Hot Tub Forum
Original => Hot Tub Forum => Topic started by: jnsjr58 on January 29, 2006, 03:12:03 pm
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I am in the process of bidding on a new 6 Person 66 Jet Spa from Pinnacle Spa's Elite Series - The Aspen on Ebay. I'm old enough to know to listen to my "Gut feeling" but the savings potential is unreal. Please, somebody........ zap me back to reailty........ soon!!
Thanks
Jim
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Zap-Zap-Zap, If the savings are unreal, maybe they are unreal, never buy sight unseen. Zap
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I would say do not be fooled...you are paying what the spa is worth....ebay can be fine for somethings but if its something that you can always find there than it just a like any other place to buy....its really not much of a bid when if you want three you can have three.....there are many poorly made spas that one can find locally with out going to ebay for.....infalted jet counts and number of pumps do not mean better value.....what I am saying is that it not so much of a real deal as much as that is what that spa pretty much sells for...
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You're risking that it'll be what you expect site unseen. You also will be the repair person if/when issues arise no matter what you're promised.
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Listen to your gut. It's right.
Seriously, at the very least, go visit a dealer and talk with them. If possible, meet the owner and the service manager. Odds are, they're great people and they'll be impressed you want to meet them. Their business and their future both depend on making you happy with your tub. They will work hard to get you happy and to keep you happy. Do you think the eBay seller will do the same? I seriously doubt it.
I'm not a dealer nor do I have any ties to the industry except as a hot tub owner.
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Another thing that must be considered when looking at these 'lesser' quality spas is energy efficiency. You may save a little up front on the initial cost but the operating costs may soon eat up those savings and then some.
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Perk1 raises a good point- There are reasons that some of these spas are inexpensive. One way to cut costs is to skimp on the insulation. If this is the case here, you'll pay the electric company over the life of the spa, instead of paying a bit more up front.
I'm not a betting man, but if I was, I'd bet that energy prices aren't going to go down during the next decade.
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As well as the good advise i'm getting here. I am starting to get some good responces from people who bought spas on ebay..................... Very mixed reviews. I am holding my bids at this point and will be doing some futher research.
Thanks to all for your advise.
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I talked to a good friend who is a Hotspring dealer this past weekend. They had a good story about Ebay purchases. Last year, in the beginning of spring they had two friends who wanted to buy two spas. I am sure every dealer has one of these stories.
Obviously, because they were buying two spas they wanted a “deal” for two Caspians. They said fine because they had two leftover 2004 models. The deal eventually does not go through for whatever reason.
However, one of the guys purchases a spa online (the dealer didn’t know this at the time) and the other guy doesn’t buy a spa. Now comes this past weekend, the one that hasn’t bought the spa comes in looking for a spa and the salesperson remembers him because of the “deal” from last year. Trust me, salespeople don’t forget $16,000 dollar deals.
The salesperson says to him, what happened to your friend? He bought a spa online. Salesperson response: When would you like to set up delivery for your new Grandee?
I did a little paraphrasing, but I think you should get the point.
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In the spa industry, there are some people who sell cheap and then skate on the service. Sometimes they just don't have a clue how to run a business, other times they are downright dishonest. How to avoid those folks, and deal instead with the honest people who DO have a clue, and who WILL be there to help you down the road? Here are some things to look for:
- The bigger the name brand, the better your chance of having a good buying and owning experience.
- If at all possible, you want to see the tub before you buy.
- You want to see things like color,
- fit and finish, general qulaity.
- You want to try the depth by sitting in it dry,
- And if you are very wise, you will try the comfort by sitting in it wet.
- The longer the dealer has been in business, the better.
- And finally, the easier it is for you to walk into the store and remind the dealer that you paid him a lot of money, the better.
Now which of these is missing with an Ebay purchase?
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In the spa industry, there are some people who sell cheap and then skate on the service. Sometimes they just don't have a clue how to run a business, other times they are downright dishonest. How to avoid those folks, and deal instead with the honest people who DO have a clue, and who WILL be there to help you down the road? Here are some things to look for:
- The bigger the name brand, the better your chance of having a good buying and owning experience.
- If at all possible, you want to see the tub before you buy.
- You want to see things like color,
- fit and finish, general qulaity.
- You want to try the depth by sitting in it dry,
- And if you are very wise, you will try the comfort by sitting in it wet.
- The longer the dealer has been in business, the better.
- And finally, the easier it is for you to walk into the store and remind the dealer that you paid him a lot of money, the better.
Now which of these is missing with an Ebay purchase?
ummmmmm........all of the above.......
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As well as the good advise i'm getting here. I am starting to get some good responces from people who bought spas on ebay..................... Very mixed reviews. I am holding my bids at this point and will be doing some futher research.
Thanks to all for your advise.
I'd concentrate on the negative ones, since I suspect that all may be well until there's a problem an then who do you call.
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I am starting to get some good responces from people who bought spas on ebay..................... Very mixed reviews.
Are you finding good results or mixed reviews? There will be some with good reviews but the others will tell you that they thought they were getting a deal but were really buying a lesser prodcut for lesser $$. The lure of the eBay spas is people think they're buying a dollar bill for $0.85 and that's just not true. You get what you pay for and in this case it's a crapshoot. The people who seem to be the happiest with these type purchasers are the do-it-yourselfers who are willing and able to be their own spa setup guy and service person. If that's not you I have one word of advice for you: fagetaboutit. Otherwise, you've got to ask yourself one question: "Do I feel lucky?"
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My point with Ebay is at times you can find some good buys and some hard to find itmes...but I know many people who make a full or part time livings buying and reselling on Ebay....people I know here in so cal who will go to the wholesale district in LA and buy things just to sell on Ebay ....again it is not a true Bid situation if you want say 3 in three different colors and you can get them....at that point it is just a retail operation and Ebay is the store front....
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Over on Doc's board, there is an ongoing saga of someone having a huge problem getting her Home Depot spa serviced. Sounds like she's getting the royal run around on a control board problem.
And that's on a locally purchased spa.
Imaging the additional level of complexity she may have without even a local presence.
Ebay sure wouldn't get involved in any service issues.
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Brew - I don't call buying a spa through Home Depot a 'local purchase,' and here's why:
The bigbox stores handle tubs through a national or regional program. As such, they simply open a truck one day and its full of spas. They have a place assigned to display the tubs, and somebody usually comes in to see to it that there are brochures and info sheets. In some cases there is a local supplier, but they may be responsible for stores over a large area, and they are only really worried about making the chain store head office people happy, not the end user.
Bottom line: nobody at the store is a spa expert, nobody can teach how to care for the tub, nobody can even show you how to properly connect it and/or start it up.
Finally - let's face it: if several folks have problems trying to get after-sale service, it certainly isn't going to hurt Home Depot. But if I or another local dealer starts getting a reputation for not taking care of problems, we lose everything.
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As I've stated before. I bought a hot tub on ebay and am satisfied with it thus far. I knew I was taking a chance, but I did some research, checked out the company selling them and talked to the company people. Checked out the service, warranty and such. Before I made my purchase I compared what I was getting for what I was spending to other spas and companies. As of right now I'm very happy with my purchase. I've had it over a year with no complaints whatsoever!
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I knew I was taking a chance, but I did some research, checked out the company selling them and talked to the company people. Checked out the service, warranty and such. Before I made my purchase I compared what I was getting for what I was spending to other spas and companies.
Unless that research was talking to multiple people who actually owned the product it doesn't mean much. You'll only get positive answers from the sellers but what else could be expected and even with the buyers, it really matters if they've owned them a couple years and can atest to their quality and reliability. As far as the warranty and service, again, unless you spoke to multiple spa owners who have actually had issues resolved under warratny (and I doubt you'll find this, at best you can hope they send you the part for you to fix it) all you'll get is promises of warranty and service and maybe a piece of paper faxed to you that only means they created a warranty sheet.