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Original => Hot Tub Forum => Topic started by: Bonibelle on February 13, 2006, 10:53:38 am

Title: Help, how do you just day NO?
Post by: Bonibelle on February 13, 2006, 10:53:38 am
My kids are going to visit my sister this weekend, so my husband invited a couple over for dinner, drinks and to just catch up. We haven't seen them for a while and we thought it would be a good time to socialize and not have to entertain the kids too. Well, they called back to accept the invitation and asked what their kids should bring to use our hot tub. They said the kids are so excited and can't wait to go in.  HUH? my kids won't even be here and I haven't even let them bring friends in. I think my husband only mentioned the tub to these people and never even invited the adults in. I know I sound selfish, but I really don't want anyone but my family in the tub....now I will fume over this all week. And I will probably have to cancel my kid's plans so they can stay home and entertain.  Why do people assume because you have something, it is an automatic invitation? I don't know if any of you have had similar situations but if you have advice on how to handle it tactfully, please clue me in.   :-/  >:(
Title: Re: Help, how do you just day NO?
Post by: brewski on February 13, 2006, 11:18:32 am
I assume that your husband invited the other couple over for an evening visit for dinner and drinks as opposed to a weekend visit is that correct? If so I would not blame you at all if you called the other couple and told them the invitation was meant as an adults only get together and that your children simply won't be there to visit. If the couple cannot or will not get a babysitter for the evening (assuming their children are young) I would offer them a rain check for another time. You certainly don't owe them the use of the hot tub and if I were in your place I would definitely not want to entertain their children especially when your kids won't even be home.  :o
Title: Re: Help, how do you just day NO?
Post by: orlandoguy on February 13, 2006, 11:28:42 am
I would probably pour some green food coloring in the tub and complain the water has been acting strange and your whole family has been breaking out with weird rashes that the doctor can't identify but believes could be fatal.
Title: Re: Help, how do you just day NO?
Post by: Brewman on February 13, 2006, 11:33:32 am
I agree with brewski.  
Honesty is the best policy, as they say.

I'd tell them that your children are not going to be home, because you're shooting for a adults only weekend, so ask that they find someone to watch their kids.
And also tell them that you won't be using the spa- that it's a drinks/dinner/gabbing session.

If they are frineds they will understand.  If they get cheesed off or offended, well that'd be their problem.

I'm right there with you- I don't like small children in our spa.  Even our own children (ages 17 and 22) know they have to ask permission to use the spa, and to ask permission for friends to join them.
I especially don't want toddlers who are still in diapers.

True friends respect each others ways.

Title: Re: Help, how do you just day NO?
Post by: drewstar on February 13, 2006, 11:40:53 am
I hear ya. My wife and I have no children and our tub is more for adults.  However,  there are a few folks that bring thier children over and I've found there really isn't too much you can do, unless you want to sound like an a-hole ...heck I let em use the tub.


I got the tub to be used and enjoyed, and as long as the kids are toilet trained, and follow the rules (no food, no horesplay) they can use the tub.  After all, what's the big deal? Is kid sweat worse than adult sweat?

I don't want my house t become the hang out for kids though, and I don't let it become a habit though.

Cookouts are tougher....I usually have about 30 + folks over and the kids want to used the tub.   I usually just plan on dumping the water after events like that.  
Title: Re: Help, how do you just day NO?
Post by: drprwnap on February 13, 2006, 11:43:30 am
Gee Bonibelle that's a tough one.  I would follow brewski and Brewman's advise- be honest -tell them there's been a misunderstanding- that your kids won't be home and this is an adults only get together.  If they don't understand,  that's their problem.  Good luck!

drprwnap  :D
Title: Re: Help, how do you just day NO?
Post by: Bonibelle on February 13, 2006, 11:55:12 am
Thanks guys. these kids are around my kids ages so they don't need a babysitter. I just figured when my husband said we will have a weekend to ourselves and would like you to come for dinner and drinks, they would realize there wouldn't be much for their kids to do. I would have no problem saying no to small children and could justify it, but these kids are teenagers.
In my mind, I think of the hot tub as a personal item. I didn't intend it to be a party place or hangout for kids either. I guess people have different perspectives.  Like I said I will fume over this all week......And probably have to do a water change on Sunday!
Title: Re: Help, how do you just day NO?
Post by: Tatooed_Lady on February 13, 2006, 12:16:20 pm
how about.....a) planning a "spur of the moment drain/refill to fix the problem that popped up suddenly because of this bottle of bubble bath that MYSTERIOUSLY got dumped in tub" (which, of course, means that you'll have a lot of foam in the back yard), so the water's only about 54 now.." or reminding the couple that it's a "swimsuit free tub", and you just wouldn't feel right with your hubby's "junk" floating around with the kidlets playing in the same tub....OR...shock the TAR out of your tub just before they get there, and mention that you saw some homeless looking guy crawl out of it last night, and you're pretty sure it's now got cooties that can only be cleared up by proper application of chlorine or explosives, chlorine being the first option, which is why the eye burning fumes...you could plan to do a drain/fill the day after, but be sure that no matter how anal retentive your rules on tub use may seem to others.....it is YOUR investment, and if the kiddies (or adults) can't play nice (and go pee in the BATHROOM), or dump stuff in tub, etc....they're just not allowed to play in your sandbox....er...tub.
If it was simply meant as an invite for dinner and yakking it up, maybe mention to the friends that your kids will be gone, and having their kids around won't be exactly condusive to that...and that you hadn't really planned to have a night of 'tub fun'.
I'm nothing, if not creative.
Title: Re: Help, how do you just day NO?
Post by: spiman on February 13, 2006, 12:28:30 pm
The invite was for dinner and drinks, didn't hear the hot tub part or kids in the invitation. If you feel that the tub is a personal tub, that is your right and nobody needs to impose upon your rights. Come up with a BS story if you have to and  are uncomfortable telling them the truth.

Or, throw the circuit breaker just before they come over....... ;)
Title: Re: Help, how do you just day NO?
Post by: Bonibelle on February 13, 2006, 12:29:17 pm
Sooo   funny..Believe me I have had some very similar thoughts. Guess we will see how things evolve this week. Knowing this couple, around Thursday or so they will call and ask if the can bring anything. I just hope I don't say No, but you can leave a few things home...be nice..... be nice...... :-[
Title: Re: Help, how do you just day NO?
Post by: Tatooed_Lady on February 13, 2006, 12:51:09 pm
"sure, you can bring a blank check, just in case your curtain climbers get out of hand...."?
"uhh...no tubbing after ingesting alcohol" (save that one for AFTER the drinks have gone around, and follow it up with "no kids allowed in the tub without a 100% alcohol-free adult IN the tub at all times...."
"Gee, honey...the doctor called earlier, and said that the 'problem' is contagious.....oh, geez.....did we sanitize the tub this week? OOPS!"
Okay, I guess one of the MOST reasonable things I've said or read was just to let them know it wasn't exactly an invite for tubbin'......you could also throw in how you find it extremely amusing to see guys that you know (but don't see naked) in bathing suits, to see if it looks like they're smuggling grapes when they're in swim gear....?  ;D

EDIT: Geez, I forgot my favorite....put up "POLICE LINE DO NOT CROSS" tape around tub perimeter, add a chalk/tape outline of body on the cover, throw a few spent casings from something along the line of .40 cal...chalk outline some more....we did something like that at an apartment community once.....just the body outline and outline of the casings, nothing else....the WHOLE community was a-buzz for WEEKS!
Title: Re: Help, how do you just day NO?
Post by: drewstar on February 13, 2006, 01:07:14 pm
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Thanks guys. these kids are around my kids ages so they don't need a babysitter. I just figured when my husband said we will have a weekend to ourselves and would like you to come for dinner and drinks, they would realize there wouldn't be much for their kids to do. I would have no problem saying no to small children and could justify it, but these kids are teenagers.
In my mind, I think of the hot tub as a personal item. I didn't intend it to be a party place or hangout for kids either. I guess people have different perspectives.  Like I said I will fume over this all week......And probably have to do a water change on Sunday!


Don't fume. Life is too short.  If the worse thing is that folks want to come over and try out your new toy, then things aren't too bad.  8)


Oh for what it's worth, you might not have to do a water change.  It's just a couple of kids.  a bit of shock, some clairfier, and with a bit of luck you'll be back to normal in a couple of days.


I would let the folks know that your kids aren't going to be around. This might disuade them from commming with the rug rats, but eventrually, everyone is going to want to try it out.  For the most part you can grin and bear it, or escalate it to an issue.  

I do let folks know that the tub isn't like the pool, its more for quiet and relaxing, and it's difficult to keep clean (a bit of a lie). I've found that for the most part, once everyone had a chance to try the tub, it became less of an issue.

But then again, despite my house having a lot of toys, it's not very kid freindly ( "You have too many rules Uncle Drewstar" claims one of  my nephews).   Oh well.   ::)
Title: Re: Help, how do you just day NO?
Post by: ssbraun on February 13, 2006, 02:39:01 pm
Geez, that's a tough spot you're in, Bonibelle!  I think the honesty thing is the way to go, myself.  If you go the other way, things have a way of cropping up later...
I've had the same issue, but the ages were younger (infant) so I discussed extreme temperature issues along with the low water:pee ratio inherent to hot tubs ;D.  All was ok.  I guess the flip side is the "don't sweat the small stuff" theory, and if their kids are responsible, have them shower, and insist on washing their swimsuits in your machine w/o soap to get rid of the bubble-bath effect.  It's your investment; you have every right to say no.  You'll just have to gauge the affect on your friendship.  Don't stress out... :)

Steve
Title: Re: Help, how do you just day NO?
Post by: vlady on February 13, 2006, 03:04:16 pm
I like this one -
put up "POLICE LINE DO NOT CROSS" tape around tub perimeter, add a chalk/tape outline of body on the cover, throw a few spent casings from something along the line of .40 cal
Title: Re: Help, how do you just day NO?
Post by: Tatooed_Lady on February 13, 2006, 03:09:47 pm
*happy sigh* yeah, the police line tape was one of my favorites.....

"Don't sweat the petty stuff, and don't pet the sweaty stuff!"
Title: Re: Help, how do you just day NO?
Post by: Perk1 on February 13, 2006, 03:29:00 pm
So, why would you have to do a water change the day after these 2 teen age kids use your tub?  They are not going to get it any 'dirtier' than if you were in there yourself.  Are you a 'germaphobe' and afraid they may leave something unhealthy in the tub?  Chlorine can kill anything!!!

I do agree though that it is your tub and you were planning on an 'adults' only night, so in that case I would kindly let them know that children are not invited on this night and maybe plan another night when all the kids can be together.  

But either way, if you have clean water before they come over and you sanitize as normal when they get out, you will not need to do a water change.
Title: Re: Help, how do you just day NO?
Post by: rick_in_cleveland on February 13, 2006, 03:32:27 pm
Call the AM of the Dinner and say that your Tub was cloudy and you had to shock it... The chlorine levels now are too high for anyone to go in.  

Title: Re: Help, how do you just day NO?
Post by: Tatooed_Lady on February 13, 2006, 03:55:27 pm
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So, why would you have to do a water change the day after these 2 teen age kids use your tub?  They are not going to get it any 'dirtier' than if you were in there yourself.  


Uh....what teenagers have YOU been around lately? *lol* MY teen thinks that showering is an "optional" activity, and only needs to be done once per month, regardless of if he needs it or not. I'm hoping that I don't have to coax the tub out from under the neighbor's bushes every time he decides he wants to soak...so basically, in HIS case, yes, the tub would wind up fouled worse than if I used it, and I would either shock the tar outta it, or if it was pushing the TDS limit, drain, clean and fill it, beat him silly, and put up razor wire around the tub.....
My best wishes to Bonibelle and most sincere hopes that the kids that will visit know what a shower is, and have parents that take you seriously when you ask them to thoroughly rinse out bathing suits for the family...
Title: Re: Help, how do you just day NO?
Post by: ssbraun on February 13, 2006, 04:41:50 pm
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I'm hoping that I don't have to coax the tub out from under the neighbor's bushes every time he decides he wants to soak...so basically, in HIS case, yes, the tub would wind up fouled worse than if I used it, and I would either shock the tar outta it, or if it was pushing the TDS limit, drain, clean and fill it, beat him silly, and put up razor wire around the tub.....


Tatooed Lady, you have one awesome sense of ha-ha...keep it coming ;D

Steve
Title: Re: Help, how do you just day NO?
Post by: fletch49 on February 13, 2006, 04:48:08 pm
don't be so anal...live a little. Big deal, a couple of kids enjoy your hottub for a few hours.

Shock the tub after, and life goes on. I'm glad stuff like this is not a dilemma in my life.
Title: Re: Help, how do you just day NO?
Post by: ssbraun on February 13, 2006, 05:13:47 pm
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don't be so anal...live a little. Big deal, a couple of kids enjoy your hottub for a few hours.

Shock the tub after, and life goes on. I'm glad stuff like this is not a dilemma in my life.


I'm SURE fletch49 meant that in the nicest possible way ::)
Title: Re: Help, how do you just day NO?
Post by: Bonibelle on February 13, 2006, 05:20:03 pm
He's probably right, after all my hubby calls me the spazo woman! I think the whole deal is what is irritating me. It was just supposed to be adults, and because their kids want to go into a hot tub, we get the whole crew. Plus I haven't allowed my kids to have friends in yet, sooo...sorry if I sound like a grouch but.....I may go to the beach for the weekend!
Title: Re: Help, how do you just day NO?
Post by: Vinny on February 13, 2006, 06:13:27 pm
I getting into this a little late but ... I would definately telll your friends that your children won't be there but I wouldn't sweat it if the kids came.

As fletch said, just shock it and get ready for some foam and/or cloudy water. Add some clarifier, clean the filter and it'll be OK.

My tub is by far NOT a party tub but the kids do enjoy going in with their friends. Worst case scenario is to change the water.
Title: Re: Help, how do you just day NO?
Post by: Tatooed_Lady on February 13, 2006, 07:17:39 pm
okay, so worst case scenario is out of the way, they're not in the "semi automatic diaper loader" stage anymore, they're in the "I'm 13-19 and know EVERYTHING, you're a dumbarse!" stage....I'm not sure which I prefer, really...anyhow...
most possible overreactions have been considered (all but maybe the "NO SWIMMERS - SHARK/JELLYFISH QUARANTINE AREA" sign staked in front of the tub.....so, maybe you could ask your kids if they want a friend in sometime this week (homework permitting) BEFORE the friends bring their kids in? Might be easier on you if YOUR kids get friends in before someone else's kids get the non-family, underaged honors?

I can understand the "family only" feeling you've got...it's you and your hubby that have invested a lot of time and effort in getting the "new toy", and you haven't become comfortable with the idea of someone else using it yet, especially on short notice and having the miscommunication thing going on...
I'm not sure how we'll react when ours is here, but I like to THINK I'll be open minded about letting friends and family enjoy our little bit of heaven...of course, I might have a padlock on the cover, with trained guard dogs running rampant around the backyard, too..kind of a crapshoot , but I can pretend to be just as normal and levelheaded as anyone else...  ;D
Title: Re: Help, how do you just day NO?
Post by: fletch49 on February 13, 2006, 07:34:06 pm
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don't be so anal...live a little. Big deal, a couple of kids enjoy your hottub for a few hours.

Shock the tub after, and life goes on. I'm glad stuff like this is not a dilemma in my life.


note to self...after a bad day at the office, don't sent hasty replies. ;)

What I mean't to say is...it's unlikely that the kids will spoil the water. As Vinny said, shock, throw some clairifier in, change the filters...and you should be good. I think what would bum me out is not being able to have the kid free night that you were looking for.

Title: Re: Help, how do you just day NO?
Post by: Bonibelle on February 13, 2006, 07:43:59 pm
Now you got it. Because of the tub, I can't have a kid free night..and when they are done in the tub, I have no kids to entertain them..And I really don't want them in my tub to start with....oh geese, I'm obsessing...
Maybe I better focus on what to serve for dinner that night and just hope for another Nor'easter!  ;D
Title: Re: Help, how do you just day NO?
Post by: realjet on February 13, 2006, 08:35:50 pm
Bonibelle,
I would let the adults know that your kids won't be there. There's a good chance that their kids won't want to come then. You could always "lower" the temp so that they won't want to go in!!
Title: Re: Help, how do you just day NO?
Post by: Tatooed_Lady on February 13, 2006, 08:46:07 pm
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oh geese, I'm obsessing...

Everyone needs a hobby!  ;D
Title: Re: Help, how do you just day NO?
Post by: Vinny on February 13, 2006, 09:33:05 pm
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Now you got it. Because of the tub, I can't have a kid free night..and when they are done in the tub, I have no kids to entertain them..And I really don't want them in my tub to start with....oh geese, I'm obsessing...
Maybe I better focus on what to serve for dinner that night and just hope for another Nor'easter!  ;D




Maybe explain to your friends that you were looking forward to a adults only night but invite them back for a swim in the tub at another (but soon) time. If this is the first tub they'll be in, the kids will be in it for hours. If they don't own a tub it'll be the biggest kick for the other couple's kids.

Having kids in the tub really isn't a big deal ... I've had 8 teenagers in the tub at one time - they had a blast. I also had 5, 10 YO's in the tub at a different time and they also had a blast. I purchased the tub as a family enjoyment item, it is mine (sounds selfish but my wife really isn't interested in it) primarily but my if kids can't enjoy it with their friends - then it really is selfish IMO.
Title: Re: Help, how do you just day NO?
Post by: cappykat on February 14, 2006, 12:35:07 pm
I've gotten into this late also as the weekend is over.  So, tell us Bonibelle...what happened?

I would have been stressing too.  More because of the fact you expected it to be an "adults only" evening.  I wouldn't get too stressed about the tub...like others have said you can always do a refill, but I understand your "obsessing" I do that about the smallest things.  We make ourselves nuts and generally everything works out in spite of it.
Title: Re: Help, how do you just day NO?
Post by: Tatooed_Lady on February 14, 2006, 02:23:44 pm
You're not late, this thread was started yesterday.  ;D Welcome to the party, wipe your feet.
Title: Re: Help, how do you just say NO?
Post by: Bonibelle on February 14, 2006, 05:11:01 pm
Cappy, this event is slated for the upcoming weekend, Saturday night.  I think I will just tell our friends that the bathing suits need to be rinsed well so there is no soap residue. And I will tell them that I am still not the best with my water and often the bromine gets high (like today it is back up over 20????.  I may also suggest that their kids would have a better evening if they came when my kids are home to show them how to use the controls on the tub. If they still want to come, they will have to amuse themselves. Our Playstation is out of commission so I guess they can watch a movie or something after they go in the tub.
Or maybe I will suggest that they do the dishes!
;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Help, how do you just day NO?
Post by: Tatooed_Lady on February 14, 2006, 06:05:57 pm
If they're going to do dishes...they can come here when they're done with yours.... *wink*
Title: Re: Help, how do you just day NO?
Post by: galen on February 14, 2006, 06:11:36 pm
I just bought a Maxxus just so others can enjoy. What the heck can they hurt? Its just water. i agree with Vinny. Your just making too big a deal out of nothing. Hell get in there with them. They may just think your cool.
Title: Re: Help, how do you just day NO?
Post by: bosco0633 on February 14, 2006, 06:36:58 pm
bonn, it is like winning the lotto, everyone comes out of the wood work.  let you kids go do there thing.  I think you should give them a heads up on that.

I tell all my guests to rinse there bathing suits before they come.  I dont think it is rude.  It is like telling people no smoking in your house.

And if you really dont want them in, then tell them that the water is off and the chemical at the high level can burn the skin.  That should keep them out.
Title: Re: Help, how do you just day NO?
Post by: cappykat on February 15, 2006, 06:50:09 pm
We were out of town this past weekend, so I don't know what weekend it is.. ;D

Bonibelle...I forgot to add my weekly shock on Friday, so when we got back into town on Sunday my pH and alk readings were very low (6.2/0).  Bromine was about 1-2.  I added 3 oz. of pH up on Sunday and checked on Monday...still low.  I added 3 oz of baking soda and checked on Tuesday.  Readings were perfect, so I added my shock (3 oz).  Today my bromine is 10+ and it's set on 1.  We haven't used the spa in over a week??  If I run the jets and leave the cover off will the bromine "gas" off??

I get dry patches and I think it's from the bromine so I don't like going in when the bromine is high.  Sorry, I know this is off the subject.
Title: Re: Help, how do you just day NO?
Post by: Snowbird on February 15, 2006, 07:01:32 pm
Aw geez... I'm really sorry if I gave you the wrong impression.  Perhaps I wasn't clear.  We haven't spent time together for so long that we thought this would be a great opportunity for the 4 of us to catch up on what's been going on in our lives.  We are really interested in you two and didn't want the kids interrupting, so we sent ours to my sisters.  If you could get a babysitter for your kids I am sure we will have a good time and I bet you deserve a break and some adult company.  If you can't find a sitter maybe we can reschedule it for another time.
Title: Re: Help, how do you just day NO?
Post by: Tatooed_Lady on February 15, 2006, 08:11:15 pm
Snowbird-
*golf clap* I like that.....at first, I thought you were the company coming, then I realized that BINK! there was a very polite way of saying 'not this round, slappy'....very classy, I like that.
Title: Re: Help, how do you just day NO?
Post by: cappykat on February 15, 2006, 09:11:22 pm
Bonibelle...I'd use the excuse that the chemicals are out of whack. Too high bromine...you'll end up with itchy skin and eyes...blah, blah.  Plus, wouldn't the other couple enjoy it just being adults also? I mean, most parents would like a night away from the kids.

If you really don't want them to use the tub, use the chemical story.
Title: Re: Help, how do you just day NO?
Post by: Bonibelle on February 15, 2006, 09:29:53 pm
I am starting to mellow a bit, but I am refusing to make my kids change their plans and if these guys just don't get it, they they will have to entertain their kids. I will just tell them I am not great with the water thing and that is true. Hopefully they will suggest that the kids come when my guys are around. It looks like we will be getting really cold weather again this Sat so who knows....maybe my cover will freeze shut!
Title: Re: Help, how do you just day NO?
Post by: Snowbird on February 15, 2006, 09:42:15 pm
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Bonibelle...I'd use the excuse that the chemicals are out of whack. Too high bromine...you'll end up with itchy skin and eyes...blah, blah.  Plus, wouldn't the other couple enjoy it just being adults also? I mean, most parents would like a night away from the kids.
If you really don't want them to use the tub, use the chemical story.

Cappy,

If she wanted to have an adult soak with adult beverages the chemical story would be a problem.  Better to stick to the truth even though it might be a shade sneaky.
Title: Re: Help, how do you just day NO?
Post by: Tatooed_Lady on February 16, 2006, 07:47:02 am
Boni, only problem with hinting around.....is that some people don't take hints...some people need a baseball bat upside the head with a note stapled to it, written in blood before they get the idea. And....umm...I'm all outta staples, sorry.  :-[
Title: Re: Help, how do you just day NO?
Post by: cappykat on February 16, 2006, 08:57:50 am
Snowbird...I agree the truth is always the way to go.  I meant if they bring their kids use the chemical story.

Title: Re: Help, how do you just day NO?
Post by: Bonibelle on February 16, 2006, 10:41:29 am
I sure hope they like liver and onions for dinner  ;D
Only kidding. I have put this somewhere else for now (in the back of my mind, where ever that is..) and I am concentrating on having a good time. Hopefully, they will take us up on the invite to bring the kids when my kids are here.  ;)
Title: Re: Help, how do you just day NO?
Post by: Guzz on February 16, 2006, 10:55:43 am
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I sure hope they like liver and onions for dinner  ;D
Only kidding. I have put this somewhere else for now (in the back of my mind, where ever that is..) and I am concentrating on having a good time. Hopefully, they will take us up on the invite to bring the kids when my kids are here.  ;)

Liver & onions mmmm count me in.
Title: Re: Help, how do you just day NO?
Post by: Bonibelle on February 16, 2006, 11:03:54 am
Common' up, Guzz, I'm the only one in my family that actually loves liver and onions and I haven't had it for years!  But are you going to ask to jump in my Epic too?
;D
Title: Re: Help, how do you just day NO?
Post by: Guzz on February 16, 2006, 11:19:53 am
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Common' up, Guzz, I'm the only one in my family that actually loves liver and onions and I haven't had it for years!  But are you going to ask to jump in my Epic too?
 ;D

From this thread it sounds like the Epic is not for sharing, so I'll stick to the liver & onions and bring you a HotSpring Rubber Ducky for your Epic.
Title: Re: Help, how do you just day NO?
Post by: cappykat on February 16, 2006, 11:43:45 am
I'll be there too...I LOVE liver and onions.
Title: Re: Help, how do you just day NO?
Post by: Snowbird on February 16, 2006, 12:28:24 pm
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Snowbird...I agree the truth is always the way to go.  I meant if they bring their kids use the chemical story.

If the kids insist on coming you can send this and tell them it is a new game they can play when they visit.  The name of the game is "Don't you wish you stayed home with the sitter?"

(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d3/VeroSnowbird/avatar_ani_064.gif):o

:P :P :P
Liver and onions!!!  My dad (83 years old) and I love them.  SWMBO makes it with bacon in the microwave.  But I got to have lots of ketchup!  Where's the end of the line?
:P :P :P
Title: Re: Help, how do you just day NO?
Post by: Bonibelle on February 16, 2006, 12:50:41 pm
Ketchup???I put tons of that on my scrapple but on liver?? :-/
Title: Re: Help, how do you just day NO?
Post by: Snowbird on February 16, 2006, 01:11:58 pm
Yeah...  And I put butter on my grits too.  So there! ;D
Title: Re: Help, how do you just day NO?
Post by: Tatooed_Lady on February 16, 2006, 01:51:04 pm
ooooohhhhh......buttered grits....haven't had those in 25 years?
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Post by: drewstar on February 16, 2006, 02:00:31 pm
Scrapple?

Gritts??

Good lord.   ::)  



How do you cook your grits, do you like them regular, creamy, or al dente?  

Title: Re: Help, how do you just day NO?
Post by: Snowbird on February 16, 2006, 02:04:34 pm
One of the things I learned from the US Airways - Piedmont merger was where grits come from.

When perogis get old and dry out, they are ground up and sold as grits.  No wonder I like them so much.

:D
Title: Re: Help, how do you just day NO?
Post by: cappykat on February 16, 2006, 02:16:26 pm
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Snowbird...I agree the truth is always the way to go.  I meant if they bring their kids use the chemical story.


Just read that again...sounds a bit conflicting, huh!  Like the title of the thread..."Just say NO!!"

I LOVE buttered grits too!  No ketchup on the liver though.  Lots of onions.
Title: Re: Help, how do you just day NO?
Post by: nm-tn on February 22, 2006, 03:36:52 pm
Ok, so I read the whole thread and there's no ending? What happened?  :-/
Title: Re: Help, how do you just day NO?
Post by: Bonibelle on February 22, 2006, 09:05:31 pm
Sorry, but the ending was quite boring and just proved that I should have listened and not worried.  My sister and her daughter got sick (enough to go to the doctor) so my kids stayed home. We decided to play it by ear and wait for our guests to ask about going in the tub. Dinner went real well and the kids pulled out board games to amuse themselves and then decided on a movie. I guess the thought of going into the hot tub was more exciting than the reality. When our teenage guests realized (brain flash) that going into the hot tub meant going out in the cold in your bathing suit....they decided against it anyway. I was so glad because the next morning when hubby decided to jump in, my water had become all cloudy AGAIN!!! It was fine Saturday night and no one even went in. I can't believe that I am still having such trouble with keeping my water clear. Thankfully, though no one went in Saturday night because I would have felt really bad if they got a rash.
I am using up the rest of my bromine cartridges and OUT goes the frog.... >:(
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Post by: Tatooed_Lady on February 23, 2006, 08:51:14 am
Boni,
Congrats on having a WAY less stressful evening than you'd predicted. And you had all the opportunity in the world to panic, have us come up with WILD excuses....and you didn't even need them!
Added bonus, as you said, no one went in and got a rash, and you know it WASN'T anyone there that fouled the tub...
I say when there's trouble, let's give the most over the top overreactions possible, just to make it easier on the person that's stressed. *lol* Give a chance to vent, laugh, and hopefully wind up like Boni did......minus the cloudy water....  ::)
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Post by: Bonibelle on February 23, 2006, 10:05:40 am
I am so glad that you decided to buy a hot tub! I have enjoyed your posts so much!  And I am so glad no one went in because you are right, I probably would have thought that was why the tub got cloudy. I am just  so very frustrated and I don't see anyone else having these water problems so I must be doing something wrong! When I pulled the bromine cartridge out this morning to give it a shake and be sure there was still bromine it it, I noticed all of the blue lettering had flaked off and was floating in the well.....what's that about? Now I have blue flakes all over.... :o
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Post by: Tatooed_Lady on February 23, 2006, 10:10:53 am
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what's that about? Now I have blue flakes all over.... :o

Aww, thanks, Boni....I've enjoyed asking all my stupid questions and getting real answers, as well! Also.....those blue flakes aren't writing from the floater.....it's those darned smurfs that have been sneaking in the tub at night.....it would explain the cloudy water, too....they've been peeing in it.....SHOCK! heheheh
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Post by: drewstar on February 23, 2006, 12:23:49 pm
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I am so glad that you decided to buy a hot tub! I have enjoyed your posts so much!  And I am so glad no one went in because you are right, I probably would have thought that was why the tub got cloudy. I am just  so very frustrated and I don't see anyone else having these water problems so I must be doing something wrong! When I pulled the bromine cartridge out this morning to give it a shake and be sure there was still bromine it it, I noticed all of the blue lettering had flaked off and was floating in the well.....what's that about? Now I have blue flakes all over.... :o



Maybe take a water sample in for testing?

AS far as the catrigde de-laminating...wow. Sounds like a defect or poor design. While the dealer is testing your water see what they have to say about the cartridge.  

hmmmmmm. catridge flaking off it's coating,and cloudy water. Could they be related? .What could cause both?  Acidic water? high bromine? Huh... You know talking completely out the side of my left butt.... It almost sounds like a circulation problem. (As in poor to none) This would result in high bromine concentrations near the catridge, causeing the damage, and low sanitizers in the tub, causing the cloudiness.  
Title: Re: Help, how do you just day NO?
Post by: Bonibelle on February 23, 2006, 02:15:30 pm
Hey Drew, You really have me thinking now...I am going to call my dealer and then King...they make that dang frog.
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Post by: drewstar on February 23, 2006, 02:23:45 pm
I was hoping one the experts could jump in, because the more I think about it,  I bet the two are related?  


Does your catridge float around the tub or is it inline? Are the lines, basket clean?

These are things my amature brain first thought of:

How often and long are your filter cycles?  

Filter(s) have been cleaned and well rinsed lately?

What does test strip show?  

When was the last water change out?

Have  you noticed a diffference in how fast/slow the bromine pucks disolve? Have you changed brands on Bromine?

If all the above were fine, I'd test the water at the dealer.
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Post by: cappykat on February 23, 2006, 02:32:01 pm
I'm thinking Drew may be on to something.  Have you changed the filter cycles from the factroy programmed?

I haven't changed a thing with the settings and knock on wood, I'm doing ok.  Haven't had any problems with labeling coming off either.

What have your filters looked like when you've taken them out to clean?  Let us know what you find out.
Title: Re: Help, how do you just day NO?
Post by: drewstar on February 23, 2006, 02:37:23 pm
the other I have experieced in my Dichlor tub is the water gets really cloudy if I use a foam down product.  (some clairfer if needed and touch of defender alternating every other week and that's it for me. Water is clearer).
Title: Re: Help, how do you just day NO?
Post by: Bonibelle on February 23, 2006, 03:35:20 pm
Thank you Thank you Thank you!!!
Drew, the bromine and mineral cartridges are in line and snap into a holder that fits into a well. Water enters the well from the top and exits at the bottom. The strong flow makes a swirl action that spins the cartridges of bromine and minerals, distributing them into the water. This happens when the jets are on and during filtration cycles. .....Which I think was not happening.  Cappy, I think it was just as you thought...When I checked to see my filter cycle times, there was no display.(it just kep telling me standard,  but no filtration times) My husband is great for just pushing buttons, not looking (because he can't see without his glasses) and he pushes the buttons until something happens. Usually he is trying to turn on the waterfall lights. I tripped my breaker and reset everything. I put in new filtration times AND PUT THE CHILD LOCK ON! We will see if this resolves my problem but I am pretty confident that the fact that the tub wasn't filtering (for ...I don't know how long) caused my problem. Thank you both so much! ;) ;D
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Post by: Tatooed_Lady on February 23, 2006, 04:05:07 pm
child lock? so that doubles as the 'husband lock' mode too, right? I hope so, cuz I'm married to a monkey.....if there's a button, he'll push it, ESPECIALLY if I tell him not to....my 14 year old son, as well....uphill battle the whole way, lemme tell ya.  ;)
Title: Re: Help, how do you just day NO?
Post by: drewstar on February 23, 2006, 04:14:43 pm
Well as I mentioend in another thread, someone "fat fingered" the summer mode on my tub a few weeks ago.  The lesson may be Check you settings before you panic.
Title: Re: Help, how do you just day NO?
Post by: Bonibelle on February 23, 2006, 05:00:06 pm
Yep Drew, My settings are out of wack...and the settings on the hot tub were probably not right either!
Again thanks.  ;D
Title: Re: Help, how do you just day NO?
Post by: cappykat on February 23, 2006, 05:18:43 pm
Child lock?  I didn't know we had that??
Title: Re: Help, how do you just day NO?
Post by: Tatooed_Lady on February 23, 2006, 10:09:24 pm
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Child lock?  I didn't know we had that??

I found out after paying on the Grandee that there's a temp lock AND a spa lock......temp lock keeps fat fingers and kids from setting the tub to 108 or 80 (or anywhere in between), spa lock keeps anyone from making tub function, other than, apparently the normal cleaning routine.....I thought that was a pretty slick idea, since I've got TWO button pushers living with me.
Title: Re: Help, how do you just day NO?
Post by: Bonibelle on February 24, 2006, 12:11:01 pm
Cappy, the instructions are in your manual but if I remember what I did yesterday (that is getting increasing hard for me), It's temp+ or temp- and quiet soak. that will lock all settings.
Title: Re: Help, how do you just day NO?
Post by: Bonibelle on February 25, 2006, 12:03:40 pm
Aaaahaaaah I caught my man red handed last night, just pushing the buttons like crazy...again. When I asked him, he said he was just trying to turn on the light...I knew it..I asked him why he didn't just use the spa monitor in the house and believe it or not he said he didn't want to mess anything up!  good thing my child lock was on... ;)
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Post by: Tatooed_Lady on February 25, 2006, 04:39:06 pm
*ROTFL* did you let him know the "husband lock" is on because he pushes too many buttons?