's name Wednesday night.

The county Medical Examiner's Office will do an autopsy to determine her exact cause of death.


http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/local/broward/sfl-cadultdrown14xsep14,0,1469784.story?coll=sfla-news-broward
Title: Re: 79 Year Old Woman Found Dead in Hot Tub
Post by: Altazi on September 20, 2006, 10:59:45 am
How hot was the water?  Were there any chopped vegetables floating in there with her?
Title: Re: 79 Year Old Woman Found Dead in Hot Tub
Post by: Zep on September 20, 2006, 11:23:45 am
I wonder if at that age maybe she just had a massive heart attack while sitting in the hot tub?

But I guess they said she probably drowned?

It would seem to me to be a bit hot in Florida yet to be sitting in a hot tub.

In Texas it is still too hot outside for me...but soon it will cool off.

No telling what happened.
Title: Re: 79 Year Old Woman Found Dead in Hot Tub
Post by: Altazi on September 20, 2006, 12:03:15 pm
We all go sometime.  Statistically, someone's bound to kick while tubbing.

Awww, didn't you like my sick joke????  :P
Title: Re: 79 Year Old Woman Found Dead in Hot Tub
Post by: Dr. Spa™ Ret. on September 20, 2006, 12:15:54 pm
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I wonder if at that age maybe she just had a massive heart attack while sitting in the hot tub?

But I guess they said she probably drowned?

No telling what happened.

It wouldn't even take a massive heart attack. Anything "strong" enough to cause lose of consciousness could then result in slipping beneath the water and drowning. Medications and alcohol are also things things that could cause this.

Hypothetically, even if she had a massive heart attack that would have killed her, if she drowned first, the "reported" cause of death would be drowning.
Title: Re: 79 Year Old Woman Found Dead in Hot Tub
Post by: drewstar on September 20, 2006, 12:27:02 pm
Sounds like a case for the CSI- Special  Victims Hot Tub Unit. ;)

Title: Re: 79 Year Old Woman Found Dead in Hot Tub
Post by: Zep on September 20, 2006, 12:33:23 pm
re: Anything "strong" enough to cause lose of consciousness could
then result in slipping beneath the water and drowning.


I guess that really makes the case for [size=14]never[/size] tubbing alone.
Title: Re: 79 Year Old Woman Found Dead in Hot Tub
Post by: drewstar on September 20, 2006, 12:41:17 pm
Maybe she didn't wait the recomended 30 minutes after eating and she cramped up?

My mom always warned me about that....

Title: Re: 79 Year Old Woman Found Dead in Hot Tub
Post by: shabba34 on September 20, 2006, 12:42:50 pm
That's in my territory, hope it wasn't one of my spas!  Don't need that kind of publicity. :o
Title: Re: 79 Year Old Woman Found Dead in Hot Tub
Post by: wmccall on September 20, 2006, 02:13:13 pm
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That's in my territory, hope it wasn't one of my spas!  Don't need that kind of publicity. :o

Does Jim have any Florida customers?  
Title: Re: 79 Year Old Woman Found Dead in Hot Tub
Post by: shabba34 on September 20, 2006, 02:18:35 pm
Not that I've come across.  
Title: Re: 79 Year Old Woman Found Dead in Hot Tub
Post by: Bama on September 20, 2006, 02:25:44 pm
You guys are sooooo bad!  That was my dear old grandmother that drown!
not really, but did you feel bad for a minute there?

Seriously, I read that water @ 95 degrees can increase blood pressure 35%.
If she had high blood pressure, maybe she just boiled over. (Who's bad?)
Bama
Title: Re: 79 Year Old Woman Found Dead in Hot Tub
Post by: Zep on September 20, 2006, 03:33:14 pm
re: Seriously, I read that water @ 95 degrees can increase blood pressure 35%.
If she had high blood pressure, maybe she just boiled over.


[size=14]Wow Bama....did not know that.

I need to remember that and warn visitors because if they croak in your hot tub and it can be traced back that the hot water sent em over the edge they might could sue ya![/size]

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Title: Re: 79 Year Old Woman Found Dead in Hot Tub
Post by: barshnik on September 20, 2006, 03:41:21 pm
30 years ago (in my late '20's), I had a friend die in a hot tub - he wasn't found till the next day, and was well-done.

Drugs were involved.

That said, the wife and I love the locations available to set wine glasses on our Artisian Falcon - this factor actually came up during our dry and wet testing before buying...

John F
LV, NV
Title: Re: 79 Year Old Woman Found Dead in Hot Tub
Post by: Zep on September 20, 2006, 04:13:31 pm
re: I love the locations available to set wine glasses on our Artisian Falcon -

Yep I can see why.....that is something alot of tubs companies
are not really addressing in a serious manner....
I am not familar with how Artisian solves it.

I am not crazy about the drink holders on my CalSpa or alot of other tubs
I have seen by other makers.

Lots of extremely user friendly well placed drink holders need to be standard
in all tubs!

The little so called  "drink holders" with the 1/2 inch lip just don't cut it
because they equal spillage and knockovers......so you end up placing your
drink on an edge....the top edge of the tub....and this adds almost zero
support on the drink's side and OOOOOOPS.....it spills.

We need drinkholders that can survive a hurricane!....LOL.....Just kidding
but something that actually works and is made into the tub....no after market
stuff!

All tubs need deep(no chance of knock-over) drink holders that have a drain
hole in the bottom in about 6-8 places all over the tub. Basically a koozie type
hole that is made into the tub and has a drain at the bottom....that drains to a
safe place.

I also think Spa makers should have pop-up towel holders too.....
hell if they can pop up a televsion from inside the cabinet of a tub....
why not a pop-up towel holder? Or at least make it an optional piece you
can order. Again....no after market stuff....make it into the tub frame!

Another thing I think most tub makers need is heat/pump controls that are
about the size of a shoe box top that can be as easily read in real bright
sunlight as at night.


Title: Re: 79 Year Old Woman Found Dead in Hot Tub
Post by: geekd on September 20, 2006, 06:21:34 pm
So, drain and refill, or just dichlor shock?

Title: Re: 79 Year Old Woman Found Dead in Hot Tub
Post by: Vanguard on September 20, 2006, 06:22:55 pm
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You guys are sooooo bad!  That was my dear old grandmother that drown!
not really, but did you feel bad for a minute there?

Seriously, I read that water @ 95 degrees can increase blood pressure 35%.
If she had high blood pressure, maybe she just boiled over. (Who's bad?)
Bama

Where did you read that.  I'm not going to disagree, but it doesn't make sense that water that is lower than your body temp would increase your blood pressure at all, let alone 35%.  Like I said, I won't disagree as I didn't sleep in a Holiday Inn Express last night, but I'd like to get the info on that.  Sounds strange to me.
Title: Re: 79 Year Old Woman Found Dead in Hot Tub
Post by: Bama on September 20, 2006, 06:56:58 pm
Zep,

There is a sign at our local YMCA that informed patrons of the hot water threat to people with high blood pressure.  
Title: Re: 79 Year Old Woman Found Dead in Hot Tub
Post by: kervis on September 20, 2006, 08:04:49 pm
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So, drain and refill, or just dichlor shock?



ROTFLMHO!

With all due respect, of course....but then common sense must prevail.
Title: Re: 79 Year Old Woman Found Dead in Hot Tub
Post by: drewstar on September 21, 2006, 09:09:02 am
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So, drain and refill, or just dichlor shock?



I d also recomend washing and rinsing the filters extremely well. Standard pleated filters can hold that "dead old lady" smell for months unless properly cleaned.  You may even want to replace them, otherwise every time you use the tub, you'd swear you were sitting in a nursing home. However,  I believe Hotpsprings Tri-x filters and thier no bypass filtration  sytem should be able to handle it with just a bit of clarifier.

Grahamtasia, perhaps one of your Frangrance consultants could also recomend somthing ?  I'm thinking a touch of  peach -mango or Midnight passion fragrance would really take the edge off? What do you recomend?



 ;)
Title: Re: 79 Year Old Woman Found Dead in Hot Tub
Post by: East_TX_Spa on September 21, 2006, 09:30:54 am
I've told this story before:

A few years ago, one of our customers called and said someone had died in their Sovereign.  It was an 86 year old man who had gotten in their spa while they were out of town.  He had a heart attack and died.  He sat there cooking in the spa at 102 degrees for a few days and made old dead man soup.  Of course, the HotSpring exclusive 100% No-bypass Filtration filtered out the hair, teeth, and bones so that the spas internal components were protected.

The human remains had to be removed by a hazardous materials team as it was illegal to just drain the spa and fertilize the yard with the old fella.  The owner of the spa filled it up, shocked it with chlorine, drained it, repeated the procedure, and then filled it up again and balanced the water and still uses it to this day.  I believe my boss gave him some new filters, which was a nice gesture.

On some lonely dark nights in that spa, you can hear a ghostly voice whisper in your ear "Elizabeth, I'm comin' to join ya honey....."




[size=72]BOO![/size]

Terminator
Title: Re: 79 Year Old Woman Found Dead in Hot Tub
Post by: saint_chuck on September 23, 2006, 10:40:28 am
Lucky lady in my opinion.... Better than dying in a car, hospital bed, or a JIHAD.....Eh?