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General => General info Somewhat hot tub related => Topic started by: Gomboman on January 14, 2007, 10:18:28 pm
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I can't believe the Chargers lost. Way too many turn overs. At least Kaeding didn't miss a SHORT field goal this time. What a bummer.....
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Its off to Indy for the Pats. We in Patriot Nation have been very spoiled. :)
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Its off to Indy for the Pats.
I think it's finally gonna be Peyton's year. He's about due. :-/
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I can't believe the Chargers lost. Way too many turn overs. At least Kaeding didn't miss a SHORT field goal this time. What a bummer.....
I was routin' for the Chargers all the way. It's shame that this was their fourth straight postseason loss. I really thought they had a good chance at making it to the SB. :(
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Hard to blame Kaeding. The offense going 3 and out and giving the ball back to NE and then the defense failing to stop them on the last drive seemed to be the problem.
King of an ugly game all around.
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Got my first good look at the Chargers yesterday as we don't see much of them on the east coast. Outside of Tomlinson they look pretty ordinary to me. Not a very well played game on either side but on your home field you have to find a way to win. Oh, and Merriman is a jackass. A total non factor.
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Sorry Gomboman - would have loved to have seen the Chargers beat the Pats.
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Is LT still spokesman for San Diego Caldera dealer? 8-)
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Sorry Gomboman - would have loved to have seen the Chargers beat the Pats.
Lots of talent, but lack of dicipline and mental awareness did the Chargers in.
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I think the Chargers coach didn't make the greatest choices. You don't go for it on 4th and 11 on the thirty something yardline. Especially at the beginning of a game! Go Pats!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Sorry Gomb. It was a great game....right down to the very end. I understand Charger fans are taking it very hard.
But, with all the trash talk, and restricited tickets... they choked. TL's little rampage, I almost feel sorry for him, actually I'm a bit embarrased for him. What a great player, but he's lost a lot of respect here in the North East.
GO PATS!
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What did LT say after the game? I missed it. I heard he was nominated for the JUST SHUT UP AWARD on Mike and Mike/ESPN radion.
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What did LT say after the game? I missed it. I heard he was nominated for the JUST SHUT UP AWARD on Mike and Mike/ESPN radion.
After the win, some Pats were out in the field dancing. A couple were doing the "Lights Out" dance and LT went ballistic. Really balistic. He was ranting and raving on the sidelines, he had to be restrained, and afterwards in formal post game comments said the Pats had no class, and it probably came from the coach.
LT looked like a sore loser. But, even a few days latter he can't keep his mout shut and is keeping it up.
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What did LT say after the game? I missed it. I heard he was nominated for the JUST SHUT UP AWARD on Mike and Mike/ESPN radion.
He won, too.
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from this article: http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-nflside16jan16,1,1493472.story?coll=la-headlines-sports
Hobbs added the San Diego fans were "spitting at us, they're throwing stuff, the fans are giving us the finger, they're chanting, 'We want Indy!' … And it all just backfired in their face."
Well isn't that nice.
Can't wait till next year...I hope all the Patriots get out there and dance the damn hokey pokey across those lighting bolts painted on the field.
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from this article: http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-nflside16jan16,1,1493472.story?coll=la-headlines-sports
Hobbs added the San Diego fans were "spitting at us, they're throwing stuff, the fans are giving us the finger, they're chanting, 'We want Indy!' … And it all just backfired in their face."
Well isn't that nice.
Can't wait till next year...I hope all the Patriots get out there and dance the damn hokey pokey across those lighting bolts painted on the field.
And they've got Rivers on tape yelling to Hobbs that he's the worst corner in the league.
Any team who orders a victory parade before the game deserves no respect.
This is sooo sweet because the Chargers with all their pregame trash talk just didn't think they could lose. Double that for Meriman with his "lights out dance" who was a non factor in the game. ;D
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Can't wait till next year...I hope all the Patriots get out there and dance the damn hokey pokey across those lighting bolts painted on the field.
I think the Chargers come to Foxboro next year. ;)
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I think the Chargers come to Foxboro next year. ;)
You are right. :)
I wonder if New England should restrict ticket sales to that game to only people with a New England address? ;) ;D
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I think they should. I understand Indy is doing it for this Sunday with Manning saying "we only want Colts blue in the stands."
Of course there aren't many tickets to get for any game in Foxboro.
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I think they should. I understand Indy is doing it for this Sunday with Manning saying "we only want Colts blue in the stands."
Of course there aren't many tickets to get for any game in Foxboro.
No there are not a lot. When they built the new Stadium they didn't increase the capacity. (I like it. It's a great stadium). But we don't restrict ticket sales to anyone and I am against doing so. It's a sport for crying out loud. Fans should be welcomed. I don't mind some good natured ribbing, but restricitng ticket sales is for losers.
I spoke to a few folks who thought it was a good idea for the playoffs, and was amazed. These are the same folks that complain and moan that you can only get tickets from a scalper....arrrgh.
Maybe NewEngland should just restrict tickets to those people living in South Cal, Chicago and Indiana? ;)
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No there are not a lot. When they built the new Stadium they didn't increase the capacity. (I like it. It's a great stadium). But we don't restrict ticket sales to anyone and I am against doing so.
I wouldn't jump on my high horse just yet. This is a new trend for big games and you can't say NE is not on board until they have their next big playoff game. Indy and SD didn't use to do it either. I'd expect it to become the norm when teams can EASILY sell out a playoff game and want that home field advantage.
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I wouldn't jump on my high horse just yet. This is a new trend for big games and you can't say NE is not on board until they have their next big playoff game. Indy and SD didn't use to do it either. I'd expect it to become the norm when teams can EASILY sell out a playoff game and want that home field advantage.
I don't know if I'm on a high horse or not. I don't speak for NE. Just myslef. I'd be disapointed too if NE did it as well.
Restricting ticket sales is lousy for ALL the fans, the comunity, encourages high end scalping, and relfects poorly on the team.(IMHO).
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I don't know if I'm on a high horse or not. I don't speak for NE. Just myslef. I'd be disapointed too if NE did it as well.
Restricting ticket sales is lousy for ALL the fans, the comunity, encourages high end scalping, and relfects poorly on the team.(IMHO).
I can't agree with you. If Indy has a home game I see nothing wrong with them hold the tickets for their fans. They could probably sell 100,000 tickets to that game but can probably only seat 70,000. Why not reward their fans by making it availble to them? If NE fans want to go to the game they need to have their team earn home field.
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I was under the impression that the NFL controls the ticket policies for playoff games. Teams can't issue any without league approval, and allocations for home teams, visitors, NFL teams/sponsors/big wigs are rigid. I believe that season ticket-holders snap up most of the home team seats that are available to the general public. I would guess that any restrictions regarding buyer addresses are an attempt to limit scalping, and ensure that the tickets go to fans -- not brokers. I doubt it is part of a conspiracy to enhance home field advantage. :)
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I can't agree with you. If Indy has a home game I see nothing wrong with them hold the tickets for their fans. They could probably sell 100,000 tickets to that game but can probably only seat 70,000. Why not reward their fans by making it availble to them? If NE fans want to go to the game they need to have their team earn home field.
How do you define Fan? Resident of the State? Maybe they should check ID's at the gate too? . I guess Tickets to the Superbowl this year will only be sold to New England And Lousiana fans, eh? Hey you want to see a Superbowl game, them have "your team" EARN it.
What if I was a New England fan and actually lived in San Deigo? Could I buy ticket? Or should we restrict it to only "Charger Fans, living in SoCa?
It would be a sad day in sports if this ever gets offically adopted. How can you restric ticket sales to fans? It goes against everything about being a fan, the competion of the sport. Talk about poor sportmenship. I think it sucks.
I bet it could be argued that restricting ticket sales could be a form of discrimination and actionable in a court of law?
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I was under the impression that the NFL controls the ticket policies for playoff games. Teams can't issue any without league approval, and allocations for home teams, visitors, NFL teams/sponsors/big wigs are rigid. I believe that season ticket-holders snap up most of the home team seats that are available to the general public. I would guess that any restrictions regarding buyer addresses are an attempt to limit scalping, and ensure that the tickets go to fans -- not brokers. I doubt it is part of a conspiracy to enhance home field advantage. :)
Nope. IT was cleary stated that it was done with the specific desire to fill the stadium with Charger fans. It's got nothing to do with scalping and everything to do with home field advantage.
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Nope. IT was cleary stated that it was done with the specific desire to fill the stadium with Charger fans. It's got nothing to do with scalping and everything to do with home field advantage.
I'm curious what the source for all this hub-bub was. Clearly stated by whom (or who -- I never can remember which way to go on that :-/ :))?
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... I guess Tickets to the Superbowl this year will only be sold to New England And Lousiana fans, eh?...
Although Drewstar's source of info on ticket policies may very well prove me wrong :), I've got to leave shortly so I'll just take the chance and comment on Super Bowl tickets: Very few Super Bowl tickets go to true fans (by most definitions :).) The NFL distributes a majority of them to corporate sponsors, business partners, lobbying targets, team owners (for similar uses), etc. Even the host city/team get very few, and most of them are used as perks, not sold to the public. Even season ticket holders for the teams in the game have little opportunity to attend. I don't think their address will make much difference.
Other than lotteries by the the participating teams and host location, one of the best sources for people who actually have to buy tickets are NFL players and coaches who each are allotted tickets for purchase. They used to do quite nicely scalping them, attracting media and IRS attention...so the NFL now requires the player/coach to pick them up in person at the event location, and account for their distribution. 8-)
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It's been widely reported that it's the reason. iut's pretty common knowledge. This isn't the first time it's been done either. I'm sorry I cant provide you direct quotes, but google news should help you if you feel you need further information.
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How do you define Fan?
I'd say those that fill the seats for regular games like the ones against Tennesee and Arizona should be the ones with first dibs so I'd say local people. How local? I don't know but I'm sure they can define that pretty well and if there are local NE fans there then they'd have a shot.
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It's been widely reported that it's the reason. iut's pretty common knowledge. This isn't the first time it's been done either. I'm sorry I cant provide you direct quotes, but google news should help you if you feel you need further information.
No, I don't feel the need. I'm perfectly content with the opinion that this is likely more radio talk show/internet fodder than vetted news ::). Regardless of the source, there are so few tickets to these events that are available to the general public that policy regarding the sale of the last few really won't have much effect on the balance of blue&silver vs blue&white in the stadium :)
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Oh I agree. A stadium could simply say tickets are only sold in person at the stadium ticket office, and therfore in effect restrict 99.99% of the sales to local fans.
It's just the policy itself smacks me of being unsportsman like. As I said in a previous comment, I have no problem with a bit of trash talkin' among the fans and with the players to a certain extent, but the restricted tickets sales are a over the top.
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I have always felt that one should have to take and pass a test about the two teams who are playing in that particular playoff game in order to purchase tickets. Way to many people attend just to say they were there.
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In school, we were always taught that during sporting events, keep the place imacualte, show school spirit and pride, and remember that we are "hosting" the event, and that the opposing team and thier supporters are our guests.
It was about sportsmanship, team pride and having fun. I couldn't imagine the school princiaple saying "we are shutting the doors/gates to anyone supporting the visiting team"
Guess there's no room for that in Pro sports. :-[
As far as tickets all going to people in the know, or connected, I thought about that, and I know that at Gillete Stadium, (as well as any major event) there are a lot of tickets set aside for sponsors and such, but most of the ticket holders I've met have been pretty down to earth, hardworking folks, far from what would be consider "elite". Sure it can be tought to get tickets for a particular event, espically if the team is doing well, but the notion that the majority of tickets are set aside for folks "connected" I really doubt that. It may seem that way, given that the stadium holds only about 60K folks, and there are hundreds of thousands of folks wanting them
Reese, do you have any info on how many tickets are put aside for an event for sponsors and VIPs? I'd be surprised if it was more than 10%. (if that)
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...but the notion that the majority of tickets are set aside for folks "connected" I really doubt that. It may seem that way, given that the stadium holds only about 60K folks, and there are hundreds of thousands of folks wanting them. Reese, do you have any info on how many tickets are put aside for an event for sponsors and VIPs? I'd be surprised if it was more than 10%. (if that)
The ticket situation for playoffs and the Super Bowl is much different than the regular season. Your comments about the average fan are somewhat true during the season, although with ticket prices and concession costs, the ticket base is increasingly going to corporate entertainment uses, especially the best seats. That is why you see a playoff game at Soldier Field with several thousand no shows, mostly in the best seats between the 40s. :-? Even though Bears fans are as loyal and hardy as any, the corporate tickets go unused when the weather is less than perfect.
As far as postseason, what I posted before still stands regarding NFL control, and allocations of tickets. I don't know the percentages anymore, but there are very few playoff tickets available for an "average joe", unless they are season ticketholders -- and forget about the Super Bowl!:P
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That is why you see a playoff game at Soldier Field with several thousand no shows, mostly in the best seats between the 40s.
Maybe that's because the Bears suck? ;D
Seriously though, all those empty seats between the 40s during inclemant weather? Those are the club seats. Those folks have access to the climate controlled area behind the glass and are probably in the club during bad weather.
Do you have Season tickets? Do you go to a lot of games a year?
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Seriously though, all those empty seats during inclemant weather? Those are probably the club seats. Those folks have access to the climate controlled area behind the glass and are probably in the club during inclemant weather. Do you have Season tickets? Do you go to a lot of games a year?
My understanding is that there were over 6000 no-shows out of 62000+ tickets sold. They'd have to pass through the turnstiles to get to the club, so the club seat pansies would be in addition to the folks who didn't come. I don't know what the travel conditions were in/around Chi on Sunday, but I thought it was relatively mild at game time -- 32 degrees or so. 8-)
I am part of a group that splits tickets for most of the local teams, so I end up going to a couple/few of games in each team's regular season, and am usually able to attend playoffs, if I want. I also have a couple of good connections who can usually provide tickets when I want to go and my seats aren't available. That said, I usually prefer to watch on TV -- especially pro sports. I don't have the patience for all the timeouts, and as I get older, I appreciate the antics of the crowd less and less. ::)
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one out of every 10 seats was empty? WOW.
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and as I get older, I appreciate ::)
that the beer is cheaper and the restroom is closer.
r100rs
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that the beer is cheaper and the restroom is closer.
;D ;D
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that the beer is cheaper and the restroom is closer.
r100rs
Restroom? Amatures.
Guys, this is the SUPERBOWL.
Slap on some depends, grab a case of beer, and you wont have to get off the sofa all day.
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Just to close the door on the entire LT fiasco:
http://www.webini.com/webini/2007/01/shawne_merriman.html
I'm sorry the Pats lost Sunday, but the Colts deserved to win that game. That having been said I'm rooting for da Bears!