Hot Tub Forum
Original => Hot Tub Forum => Topic started by: r100rs on July 17, 2006, 04:49:48 am
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I presume all electric companies charge by the KWH
(kilo watt hour).
My question is how long does it take to reach that with a given device.
Example. I turn on a floor lamp with a 100 watt bulb.
How long does it have to be on until 1KWH is used?
No I dont have time to do this buy checking my meter and using a clock.
r100rs
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kWh kilo = 1000
1000 watt hours
100 watts for 10 hours = 1 kWh
Your energy supplier has several charges built into or added to the price.
There is the transmission costs.
There may be a multiplier due to line and transformer losses during transmision.
In Ontario, we have a debt retirement charge due to the old Ontario Hydro cost overruns which were never passed along to consumers back in the day.
Steve
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If you spa heater is rated to draw 5000 watts, then for every hour it runs, you will consume 5KW. If you power is $0.10 per KWH, it will cost you about $0.50 per hour.
That's just for the power itself, as r100rs said, there may be other costs added onto that. In our case we pay about $0.075 per KWH, plus sales tax, but no fixed transmission or line fee. We're on a co-op which buys power on the open market, and if their actual costs exceed the base rate, they just add in extra for that too.
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Can you stop bragging about your electrical rates. ;D You are making me very envious.... As of July 20th my rate will be .49 kwh + all the other factors. >:(
If you spa heater is rated to draw 5000 watts, then for every hour it runs, you will consume 5KW. If you power is $0.10 per KWH, it will cost you about $0.50 per hour.
That's just for the power itself, as r100rs said, there may be other costs added onto that. In our case we pay about $0.075 per KWH, plus sales tax, but no fixed transmission or line fee. We're on a co-op which buys power on the open market, and if their actual costs exceed the base rate, they just add in extra for that too.
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Brooke,
It it makes you feel any better my electric bill this month was $355 in CT. Central Air has not stopped and tub has only been connected since the 6th... :-/. Still not as high as you but I can sure share in your sorrow over it.
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At the beginning of the summer I was worried what my bill would be like during the season. At $0.14, I really can't complain - I paid $206 for electric and gas for June.
I guess this is the ONE area being in Jesey has paid off - Whoopiee!!!
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OUCH! $355 is pretty steep! Is that normal in your area? Or are you powering lots and lots of stuff. Of maybe you house is just 150000 SQF and you have 8 air units to cool it?
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Brooke-
Sorry if I hit a nerve. How in the world can they justify rates that high. What makes you power so much more expensive, I wonder?
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Typical electric bill runs approx. $140.00/mo for us. Not sure what it will be with the tub and I won't have a true idea until the fall. CT has just experienced a 20% hike in rates. House is not huge, 2800sf but hubby works nights and I work days so someone always seems to be home and central air has not stopped.
If you think my bill was high did you see Brooke's :o
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Brooke,
It it makes you feel any better my electric bill this month was $355 in CT. Central Air has not stopped and tub has only been connected since the 6th... :-/. Still not as high as you but I can sure share in your sorrow over it.
Can you explain what you mean by your central air has not stopped? do you mean the compressor is constantly running or you mean your air is on and the compressor is cycling normally. :-/
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Can you explain what you mean by your central air has not stopped? do you mean the compressor is constantly running or you mean your air is on and the compressor is cycling normally. :-/
I meant we have not shut it off and opened any windows ;D
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OK just was trying to figure out you high $ electric bill. I live in central florida and ours is always on 24/7 for the last 5 years. It is a heat pump and cycles according to the weather. Our $ /kwh is .10 and just got this months bill, it was 21 kwh higher this month than last year. We have had our tub for 4 months now, so I have been paying attention to consumption and am pleasently suprised. (so far) ;D
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I haven't opened any windows either. Luckily about 4 years ago we purchased an energy efficient heater (92%) and a A/C unit (14+ seer).
I bet I'm close to having it pay itself off from the savings!
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Can you stop bragging about your electrical rates. Â ;D You are making me very envious.... Â As of July 20th my rate will be .49 kwh + all the other factors. Â >:(
Wow, Brooke, .49 Kwh is very high. Do you have that in writing? I'm going to be over 1,000 Kwh's this month. I can't imagine my bill going up to over $500/month. Are you sure you have this correct?
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Gombo,
I called SoCal Edison last week. I was told that what we paid .18 kwh for this time last year would cost .49kwh. This of course is for the 300% over baseline price, which we always hit.
Now, the bill I just paid ($342) was for 1513kwh... so my avg kwh (including other fees, not just the billed kwh) was .23. I'm hoping my percentage of the 300% over baseline will be minimal and so my bill will not increase significantly.
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Gombo,
I called SoCal Edison last week. Â I was told that what we paid .18 kwh for this time last year would cost .49kwh. Â This of course is for the 300% over baseline price, which we always hit.
Now, the bill I just paid ($342) was for 1513kwh... so my avg kwh (including other fees, not just the billed kwh) was .23. Â I'm hoping my percentage of the 300% over baseline will be minimal and so my bill will not increase significantly.
Sounds very expensive Brooke. I always wondered how they established the baseline levels. It's hard to believe that you can be 300% over your allotment. We're not looking forward to our next bill.:P
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Ah, so it appears that this $0.49/kwh is a rate that kicks in when you go over a certain amount of power in a month?
We have similer (but not quite so draconian) rates on our water. We all get one rate up to "X" thoused gallons per billing, and the rate is higher on any water used beyond that.
If that's how your electric rates are banded, then you must have a power company that is struggling to meet demand.
We're using energy at an ever increasing pace, but nobody wants to build power plants.
Might be a NIMBY thing?
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Seems backwards. You would thing you would get discount for using more :-*
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Seems backwards. You would thing you would get discount for using more :-*
Only if there is more to sell. Many electric plants are already at maximum capacity, and there isn't any more to be sold, and to discourage usage beyond the plants capacity, they'll sometimes band rates.
My electric co-op has a switch hooked up to my A/C, and on the heavy use days, they can switch my a/c compressor on and off to balance the load. But they only do it when peak demand hits. The switch and install was free- and I get a discount on my summer electric bill even if they don't need to activate this switch.
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Brewman is right, there is a substantial demand problem. Added to that, generation fuel costs have gone through the roof. There are a number of ways to generate power, most are affected by NIMBY, and California seems to be the worst place to try to build new generation. Nuclear - forget about it - NFW! Wind - and kill all those birds or block my view of the ocean? - no way! The rivers are already negatively impacted, so hydro is out. That leaves coal, oil, or natural gas. Can you say 75 bucks a gallon? In the Northeast many generation companies are just now lifting price caps that kept prices artificially low. BG&E (Baltimore) just received a 75% increase to cover fuel costs. PECO, MET ED, and PPL all have caps expiring by 2010. I work for PPL, we are working with the PA PUC to determine our increase in 2010.
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Brook,
Such is the high price we pay for living in perfect So Cal.
Maybe you should just go around with nothing on to keep cool and reduce your cooling costs?..... ;)