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Title: My first Shiner Bock
Post by: bosco0633 on December 10, 2006, 12:48:17 am
Ok term I am in Erie PA for the weekend.  I am shopping for Christmas with the family.  tax free state and all.  Anyways, I went to the local bar with my brother in law and low and behold, a creamy yellow draft tap with a rams antlers on top.  I look at the writing and on the tap and see in dark blue letters BOCK.  My interest peeks immediately as I have been waiting for the past 2 years to find this beer.  

I ask, is this shiner bock, and the bar thender says "yeah".  I say Ill take it, she gives me the option of small or large.  I take a 32oz draft.  Its dark, I was suprised, I thought it was a lighter beer for some reason.  I dont do well with dark beer.  My first sip, wait a second, WOW THATS NICE.

Well, I am drinking my beer and I wind up meeting people at the bar and strike up friendly conversation with some americans.  What a different take on life from what I am use to.  Anyways, 6 32oz. beers later, I get my tab and leave.  It was a great night, and I now have a new favourite beer.  

On my way back to Canada in the morning, I am going to stop off in Amherst Newyork, where I will search dillegently for a close supplier of this fine brew.  

Oh, just like all american beers, it lacked the abillity to knock me on my ass.  I just dont find american beer to challenge my sobriety like my strong canadian brew.  

Good call term, great beer.
Title: Re: My first Shiner Bock
Post by: Brewman on December 10, 2006, 12:02:56 pm
What is the alcohol content of the strong Canadian beers which you are referring to?
 The stuff imported to the USA from Canada (Molson, Labatt's, Moosehead, etc.) have about the same amount of alcohol as the beer made here.  The "lite" beers tend to have a little less, that's one of the secrets in removing calories.
 Is the stuff made for Canadian consumption (vs for export) of a higher alcohol content?

Title: Re: My first Shiner Bock
Post by: wmccall on December 10, 2006, 03:48:25 pm
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Ok term I am in Erie PA for the weekend.  .


Let me guess, Millcreek Mall.   This is my home town.  They do have a HS dealer, but no Heisman winners though. The tax free only applies to clothing.
Title: Re: My first Shiner Bock
Post by: bosco0633 on December 10, 2006, 05:59:09 pm
milcreek mall indeed, plus all the big box stores.  I went to a store called Kholes, it was amazing, the deals!!!!  Anyways, some canadian beers hit the 7% status which is nice, but I find some of our beer to be more flavorfull then some of the american stuff.

Shiner bock, was absolutely the best beer I have had since Germany this year.  I could not find it in Buffalo, so I think that I am SOL.  They do sell a bock beer at the local tops in buffalo, it was something tan.  My brotherinlaw drank it yesterday and it was a little dark for my likeing.

Brewman, do you know what beer I am talking about.  The company was something..... and ended with tan.  I may give that a go next time I am over the river.

Instead, I picked up 3 60 oz. bottles of baileys, great for the tub, my wifes fav. drink while enjoying the tub.  

Title: Re: My first Shiner Bock
Post by: Vinny on December 10, 2006, 07:23:50 pm
There is something called black and tan. I know Yingling has one version of it. I also think that Guiness is added to some lighter beer to get that. I had the Yingling and it's pretty good.

I've had Molsen and Moosehead in the past but lately I've been drinking Yingling and Sam Adams. I did try to get some Hocker Psor (sp?) Octoberfest last week but since it's not October, I didn't get any.

Luckily there are a few retailers around me that I can get various microbrews. I do try to get a different beer once in a while but most people I know only drink big name beers.
Title: Re: My first Shiner Bock
Post by: Bonibelle on December 10, 2006, 07:58:47 pm
Bosco, I know this was about beer, but if you liked shopping at Kohls, sign up on line. They always have great sales and often free shipping. I love Kohls for everything from clothes to housewears...it's a nice store with great prices!
Title: Re: My first Shiner Bock
Post by: Brewman on December 11, 2006, 07:43:00 am
There are various brands of "Black and Tan" style beers out there, could have been one of them.  I can't think off the top of my head, any other style or brand that ends in "tan".  But there are so many micro's out there, it could be something I've not seen before.

If you want a real Black and Tan, stay away from the pre bottled, and ask for a real one.
Title: Re: My first Shiner Bock
Post by: bosco0633 on December 11, 2006, 06:49:15 pm
wmcall you got it, that is what it was. I saw that in buffalo but was waiting for shiner bock.  

Kohls, great place but will not ship free to canada.  To much cost involved.
Title: Re: My first Shiner Bock
Post by: East_TX_Spa on December 12, 2006, 10:38:16 am
I'm glad you got the chance to try it...it truly is the nectar of the gods!

If you ever get a chance, add a bottle to a pot of chili (and I don't mean some kind of stew with beans in it...that ain't chili!).

Someone brought me a case to the store the other day as a Christmas present!

What a Merry Christmas it shall be.

Term
Title: Re: My first Shiner Bock
Post by: pg_rider on December 12, 2006, 10:46:41 am
Term, you got a good chili recipe to share?
Title: Re: My first Shiner Bock
Post by: bosco0633 on December 12, 2006, 08:49:02 pm
I make the best turkey chilli.  I use two cans of crushed tomatoes, 1 can of the kidney beans, 2 cans of mushrooms, a little garlic, a bunch of chilli powder or taco seasoning, 2 packages of ground turkey. diced cellery, franks hot sauce, and 5 diced up jalapenos that I mix in the meat while cooking.  I find the heat helps bring the spice out into the meat.  

I also sometimes, add carrot and peppers to the pot.  Someone told me to add a touch of vingegar to the chilli.  I dont know what exactly this will do. I also put in 4 tbspns of dried chilli peppers.
Title: Re: My first Shiner Bock
Post by: Vinny on December 12, 2006, 09:16:44 pm
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I make the best turkey chilli.  I use two cans of crushed tomatoes, 1 can of the kidney beans, 2 cans of mushrooms, a little garlic, a bunch of chilli powder or taco seasoning, 2 packages of ground turkey. diced cellery, franks hot sauce, and 5 diced up jalapenos that I mix in the meat while cooking.  I find the heat helps bring the spice out into the meat.  

I also sometimes, add carrot and peppers to the pot.  Someone told me to add a touch of vingegar to the chilli.  I dont know what exactly this will do. I also put in 4 tbspns of dried chilli peppers.

Bosco,

I don't believe you make the best turkey chile.

I think you need to prove it - New Years Eve - we'll all come over, you supply the chile (probably 25 lbs (you can convert to metric) will do) I'll bring some Yingling Black and Tan! 8-)

OK everybody - Party's at Bosco's ... everybody sign up to bring something!!





OH , wait ... I don't have a passport.   :( I hope everyone else can make it!  :'(

I was so looking forward in tryng out an Arctic!! :)
Title: Re: My first Shiner Bock
Post by: bosco0633 on December 13, 2006, 08:23:36 am
If any of you fellow americans are ever in the neighbourhood, you look me up and you are more than welcome to stop by.  We now have a huge guest room in the basement, lots of cold beer and nice wine available and of course my one and only, the true love of my life, my arctic tundra.  I mean, my wife, I would love to introduce you to my wife.

Actually vinny, I was suggesting that we all pick a time and meet in vegas next year, possible at the next hot tub vacation.  Wmcall, I know that it is not a cruise but it could be alot of fun.
Title: Re: My first Shiner Bock
Post by: wmccall on December 13, 2006, 08:41:50 am
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If any of you fellow americans are ever in the neighbourhood, you look me up and you are more than welcome to stop by.  We now have a huge guest room in the basement, lots of cold beer and nice wine available and of course my one and only, the true love of my life, my arctic tundra.  I mean, my wife, I would love to introduce you to my wife.

Actually vinny, I was suggesting that we all pick a time and meet in vegas next year, possible at the next hot tub vacation.  Wmcall, I know that it is not a cruise but it could be alot of fun.


I have this  vision of a dozen people with foam out, Dichlor bottles and Taylor kits arguing about what to do next.  Where in Ontario are you?
Title: Re: My first Shiner Bock
Post by: bosco0633 on December 13, 2006, 12:52:04 pm
I am in Hamilton, the steel town or how in my line of work we call the "hammer".  

I vision Vinny slowly walking around the tub with a ph test kit, while tex is shooting empty bottles of shiner bock, windsurf dog hanging his hoochadinkie out and protesting clothes.  

I see zep in socks and jordan shorts, anne drinking her wine in her nurses uniform, galen will be wearing a fur coat made out of deer with hidden cameras being placed all around my house.  Bonnibelle will be reading books on erotica checking out mostly lurking girl.  Hot tub Frank will be reading english for dummies and wmcall will be wearing black and white striped bathing suit with a whistle.  Brewman will be working the bar handing out quality brew.  Drewstar will be there with his keyboard throwing out the one liners, and tileman, will be in the corner tanning his chisled physique.  Then he will get mad and call everyone names and leave.

I can see the water filled and drained 12 times, with everyone showering before entering the tub.   It will be so nice I cant wait.
Title: Re: My first Shiner Bock
Post by: Brewman on December 13, 2006, 03:15:35 pm
In between pouring you guys real black and tans (forget the pre made stuff), I'd be target shooting with "tex" and perhaps kicking back with a fine ceegar.  
 Cigars and Black & Tan's go really well together!

 In Canada- I believe you're allowed to purchase Cuban cigars there without breaking any laws- maybe breaking the bank, but not the law.

Title: Re: My first Shiner Bock
Post by: East_TX_Spa on December 13, 2006, 05:02:47 pm
Good lord, there ain't no dadgum beans in chili, and there 'specially ain't no celery!!!! :o

Pg Rider, I will post a chili recipe for you when I get a chance.  One of our friends trapped and butchered a wild hog on our property a couple of weeks ago and made us some chili.  It was some of the finest I've ever had.  Little wild pigs are mighty tasty!

Terminator
Title: Re: My first Shiner Bock
Post by: Vinny on December 13, 2006, 06:41:49 pm
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I can see the water filled and drained 12 times, with everyone showering before entering the tub.   It will be so nice I cant wait.

I don't want to shower before getting in the tub!


Maybe I'll smuggle myself in ... I'll bring some dichlor for you!  Oh man, you're a cop  :o... I ain't smuggling anything ... I'm whistle clean ... This was NOT a confession ... I'm staying in the USA so I can't be extridited!!! ;D


AND the truth has to be known - I have brought my Taylor kit to a friend's house because they didn't know anything about water care BUT I did not use it. YES! I AM A TECHNO GEEK!!!!!
Title: Re: My first Shiner Bock
Post by: Tatooed_Lady on December 13, 2006, 07:55:43 pm
wow.....everyone's at bosco's havin' a good time except me... :'( he couldn't see me, so obviously his glasses were dirty.....I was the one hiding car keys and tying shoe laces together...wow....lotsa foam in the tub, Bosco, you'd think someone had dumped Mr. Bubble in it....... :D
Title: Re: My first Shiner Bock
Post by: bosco0633 on December 13, 2006, 09:03:35 pm
tlady, I forgot, you are in the middle of the back yard.  I picture you with a midget and a bearded lady holding a chain with a bear on the end of it showing off your tats to all of us.  For some reason, my vision of you is so different then I think you really are.  I picture you with tats from head to toe.  Its funny how are imaginations work when you dont show us your picture.  Maybe show us a photo and you can come to the party.
Title: Re: My first Shiner Bock
Post by: anne on December 13, 2006, 10:40:24 pm
Bosco, you have it so figured out that the real thing just could not live up to your description! Can I invite Galen and Silent Water along to drink wine with me?
Title: Re: My first Shiner Bock
Post by: Gomboman on December 13, 2006, 10:55:43 pm
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I am in Hamilton, the steel town or how in my line of work we call the "hammer".  

I vision Vinny slowly walking around the tub with a ph test kit, while tex is shooting empty bottles of shiner bock, windsurf dog hanging his hoochadinkie out and protesting clothes.  

I see zep in socks and jordan shorts, anne drinking her wine in her nurses uniform, galen will be wearing a fur coat made out of deer with hidden cameras being placed all around my house.  Bonnibelle will be reading books on erotica checking out mostly lurking girl.  Hot tub Frank will be reading english for dummies and wmcall will be wearing black and white striped bathing suit with a whistle.  Brewman will be working the bar handing out quality brew.  Drewstar will be there with his keyboard throwing out the one liners, and tileman, will be in the corner tanning his chisled physique.  Then he will get mad and call everyone names and leave.

I can see the water filled and drained 12 times, with everyone showering before entering the tub.   It will be so nice I cant wait.

That was a great post Bosco. You forgot Brookenstein. What would she be doing at your party? Oh, and how about Spatech t.u.o.. ?
Title: Re: My first Shiner Bock
Post by: bosco0633 on December 14, 2006, 12:38:36 pm
I think that brook will be teasing abot the nurses outfit, and spatech will be sitting in a leather recliner with a smoking jacket and asgot, exlpaining the desing structures of hot tubs.

Gomboman, I picture you like Mr. Rogers for some reason.  I see you wearing a sweater and trunks singing its a wonderful day in the nieghbourhood.  You just seem to nice.

Anne, they are invited, galen is wearing the dear fur coat to my place.

Did I mention the main activity.  I am brining JA from Colorado down, so we can all play pin the tail on the donkey.  

Hey Zep, can you bring that hot friend of yours that goes in your hot tub.  And cola, you can take pictures with your million dollar camera, but please, what happens in the tub, stays in the tub.
Title: Re: My first Shiner Bock
Post by: East_TX_Spa on December 14, 2006, 12:52:11 pm
Here you go Pg Rider:

Start with this (http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b206/EastTexasSpa/CarrollShelbyChili.jpg)

Take 2 lbs of cubed sirloin (or ground beef or wild piglet), brown it in a pan with Worcestershire sauce and some Maker's Mark Kentucky Bourbon

Drain most of the fat, but leave a smidgen

Turn stove top to LOW

Add 16 oz can of tomato paste

Add 1 12 oz bottle of Shiner Bock Beer (Guinness will do in a pinch)

Add Carroll Shelby Chili Kit

Chop up 1 jalapeno pepper into little bitty pieces, add it (seeds and all)

Add a hefty sprinkling of Pitre's Cajun Seasoning (the Pitre's are customers of mine and make the finest Cajun seasoning I've ever et.  It has very little salt.  Tony Chachere's is an alternative)

Add a couple of extra tablespoons of chili powder

Add a teaspoon of oregano

Add a teaspoon of cumin

Add a tablespoon of garlic powder (NOT garlic salt!!!)

Add a tablespoon of crushed red pepper

Add a couple of teaspoons of Pick-a-Peppa Steak Sauce

Stir it while it simmers.  Add a little more Shiner Bock if it starts getting too thick.

You're supposed to let it simmer an hour or so, but I can't ever wait that long.


Put some in a bowl, sprinkle some Monterey Jack cheese on top, and eat it with Saltine crackers followed by a bowl of Blue Bell Ice Cream (trust me...do it) and the rest of the Shiner Bock!

Let me know if it don't kill you.

Terminator
Title: Re: My first Shiner Bock
Post by: wmccall on December 14, 2006, 03:50:41 pm
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That was a great post Bosco. You forgot Brookenstein. What would she be doing at your party? Oh, and how about Spatech t.u.o.. ?


This is a test, this is only a test, had this been an actual hot tub emergency, you would have been instructed where to turn in your local hot tubbing area.
Title: Re: My first Shiner Bock
Post by: LtDan on December 14, 2006, 04:41:02 pm
Wow Term, that sounds like a recipe for a bowel bomb but I'm gonna have to try it.
Title: Re: My first Shiner Bock
Post by: Gomboman on December 15, 2006, 12:05:13 am
Very funny. Is Tileman invited to the party? I'm sure pg_rider will be there with his bike? I would like to invite Vermonter also.

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I think that brook will be teasing abot the nurses outfit, and spatech will be sitting in a leather recliner with a smoking jacket and asgot, exlpaining the desing structures of hot tubs.

Gomboman, I picture you like Mr. Rogers for some reason.  I see you wearing a sweater and trunks singing its a wonderful day in the nieghbourhood.  You just seem to nice.

Anne, they are invited, galen is wearing the dear fur coat to my place.

Did I mention the main activity.  I am brining JA from Colorado down, so we can all play pin the tail on the donkey.  

Hey Zep, can you bring that hot friend of yours that goes in your hot tub.  And cola, you can take pictures with your million dollar camera, but please, what happens in the tub, stays in the tub.
Title: Re: My first Shiner Bock
Post by: bosco0633 on December 15, 2006, 08:32:27 am
all welcom, Tman this will give you an upfront look at the arctic tub.  vermonter may not like my method of sanitization.  I use bromine.
Title: Re: My first Shiner Bock
Post by: East_TX_Spa on December 15, 2006, 10:15:46 am
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Wow Term, that sounds like a recipe for a bowel bomb but I'm gonna have to try it.

Be sure to go back and re-read the ingredients as I forgot a couple of very important steps.  When you brown your meat, pour a little Maker's Mark Kentucky Bourbon in there.

The one rule about the way I make chili is that it is not an exact science.  Sometimes I grab something I found in the back of the cabinet and throw it in.  If it tastes bad, I just add more chili powder and Shiner Bock and it levels out again.

The recipe above is a very good combination I came up with through experimentation.  The measurements are not exact, you may have to tweak it a bit.

Enjoy!

Term
Title: Re: My first Shiner Bock
Post by: drewstar on December 15, 2006, 11:13:15 am
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tlady, I forgot, you are in the middle of the back yard.  I picture you with a midget and a bearded lady holding a chain with a bear on the end of it showing off your tats to all of us.  For some reason, my vision of you is so different then I think you really are.  I picture you with tats from head to toe.  Its funny how are imaginations work when you dont show us your picture.  Maybe show us a photo and you can come to the party.


Llamas, where are the llamas and marsupials?
Title: Re: My first Shiner Bock
Post by: vlady on December 15, 2006, 03:51:31 pm
Hey now!  Don't be forgettin about me.  I can still party with the best of 'em.  Plus, I'm a Shiner Bock lover too!
Title: Re: My first Shiner Bock
Post by: tanstaafl2 on December 15, 2006, 05:12:48 pm
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In between pouring you guys real black and tans (forget the pre made stuff), I'd be target shooting with "tex" and perhaps kicking back with a fine ceegar.  
 Cigars and Black & Tan's go really well together!

 In Canada- I believe you're allowed to purchase Cuban cigars there without breaking any laws- maybe breaking the bank, but not the law.


Love a good cigar and although I will just stick to Guiness straight up rather than a black and tan. A crime to waste a perfectly good Guiness by mixing it with something anymore than I would mix with a quality single malt scotch!
 ;)

But I must say of the few real cuban cigars I have had while traveling overseas I don't think most of what they sell these days are any better or even as good as some of the Dominican and Nicaraguan cigars you can get now and they usually cost more.

Maybe the ones that Fidel has are good. Not impressed with the few I've had though.
 :-/
Title: Re: My first Shiner Bock
Post by: bosco0633 on December 16, 2006, 03:03:24 pm
vlady, calm down your avatar scares the hell out of me. You can come, but please, Canada has strict rules on guns.

I love a good cigar from time to time.  I was in Cuba this year and smoked a really nice romeo jullietta.  It was so nice.  The problem is that so many are fakes in cuba and you never know what you are getting. I guess counterfit cigars are big industry using bannana leaves for tobacco.