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Original => Hot Tub Forum => Topic started by: Dreamerntn on September 04, 2006, 03:48:13 pm

Title: Top 3 brands
Post by: Dreamerntn on September 04, 2006, 03:48:13 pm
I have been reading for a while here. We are looking for a spa that will seat 6-8 people. I have fibromyalgia so the quality of the jets are important to me to help with the muscle aches. I have 5 teenagers and little time so prefer brands that have a track record for trouble free operation. It is very hard to know where to start with so many models.  :-/ Would anyone be so kind as to tell me the top three or 4 brands. That would at least be a starting place.   I would also appreciate it if you could tell me the 2 or three brands to stay away from. thank you  ::)   Ann
Title: Re: Top 3 brands
Post by: Reese on September 04, 2006, 04:33:22 pm
The list of top quality, relatively trouble-free spas is a lot longer than 3, and the list of brands to avoid is nearly unlimited, as anyone can build a spa in their garage.  You are better off to focus on what is available at local dealers, their reputation and commitment to customer satisfaction and service.  Then look for a model that fits your family's needs and budget.  To go search out a specific brand because somebody (likely a salesperson of that particular brand) touts it on an internet forum really won't help you sort this decision out.  Good shopping!
Title: Re: Top 3 brands
Post by: paul on September 04, 2006, 04:46:48 pm
I have the same condition.   Master brand has the strongest jets, but I ended up going with the Sundance Oltima.  The jets in 2 of 4 seats are strong enough for me (and I like it very strong), and the foot dome allows you to get yourself into AND STAY IN the perfect position for the jets to hit your trigger points.  Also brand is very high quality.  I've had no problems.  I sleep much better at night - much less waking up in the middle of the night to find a ledge or something else to press against my back to relieve the pain keeping me awake.

good luck
Title: Re: Top 3 brands
Post by: Mendocino101 on September 04, 2006, 05:01:29 pm
First I would say to that any spa that will genuinely hold 6 to 8 people and not just have 6 to 8 seating positions will probably not be a "therapy" focus spa most that I have seen that truly have the room for 16 feet and legs are more of a social spa with nice jets but not focused therapy.....there are a probably 10 or so brands that are most commonly recommended and all will serve you well with each doing a few things different than the others....
Title: Re: Top 3 brands
Post by: wmccall on September 04, 2006, 05:30:52 pm
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First I would say to that any spa that will genuinely hold 6 to 8 people and not just have 6 to 8 seating positions will probably not be a "therapy" focus spa most that I have seen that truly have the room for 16 feet and legs are more of a social spa with nice jets but not focused therapy.....there are a probably 10 or so brands that are most commonly recommended and all will serve you well with each doing a few things different than the others....

I think what you said here has merit and probably true a great deal, but not 100%  We have a tub Dynasty has always marketed as a 6 person tub, and it does seat 6 comfortably, but there is only 3 in our family.  We got open seating so we could move around and let the jets hit us where we needed it and our frequently not sitting in a particular seat.   We have two strong pumps with diverters and the ability to shut off jets as needed sending more pressure to the others.  
Title: Re: Top 3 brands
Post by: Mendocino101 on September 04, 2006, 05:54:14 pm
Bill have you had 6 adults sit comfortably in the spa....Marquis Epic as example has the largest foot well I have seen in any 8 foot spa...but I would not suggest 6 people in it....you can do it but 4 to 5 are really ideal.....Bill also just to clarify....I agree very few things are 100% thats why I used the word probably .....
Title: Re: Top 3 brands
Post by: Vinny on September 04, 2006, 07:44:12 pm
I have a serious question although it may sound goofy ...

How does one keep the water level up in a spa that 6 people sit in?

My spa can "sit" up to 7 people but at around the 4 people mark I have water spilling out all over, I can't imagine 6 or 7. My filter has a weir door and I've noticed that if the water is below a certain point, my pump(s)  (I think it may only be pump 1 since it does intake from the filter area) will surge when running and no one is in the tub.

I would think that all tubs have this problem.
Title: Re: Top 3 brands
Post by: hottub.pool_boy on September 04, 2006, 08:47:20 pm
HotSpring, TigerRiver, Sundance.

Stay away from anything you can't feel, see and touch, or you're uncomfortable with. Unless your the type to take chances.

Good Luck, let us know how you make out.
Title: Re: Top 3 brands
Post by: Vinny on September 04, 2006, 08:55:37 pm
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HotSpring, TigerRiver, Sundance.

Stay away from anything you can't feel, see and touch, or you're uncomfortable with. Unless your the type to take chances.

Good Luck, let us know how you make out.

Those are the TOP 3 highest priced spas  ::) ... Not necessarily the Top 3 best!  Let's keep it real!
Title: Re: Top 3 brands
Post by: Vanguard on September 04, 2006, 09:05:09 pm
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HotSpring, TigerRiver, Sundance.

Stay away from anything you can't feel, see and touch, or you're uncomfortable with. Unless your the type to take chances.

Good Luck, let us know how you make out.

Those are the TOP 3 highest priced spas  ::) ... Not necessarily the Top 3 best!  Let's keep it real!


I beg to differ about your price comment.   That may have been true in the past, but is no longer the case.  There are certainly others more expensive than Hot Spring and Sundance.  

To the original question:  Top 3 of what?  Sales?  Price?  Quality?

Top in sales is probably Hot Spring, Sundance and probably Cal Spas.  Yes Cal Spas sells a lot of spas.

Top in quality is subjective at best.  You will get some to agree on 3 of the top, but whatever some agree on, others will disagree.

Top in price varies widely by market since not all brands are sold in all markets.

If you want some of the best to choose from, look at the following:

Hot Spring, Sundance, Marquis, Caldera, D1, etc.  

The best thing you can do is shop all your dealers.  Find the spa and dealer you like, then wet test the spas you have narrowed down to.  Only you can decide the best spa for you.  And you can only do that by testing them.
Title: Re: Top 3 brands
Post by: geekd on September 04, 2006, 09:10:11 pm
I agree with the above.  If they won't let you wet test, then don't buy from them.

Any reputable dealer will arrange a wet test for you.

I've done a lot of research, and I don't see much difference between Caldara, Hot Spring & Sundance (by Hot Spring I mean Watkins, who also makes Tiger River).  So, go with the dealer you feel the most comfortable with, and/or the best price you can get.

I hate sleazy car-salesman type dealers.  We went with Hot Spring (2006 Grandee)  because they were the mose straight forward, honest seeming guys.  This is more about the dealer than the tub.  Here in San Diego, CA, we have dealers selling all the main brands, so we had all the choices.

The dealer you buy from is the one who will be doing any warranty service you need, (which, from my readings here, is not uncommon) plus arranging delivery, setup, and instructing you on maintenence, so a dealer you trust is important.

If you wet test a few, you will know which one you like the best.

-geekd
Title: Re: Top 3 brands
Post by: Vinny on September 04, 2006, 09:44:30 pm
Hey, I can only go with my shopping experience and HS was way more money for what you got, the dealer wouldn't even talk to me about Tiger River. Sundance seemed a little pricy for what you got also, maybe not as bad as Hot Springs but still a little too pricey for it's features. Yes, D1 Bay series is $10K+, Arctic and Artesian can be just as expensive but those are for the people who got the money and it's no object- not someone like me who was on a budget.

I laugh when people name the best tubs -  Hot Springs and Sundance. I've said this before - I don't know how my Artesian will stack up to a Hot Springs, Sundance or any other company in 5, 10 or 20 years from now but I don't think any tub is what it used to be. I've also said that these brands aren't Maytags but neither are Maytags anymore. I see a lot of "the best" names on these forums with owners having problems, some being taken care of and some not including Artesian. As far as Cal Spas, they have an impressive look to them, a lot of bang for the buck.

I'm in 100% agreement that hopefully we all find a good dealer. Even though Cal Spas has a bad reputation it sounds like Spaman took care of his customers even though it was a Cal.

Steer people away from junk and stop advertizing your brand - BE A PERSON, NOT A SALES PERSON!
Title: Re: Top 3 brands
Post by: Reese on September 04, 2006, 09:44:32 pm
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HotSpring, TigerRiver, Sundance.
C'mon you should have at least put a "Cheesy" face on that one!  By the time the rest of the dealers check in from the holiday, there should be several self-serving posts like that for Dreamer to choose from. :P  The fact is, there are a lot of good brands out there.  Anybody that can't come up with at least 8 names worthy of consideration isn't giving it much thought, and IMO there are more than that!
Title: Re: Top 3 brands
Post by: hottub.pool_boy on September 04, 2006, 09:56:07 pm
I'm entitled to my opinion. I'm sure others will offer their thoughts, and I'm glad you offered yours.
Title: Re: Top 3 brands
Post by: In Canada eh on September 04, 2006, 09:58:27 pm
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Would anyone be so kind as to tell me the top three or 4 brands.


Ann,


  I think it would be easier to name a top 10 or 12 because any ranking of a top 3 would be subjective.  Dealers will defend and pump up what they sell and owners what they purchased

Here goes IN NO PARTICULAR ORDER ;)

           Bullfrog(cause thats what we have) ;D
           Hotspring
           Caldera
           Marquis
           Artesian
           D1
           Jacuzzi
           Sundance
           Beachcomber

I left the tenth one out because I know I will be blasted with "you forgot ----------" ;)
                                                                                       "how dare you leave out ---------" ;)

Really the best hot tub is subjective to youself.  We happened to buy a Bullfrog but that was more because of the reputation of the dealer we purchased from and I think the Caldera was a close second.

Good luck in your search and remember to wet test before you buy
Title: Re: Top 3 brands
Post by: Dreamerntn on September 04, 2006, 10:40:21 pm
Thanks to all for taking the time to respond.  I appreciate it very much and learn a little more with every post. I need to find what dealers are available in Nashville I guess and go from there.  Keep the feedback coming... :D
Title: Re: Top 3 brands
Post by: Bonibelle on September 04, 2006, 10:51:43 pm
Ann, I am not a sales person!  Like you, I wanted a hot tub for therapy because I have Lyme disease. I wanted something big enough for my husband and two teenagers to be able to enjoy also.
The tub that worked for us was a Marquis Epic. It is a large tub (seating for 7), but that wasn't the real selling point for us. The Epic has excellent therapy. The lounge has jets that target thighs, calfs and feet and the deep therapy seat has fantastic therapy for back, shoulders, neck and feet. Each seat has different key features. The footwell is large enough to allow water exersize in the tub and if you have problems with joints, that is the best!  It took me a long time to convince my husband that a hot tub would make a difference for me.
Not only does he see the difference in how I feel, and what I am now able to do, but he benefits too. We both sleep so much better and seem to have more energy! the hot tub is the best stress relief ever!

Hopefully Cappycat will stop by and comment. She also has an Epic and suffers from Fibromyalgia.

Good luck and be sure to check out the Epic,  Boni
Title: Re: Top 3 brands
Post by: Bill75 on September 04, 2006, 11:20:34 pm
Ann,

We just bought a hot tub in the last month.  Our primary concerns were to help circulation (especially in the legs), and various back, knee and other joint pains.  We checked a lot of different sources, and found both good and bad reviews on almost any of the brands listed.  

Once we started looking at dealers in the area our choices became more limited.  A few of the stores seemed to to think that they were doing us a favor by selling us a spa.  Needless to say, they are still waiting for us to call back.  After we found a few dealers where we were comfortable, the key was wet testing.  We tried several of the spas, and found one that was much better than any other we had tried.  

We bought a Hot Springs Grandee.  It seats 7, but we have never had more than four in it any one time (my wife and I, and our two teenaged sons).  It has strong foot jets and a variety of other jets which we have found very useful.  We have talked to many owners of different spas and I don't think you will go wrong with any major manufacturer.  The dealer is the key, as is the wet test.  Find a tub that fits and has jets in right spots for your needs.  

Good luck on your search.

Bill
Title: Re: Top 3 brands
Post by: Vanguard on September 05, 2006, 12:42:35 pm
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Thanks to all for taking the time to respond.  I appreciate it very much and learn a little more with every post. I need to find what dealers are available in Nashville I guess and go from there.  Keep the feedback coming... :D

Hot Spring Dealer:
Atlantic Pools & Spas  
1113 Murfreesboro Road
Ste 414
Franklin, TN  37064  
615-794-5593

Caldera Dealer:
Trembley Pool & Spa
231 Hopkinsville Road
Russellville, KY  42276
270-726-6070