Hot Tub Forum
Original => Hot Tub Forum => Topic started by: aaronr on August 21, 2006, 08:01:13 pm
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I have been doing research and am wet testing wednesday. I previously bought a Caldera spa from them so I know I like the dealer and their service.
I'm looking at $6900.00 with a cover, lifter, steps, box, delivery and setup. Can I do better or is that a decent price?
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Great price. With all those extras we don't sell it for less than 8.
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Keep looking. You can get a much better tub for that kind of money.
By much better, I mean equivalent quality, with much better performance and features.
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Keep looking. You can get a much better tub for that kind of money.
By much better, I mean equivalent quality, with much better performance and features.
That doesn't answer the question.
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I'm open- what do you suggest?
Keep looking. You can get a much better tub for that kind of money.
By much better, I mean equivalent quality, with much better performance and features.
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that's a great price. Sledjunk wrote-much better tub for the money, quality, features? I'd like to compare some features and benefits if he let us in on what he knows.
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I'm also looking at the HS Vanguard for $8000.00 out the door with the same deal (lifter, steps, box, install, delivery). I'm open to thoughts on that option too.
wet test will be for both tubs side by side wednesday.
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that's a good price on the vanguard. You must be coming into our store, I've got both of those filled! Caspian-Sand/ Redwood & Vanguard-Sterling Marble/ C.Grey with covercradle. 1 inside, 1 outdoors.
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actually I'm in Indiana. So all things considered which of the 2 tubs do you prefer. Is the Vanguard worth the extra grand?
that's a good price on the vanguard. You must be coming into our store, I've got both of those filled! Caspian-Sand/ Redwood & Vanguard-Sterling Marble/ C.Grey with covercradle. 1 inside, 1 outdoors.
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if you can get past the two motojets, barrier-free seating design, 100% filtration and standard cd ozone, then you'll want the casipan. To me, the caspian is very comfortable and i like the dome of foot jets. My favorites are the spin jets( both have them), next is the motomassage. You'll test soak, so you will like one more than the other. Good luck, you won't be sorry!
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Aaron -
What other manufacturers are available in your area?
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In my area there is HS, Hot Spot, Tiger river at place#1
Jacuzzi, sundance at #2
Great lakes spas at #3
dealers are in order of comfort- #1 great, #2 skeptical, and #3 used car sales
Aaron -
What other manufacturers are available in your area?
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Aaron,
If you are happy with the Caspian and Vanguard, go for it. The Caspian is a very high quality product that will last you for years and years. It sounds to me like sled is being a bit biased - so I will be too. The Vanguard is a great product as well. I really like the two Moto seats. Both have great power, but the Caspian probably has a little more.
Hot Spring has so many accolades in the industry that you know they are doing things right. The Bengal (Caspian's little brother) won a Consumer's Digest Best Buy and the Hot Spring family is the only company to have been rated a Best Buy all 5 times CD has rated.
So, to sled's comments, I fully disagree. You can't find a better spa for the same money with more.
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I paid $6200.00 plus tax two weeks ago for my 2006 Tiger River Caspian. It came with cover, lifter, steps, cd ozone and 6 mos of chemicals with free delevery and setup.
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I paid $6200.00 plus tax two weeks ago for my 2006 Tiger River Caspian. It came with cover, lifter, steps, cd ozone and 6 mos of chemicals with free delevery and setup.
that's a 220 set up? That's the lowest price I've ever seen on that tub.
I paid $7200 for that same set up (that's with tax) . :-[ Most people I spoke to have spent $6800 - $7500.
I am very happy with my Caspain. I too looked at the Vanguard for about $8200. My wife and I were not as comfortable in the Vanguard (she was drowing! ) She was much more comfortable in the Caspian. By all means, wet test. They are both great tubs, but I think significantly different in the water thereapy.
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I paid $6200.00 plus tax two weeks ago for my 2006 Tiger River Caspian. It came with cover, lifter, steps, cd ozone and 6 mos of chemicals with free delevery and setup.
Where on Earth did you buy one that cheap??? :o
Terminator
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So, to sled's comments, I fully disagree. You can't find a better spa for the same money with more.
Bahia! Same $$, A lot more room, more power, and equal quality.(So you know...I used to sell HS and still hold them in high regard. However, the Bahia is a better value than a Caspian)
We won't even get into the fact that a RSM from Watkins admitted to me that the Caspian/Siberian shell is their knockoff of a Bahia/Optima shell.
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We won't even get into the fact that a RSM from Watkins admitted to me that the Caspian/Siberian shell is their knockoff of a Bahia/Optima shell.
Do you mean "designed to compete against" meaning it's features, look and pricing is similar or do you literally mean "knockoff" in the way Cal Spas has a spa that is a near twin to a Sundance as Spaman showed us?
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A knock-off not a blatant rip-off ;D
HS messed up when they stopped making the Siberian! Great tub IMHO
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I miss the Siberian. :(
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A knock-off not a blatant rip-off ;D
LOL, Spaman has some splaining to do.
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DING DING DING DING!
Bahia is one correct answer...
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I wet tested tonight and bought a vangaurd! :D
The Caspian was too shallow and too upright for my taste.
The vista blew me out of the seat.
The vanguard was juuuuust right! The dual moto jet sold me., so awesome! Pearl on grey. I paid $7500 plus tax ($7850 out the door) with steps and cover lifter. I'll have it Friday morning, which means tommorrow will be a long day of waiting.
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I bought it at a local pool and spa mart in NW NY. The spa was on sale for 6500.00 and I dealt in down to 6200.00. With tax I paid 6742.00. I wasnt sure at first if it was a good price but I guess from all the response it was.
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:-/ hi i have been keeping an eye on everyones posts just to see if sundance would be mentioned.
so what do i see next to sundance a #2 and the word skeptical? can you explain please as we've pretty well made up our minds on a maxxus and i'm curious why it's a skeptical product.
thanx
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:-/ hi i have been keeping an eye on everyones posts just to see if sundance would be mentioned.
so what do i see next to sundance a #2 and the word skeptical? can you explain please as we've pretty well made up our minds on a maxxus and i'm curious why it's a skeptical product.
thanx
I think the #2 & "skeptical" comment was about the dealer, not the spa.
My local (San Diego) Sundance dealer is also a "skeptical". The Hot Spring dealers were much better.
Example: When I asked how much it was, the Hot Spring guys says "$8900". The Sundance guy says "Come into my office and we'll talk". No dude, just tell me how much it is.
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so what do i see next to sundance a #2 and the word skeptical? can you explain please as we've pretty well made up our minds on a maxxus and i'm curious why it's a skeptical product.
Skeptical dealer, not skeptical product.
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So, to sled's comments, I fully disagree. You can't find a better spa for the same money with more.
Bahia! Same $$, A lot more room, more power, and equal quality.(So you know...I used to sell HS and still hold them in high regard. However, the Bahia is a better value than a Caspian)
We won't even get into the fact that a RSM from Watkins admitted to me that the Caspian/Siberian shell is their knockoff of a Bahia/Optima shell.
This is where folks trying to buy a tub need to be careful in here. While I am led to belive Sundance makes a top product, the Baha does not have "a lot more room, more power " The Caspain and the Bahai are very simillair and people would be best served to check them both out, however, making post like that is just a bit over the top and is a great example why some many folks get confused and frustrated when shopping for a tub.
Aaron Congrats on your Vanguard! I think it's a great tub and you will love it. I am glad you wet tested, as you found out, even though you were looking at two decent tubs, the wet test and how it fit you made all the diiference.
When is that puppy going ot be delivered? :)
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Tommorrow morning at 8:00 A.M.
So, to sled's comments, I fully disagree. You can't find a better spa for the same money with more.
Bahia! Same $$, A lot more room, more power, and equal quality.(So you know...I used to sell HS and still hold them in high regard. However, the Bahia is a better value than a Caspian)
We won't even get into the fact that a RSM from Watkins admitted to me that the Caspian/Siberian shell is their knockoff of a Bahia/Optima shell.
This is where folks trying to buy a tub need to be careful in here. While I am led to belive Sundance makes a top product, the Baha does not have "a lot more room, more power " The Caspain and the Bahai are very simillair and people would be best served to check them both out, however, making post like that is just a bit over the top and is a great example why some many folks get confused and frustrated when shopping for a tub.
Aaron Congrats on your Vanguard! I think it's a great tub and you will love it. I am glad you wet tested, as you found out, even though you were looking at two decent tubs, the wet test and how it fit you made all the diiference.
When is that puppy going ot be delivered? :)
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Hurray!!! Another one in HS hot water. Congratulations. You've made an educated decision.
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Tommorrow morning at 8:00 A.M.
So, to sled's comments, I fully disagree. You can't find a better spa for the same money with more.
Bahia! Same $$, A lot more room, more power, and equal quality.(So you know...I used to sell HS and still hold them in high regard. However, the Bahia is a better value than a Caspian)
We won't even get into the fact that a RSM from Watkins admitted to me that the Caspian/Siberian shell is their knockoff of a Bahia/Optima shell.
This is where folks trying to buy a tub need to be careful in here. While I am led to belive Sundance makes a top product, the Baha does not have "a lot more room, more power " The Caspain and the Bahai are very simillair and people would be best served to check them both out, however, making post like that is just a bit over the top and is a great example why some many folks get confused and frustrated when shopping for a tub.
Aaron Congrats on your Vanguard! I think it's a great tub and you will love it. I am glad you wet tested, as you found out, even though you were looking at two decent tubs, the wet test and how it fit you made all the diiference.
When is that puppy going ot be delivered? :)
Wow. That's quick. Are you all set for the electrical and pad? Are you going to be soaking by tomorrow night?
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Congratulations, that's an excellent price on the Vanguard.
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Yes, the house was a new construction so I had it all done.
There is a seimens box with a 20 and and a 30 amp double pull gfci breakers, but my dealer says they want me to use the watkins box (even though they have not actually seen the one the builder put on). Any thoughts on that?
I have the Watkins box (came with the tub) and a call into the electric guy for tonight. I have twin 50 amp breakers in the electric box inside the house,- is that too much?
Tommorrow morning at 8:00 A.M.
So, to sled's comments, I fully disagree. You can't find a better spa for the same money with more.
Bahia! Same $$, A lot more room, more power, and equal quality.(So you know...I used to sell HS and still hold them in high regard. However, the Bahia is a better value than a Caspian)
We won't even get into the fact that a RSM from Watkins admitted to me that the Caspian/Siberian shell is their knockoff of a Bahia/Optima shell.
This is where folks trying to buy a tub need to be careful in here. While I am led to belive Sundance makes a top product, the Baha does not have "a lot more room, more power " The Caspain and the Bahai are very simillair and people would be best served to check them both out, however, making post like that is just a bit over the top and is a great example why some many folks get confused and frustrated when shopping for a tub.
Aaron Congrats on your Vanguard! I think it's a great tub and you will love it. I am glad you wet tested, as you found out, even though you were looking at two decent tubs, the wet test and how it fit you made all the diiference.
When is that puppy going ot be delivered? :)
Wow. That's quick. Are you all set for the electrical and pad? Are you going to be soaking by tomorrow night?
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So, to sled's comments, I fully disagree. You can't find a better spa for the same money with more.
Bahia! Same $$, A lot more room, more power, and equal quality.(So you know...I used to sell HS and still hold them in high regard. However, the Bahia is a better value than a Caspian)
We won't even get into the fact that a RSM from Watkins admitted to me that the Caspian/Siberian shell is their knockoff of a Bahia/Optima shell.
the Baha does not have "a lot more room, more power " The Caspain and the Bahai are very simillair and people would be best served to check them both out, however, making post like that is just a bit over the top and is a great example why some many folks get confused and frustrated when shopping for a tub.
I've sold both, have you?
I've soaked in both, have you?
Until you've been in both, you have no idea if what I say is "over the top"
Caspian 7X7, Bahia 7'4"X7'4"--------BIG difference
The "more power" will be obvious to anyone who soaks in BOTH!
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So, to sled's comments, I fully disagree. You can't find a better spa for the same money with more.
Bahia! Same $$, A lot more room, more power, and equal quality.(So you know...I used to sell HS and still hold them in high regard. However, the Bahia is a better value than a Caspian)
We won't even get into the fact that a RSM from Watkins admitted to me that the Caspian/Siberian shell is their knockoff of a Bahia/Optima shell.
the Baha does not have "a lot more room, more power " The Caspain and the Bahai are very simillair and people would be best served to check them both out, however, making post like that is just a bit over the top and is a great example why some many folks get confused and frustrated when shopping for a tub.
I've sold both, have you?
I've soaked in both, have you?
Until you've been in both, you have no idea if what I say is "over the top"
Caspian 7X7, Bahia 7'4"X7'4"--------BIG difference
The "more power" will be obvious to anyone who soaks in BOTH!
Hymbaw, just out of curiosity, when was the last time you sold HS? The Caspian was infact a poor performing spa 3 years ago when it originally had 1 pump and the music system. Now with a 2 pump system and water feature instead of music, the spa performs much better than b-4. Just trying to figure out if that's the last you recall of the Caspian? I have used both spas and have a hard time differenciating the theraputic value between the two. That being said, both great spas any decision will be a fine one. ;)
P.S. As far as the RSM comment....That's why none of us listen to them... ;D
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I would generally agree with the Bahia over Caspian argument. No facts just my opinion.
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Hymbaw, just out of curiosity, when was the last time you sold HS? The Caspian was infact a poor performing spa 3 years ago when it originally had 1 pump and the music system. Now with a 2 pump system and water feature instead of music, the spa performs much better than b-4.
I was selling them when they made the switch, I am familiar with both versions. I have no problem with the Caspian. I was just stating that the Bahia is roomier and has more "power". HS should have kept the Siberian around instead of the Caspian IMHO
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Hymbaw, just out of curiosity, when was the last time you sold HS? The Caspian was infact a poor performing spa 3 years ago when it originally had 1 pump and the music system. Now with a 2 pump system and water feature instead of music, the spa performs much better than b-4.
I was selling them when they made the switch, I am familiar with both versions. I have no problem with the Caspian. I was just stating that the Bahia is roomier and has more "power". HS should have kept the Siberian around instead of the Caspian IMHO
I agree.
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thanks for setting me straight. I feel much better. we're going to wet test the sundance maxxus and the jacuzzi 470. those are the 2 we've been most interested in.
the jacuzzi dealer said they'd match any deal we could get at the home show. we visited all the spa dealers. most were like used car salesmen as i heard mention here before. when we went to the sundance dealer he started off telling me the spa was $around $14,000.00 then came down to $12,000.00 but if we bought right now it would be closer to $11,500.00. liking the spa not liking the tactics of the salesman we decide to check it out on our own.
we walked into this sundance dealer, talked to the lady about a couple of models, she was pushing us more towards the optima. when i asked how much the maxxus was she immediately said $11,200.00 to our surprise. we liked that. so saturday we wet test. also the promotion is over sunday. that price is with everything included.
the cover is tri fold. thats the only thing that bugs me. it sits at the end of the spa and would block any view on the one side. but looking around they all sat kind of high. i took it off and put it on no problem.
so what do you think of the price i was quoted? is it in the ball park?
thanx again.