Hot Tub Forum
Original => Hot Tub Forum => Topic started by: dsegel on June 15, 2006, 12:17:46 pm
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My filter/circulation pump run time is factory set to go on 4 times a day (every 6 hours) for 30 minutes.
Any reason to change this? So far, (knock on wood), all has been clear . . . . :D
What circumstances would have to exist to change it?
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Usually its a balance between economy and clear water. Tubs like mine run pump #1 on low for filtering. If I set it to continous, my electric bill goes up. Also in my tub pump #1 comes on low to heat the water. In summer my heater runs less, so the pump comes on less to heat, so usually my filter cycle is longer.
What circumstances would have to exist to change it?
If you are comfortable in your water treatment regiment, you can try cutting it back one setting. If you find your water getting cloudy sooner, turn it back up.
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When my spa was new, my dealer had me set my filter times to one hour, four times per day. Shortly thereafter I adjusted the times back down to the factory presets of thirty minutes, four times a day and have kept them there without issue. IMO, if the factory presets keeps your water clear, then no need to increase the times. If you consistantly get cloudy water then more filter time would be needed.
I have often toyed with the idea of trying fewer minutes, but haven't gone there yet.
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Tony-
If you spa is like mine ('03 Optima) in addition to your main filtering cycles, we also have the small circ. pump running 24 X 7 thru the microfilter.
That may reduce the need to run the main pumps.
My water stays clear on whatever the factory default setting for the main pump is.
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I'm not sure what my Marquis Epic was factory set at?? I've changed from standard to economy and programmed the times for 7:30am-8:30am and 7:30pm-8:30pm. It will filter for 1 hour and heat only during that time. We generally use at 9:30am and 9:30pm. After using, the smart clean will come on and I've left that as it was.
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I realize different manufacturers may have different recommendations, but my dealer recommended having a total of no less than 4-6 hrs total per day of filtration. I have tried 2 hrs for 3 times each day and 2 hrs for 4 times each day and not noted a significant difference. I may try 1 hr 4 times per day as the weather warms up, since I think the pumps running for any length of time will heat the tub up too much.
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My factory settings are 7-9 am and 4-6 pm with a 10 am cycle/purge (30 seconds)of everything. Two months in now and everything is looking good.
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Tony-
If you spa is like mine ('03 Optima) in addition to your main filtering cycles, we also have the small circ. pump running 24 X 7 thru the microfilter.
That may reduce the need to run the main pumps.
My water stays clear on whatever the factory default setting for the main pump is.
Mine is exactly like that. I've thought about cutting down to fifteen or twenty minutes x 4 for the main pump. The factory default is thirty minutes.
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My factory settings are 7-9 am and 4-6 pm with a 10 am cycle/purge (30 seconds)of everything. Two months in now and everything is looking good.
What tub do you have that lets you set specific times? This is a feature I didn't consider when I was buying, but sounds nice.
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What tub do you have that lets you set specific times? This is a feature I didn't consider when I was buying, but sounds nice.
Sundance spas with the LCD controller also let you set specific times. You set a start time and then a duration time. This also includes the circ pump.
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I like that feature. Sundance recommends boosting up the filtering that the main pump does when the temperature nears -30F.
Four filter cycles per day, can go 24 X7 if we want/need.
Plus the flexibility of the circ. pump.
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I like that feature. Sundance recommends boosting up the filtering that the main pump does when the temperature nears -30F.
Four filter cycles per day, can go 24 X7 if we want/need.
Plus the flexibility of the circ. pump.
Infinite programability.
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What tub do you have that lets you set specific times? This is a feature I didn't consider when I was buying, but sounds nice.
It is a Vita with a 200 series controller. You scroll to the time (am or pm) and select to have the pump on or not. 1 hour increments. In my case I have the 7th and the 8th hour on (am) and the 4th and 5th hour on (pm). It only allows 1 hour selection. Of course it cycles through out the day/night when heat is called for.
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My tub only has a 24 hour circ pump, it was an option when I bought the tub. But it's a big one and according to Artesian it pumps 11 GPM. I just assumed other circ pumps did what mine does, I guess it might be nice to have an automatic extra cleaning (perhaps after a party)at times... I have to turn the pump on manually.
It seems to do the job great as long as you keep sanitizer levels adequate but I would think any tub (or maybe some tubs) would get cloudy if you go too long without adding sanitizer every so often.
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OK, now I'm a little confused ... I read the original post by dsegel and the ozonator and why would the circ pump go off when you lower the temp? I can possibly understand the logic if it trips a high limit (although I'm not 100% convinced that this is a good thing) but if you set back the temp?
My circ pump runs 24/7 reguardless of the temp, I've had my tub set to 99 and the water at 105 and the pump is still working. I know the newer Artesians have that feature now of shutting off the pump - can't the water get nasty not filtering?
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OK, now I'm a little confused ... I read the original post by dsegel and the ozonator and why would the circ pump go off when you lower the temp?
Vinny,
They didn't say that the circulation pump goes off when the water temperature goes up, they said the ozonator goes off. Would the ozonator going off cause the circ pump to go off? :-/
Don't know why the water temp would control the ozonator. I didn't think to ask him WHY. :P
One thing I've noticed about my tub. They told me to add dichlor, 3 Tbl. once a week. At the end of the seventh day, the water starts getting a TEENSY bit cloudy and by the morning of the eighth day (when time to add the dichlor), it is quite a bit cloudy. The dichlor has cleared it all up in 24 hours.
I decided to add a HEAPING (I've been adding a LEVEL) teaspoon of the MPS after each use this week to see if I can hold off the cloudiness one more day; however, if that doesn't work, I'm thinking of increasing my circ pump run time and see if that helps. Does this reasoning sound right?
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That's great that you get that far without adding dichlor and don't cloudy water, If I go for more than 2 days my water gets cloudy. My dealer wanted me to use enhanced shock which is dichlor and MPS combined and only use it once a week as well but I don't use her method.
I would suggest mid week to add a teaspoon ful of dichlor and see if it makes an improvement. I use about 1 teaspoon per person and have to add dichlor every other day when I don't soak. I personally am not a big fan of not using dichlor after soaking. I treat the MPS the opposite of you - I add MPS to shock but only occassionally (every 2 to 3 weeks) and use dichlor all the other times - even to shock.
As far as the ozonator, my knowledge of it is as long as flow is going past the ozone venturi you will get bubbles even if the ozonator is not working. That is what leaves me to believe that the circ pump is turning off.
I always have bubbles even though my ozonator can be programed and I thought that Artesian was the only manufacturer to do this but I could be wrong.
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Vinny,
They didn't say that the circulation pump goes off when the water temperature goes up, they said the ozonator goes off. Would the ozonator going off cause the circ pump to go off? :-/
Don't know why the water temp would control the ozonator. I didn't think to ask him WHY. :P
That is not correct. The water temp does not control the ozonator. The circ pump shuts off when the water temp is two degrees above the set temp. It goes into summer logic to prevent the circ pump from driving the temp up. The only time the ozonator shuts off is when the therapy pumps or the blower is manually turned on. When they are turned off, the ozonator turns back on after a wait period of time.
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I have read other posts where some people use the dichlor and the MPS in reversed "roles." I'll give the teaspoon of dichlor mid-week a try and see if that does the trick.
As far as the ozonator, my knowledge of it is as long as flow is going past the ozone venturi you will get bubbles even if the ozonator is not working. That is what leaves me to believe that the circ pump is turning off.
The bubbles are ALMOST always on in my tub. There were a couple times; however, when I noticed the bubbles were not on. If it happens again I assume I should call service on it ??? .