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Title: vegas help
Post by: bosco0633 on November 29, 2006, 10:35:03 am
Well I booked a flight on the weekend just because it was so cheap.  I got flight for 59$ return.  Total bill for two travellers was 122$

I stayed two years ago on a cheap package that landed me at the stratosphere.  It was to far out of the way and in a shady part of town.  

So, because I got the flight for cheap I was looking at staying at a nicer place.  Oh, and it is also my fifth wedding anniversary.  I chose vegas as a suprise for my wife, because I know how much she loves me checking out beautiful woman.  Maybe this time, she may just order me a date for the night as a present to show how much she loves me.  zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz..... Sorry, drifted away for a miniute.

So my question is, what hotels do you recommend.  I have been looking at treasure island, New York New York and Flamingo.  Bellagio, venetian, and Wynn are slightly out of my price range, by alot.  Ceasers is closer but I would still like to book a little cheaper so I have more money to tip the dancers,  oops I mean to have fun while down there.

Any comments
Title: Re: vegas help
Post by: drewstar on November 29, 2006, 10:39:42 am
I stayed at  Madalay Bay. (Down on the other end of the strip)  I thought it was great. It was next to the Luxor, and a few other nice places.  It had some great resturants, pool, shopping and great casinos and was very classy without the vegas tack that some places have.

I would also recomend, if your looking for other activites while in vegas,  the helicopter tour  from Paypalon Tours over the Hoover  D@mn and down into the Canyon was amazing.  :)
Title: Re: vegas help
Post by: Spatech_tuo on November 29, 2006, 11:04:36 am
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Well I booked a flight on the weekend just because it was so cheap.  I got flight for 59$ return.  Total bill for two travellers was 122$

I stayed two years ago on a cheap package that landed me at the stratosphere.  It was to far out of the way and in a shady part of town.  

So, because I got the flight for cheap I was looking at staying at a nicer place.  Oh, and it is also my fifth wedding anniversary.  I chose vegas as a suprise for my wife, because I know how much she loves me checking out beautiful woman.  Maybe this time, she may just order me a date for the night as a present to show how much she loves me.  zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz..... Sorry, drifted away for a miniute.

So my question is, what hotels do you recommend.  I have been looking at treasure island, New York New York and Flamingo.  Bellagio, venetian, and Wynn are slightly out of my price range, by alot.  Ceasers is closer but I would still like to book a little cheaper so I have more money to tip the dancers,  oops I mean to have fun while down there.

Any comments

I've been to Vegas a few times. The last 3 times I stayed at Luxor, NYNY and Excalibur (with kids that time). I really liked the first two as far as the hotel/casino and also stayed at teh Mandalay once which is right there and it's awesome. HOWEVER, I've also stayed at Bally's and Caesers and the thing I REALLY liked about those was the fact they were much more centrally located and you do walk a LOT unless you're the type to just camp out at the BJ table (blackjack). I would look into them along with Paris, Flamingo, Mirage & Aladdin; your feet will love you if you stay away from the hotels on the ends of the strip like the Luxor or Mandalay (as much as I REALLY like them).
Title: Re: vegas help
Post by: Brewman on November 29, 2006, 11:19:16 am
I'd recommend a hotel Mid strip- like the Mirage- it's not the cheapest place out there, but it's very convenient.  As you found out the Stratosphere is on the far end of the strip and in a rather ratty area.  
 Mandalay Bay, the Luxor, and Excalibur are on the other end- very nice places, but getting from one end of the strip to another can be a long trip- especially if you're walking.  

 The Flamingo is pretty mid strip- and I think you can often find pretty good rates there.  I've not stayed there myself though.  
Title: Re: vegas help
Post by: countryboy on November 29, 2006, 11:23:03 am
Bosco you flying out of toranto or Buffalo? who wa sthat price with?
Title: Re: vegas help
Post by: bohms on November 29, 2006, 12:42:31 pm
I would stay mid strip.  In May we stayed at the Mirage and really enjoyed the location.  We also really liked our stay at Caesars.  We stayed at NYNY a few years ago and we weren't too impressed - probably one of the worst pool area's in Vegas (not sure if you were planning on swimming) but the casino is a lot of fun....small but fun and lively with a lot of young people (at least when we went it was).  I have never stayed at TI but it seems like a young and lively place, it's right next to the Mirage, but kinda seemed out of the way to me (for some reason).  We have also stayed at the Flamingo a couple of times and that's kind of like a Holiday Inn type place (rooms need a little help), but one of the best pools on the strip (behind Mirage and Mandalay Bay of course).
Title: Re: vegas help
Post by: Dr. Spa™ Ret. on November 29, 2006, 01:43:21 pm
This is your lucky day. I checked, and they apparantly have rooms still available.

http://www.hooterscasinohotel.com/
Title: Re: vegas help
Post by: Spatech_tuo on November 29, 2006, 01:46:25 pm
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This is your lucky day. I checked, and they apparantly have rooms still available.

http://www.hooterscasinohotel.com/

But that's off the strip a bit and if you want to leave the hotel

Hmmm, good idea.
Title: Re: vegas help
Post by: drewstar on November 29, 2006, 01:58:48 pm
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This is your lucky day. I checked, and they apparantly have rooms still available.

http://www.hooterscasinohotel.com/


It's vegas - there are boobies everywhere!   I bet you  couldn't  swing a dead cat in vegas without hitting  boobies. Hooters is out of its leauge there.

Title: Re: vegas help
Post by: Dr. Spa™ Ret. on November 29, 2006, 02:22:38 pm
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But that's off the strip a bit and if you want to leave the hotel

Hmmm, good idea.

Only 1/2 a block.
Title: Re: vegas help
Post by: Spatech_tuo on November 29, 2006, 02:27:10 pm
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But that's off the strip a bit and if you want to leave the hotel

Hmmm, good idea.

Only 1/2 a block.

Yeah but that ½ block to get to "the strip" but then its at the end of the strip so any walking is a haul. My feet say no but the rest of me says maybe (assuming my wife isn't going as her response would be a simple stare at such a suggestion).
Title: Re: vegas help
Post by: Brewman on November 29, 2006, 02:50:58 pm
A regular city block or a Vegas block?  Vegas blocks can be deceptively long.  Walking past the Bellagio seems to take forever.  
Title: Re: vegas help
Post by: Dr. Spa™ Ret. on November 29, 2006, 03:16:46 pm
Hell, walking from one hotel to the hotel next door is such a hike I suggest a backpack with food and water for the trip. Besides the hike, it's either 120 degrees, or below 35 with 40 mile per hour winds whipping up sand storms....This is why I either drive to Vegas, or have a very large cab fare fund...
Title: Re: vegas help
Post by: wmccall on November 29, 2006, 03:44:56 pm
If I was going, I would stay at the Montecido.

Title: Re: vegas help
Post by: Dr. Spa™ Ret. on November 29, 2006, 03:58:54 pm
It's Montecito, and Ed says he wont let you come back after what you did last time
Title: Re: vegas help
Post by: wmccall on November 29, 2006, 05:10:32 pm
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It's Montecito, and Ed says he wont let you come back after what you did last time

Nikki Cox didn't seem to mind, it must have been the security tapes from the hot tub area.
Title: Re: vegas help
Post by: East_TX_Spa on November 29, 2006, 06:15:40 pm
Desert Inn is pretty nice, more old school.  I've stayed at Harrah's, I think, it was kind of run-down at the time.  Treasure Island was pretty good.  Venetian was my favorite, I think, but I got tired walking around.

Get a Rascal scooter and pretend you're a Wal-Mart patron.

Terminator
Title: Re: vegas help
Post by: galen on November 29, 2006, 06:44:20 pm
Hey, he's a cop. He ain't got the money us Yankee's do. I got the place and its clean. I've been out there a hundred times. Circus Circus. Cheap clean and mid strip.
Title: Re: vegas help
Post by: Spatech_tuo on November 29, 2006, 07:02:49 pm
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Hey, he's a cop. He ain't got the money us Yankee's do. I got the place and its clean. I've been out there a hundred times. Circus Circus. Cheap clean and mid strip.

Heck, that's at the END of the main strip (though I've always liked it).

IMO, for walking purposes it's best to be betwen the Venetian and the Aladdin, preferably on that side too.

http://vegas.com/lounge/map.html

Title: Re: vegas help
Post by: galen on November 29, 2006, 07:10:32 pm
Yea your right, Its within walking distance from the convention center.
Title: Re: vegas help
Post by: tileman on November 29, 2006, 08:27:38 pm
I'm waitin' for a New Yorker to read these posts about walking distances and fall out their chair from laughter. ;)
Title: Re: vegas help
Post by: bosco0633 on November 29, 2006, 11:41:47 pm
I got all excited about the BJ tables then realized you were talking about cards not BJ's.

Cops do pretty well down here.  The overtime is what makes us healthy.  Im not sure about police pay down in the US but I cant really complain here.

I have narrowed down to Treasure Island and Flamingo.  I am waiting for the deal.  If Ceasers, Mirage or Venetian have a price drop, I will take one of them.
Title: Re: vegas help
Post by: Brewman on November 30, 2006, 08:07:26 am
All good choices, you'll be right near the middle on the strip.  

Police do ok here- there sure is a lot of competition for the open LE jobs.
I know a few people who've been out of school for a couple years, and not having any luck finding work in that field.  Most of them are working security while job seeking.        
Title: Re: vegas help
Post by: galen on November 30, 2006, 09:11:26 am
Generally speaking, police are under payed. At least around here they are. And with Canadians the exchange rate is not in their favor.
Title: Re: vegas help
Post by: wmccall on November 30, 2006, 09:47:01 am
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Generally speaking, police are under payed. At least around here they are. And with Canadians the exchange rate is not in their favor.

I dont' know if Lt dan would agree (he works for a suburb)  But the Columbus PD's pay starts low, but with a few years of senority it goes up to respectable pretty fast.  Those suburb cops can afford Jacuzzi's!
Title: Re: vegas help
Post by: drewstar on November 30, 2006, 10:12:31 am
Here in MA we have a #$$#% rule that states a uniformed cop must be on duty for all construction, traffic and road work (anything effecting the flow of traffic). Talk about corrupt.  Every year, the paper show's the top cop earners in the state, and you'll see patrol officers raking in $150,000.00  2/3 of which is from double time for waving traffic by a pot hole being filled.

I don't begruge folks making some cash, and I respect the police, but the $#%#$%#$ Unions that got that law through are corrupt bast@ards raping the tax payer.


“In calendar 2003, the average compensation for a BPPA officer was $82,100 based on an average regular pay of $52,900 with overtime, paid detail"
 
"In fact, 267 patrol officers received $100,000 or more and 469 officers were paid $90,000 or more last year.” That’s a lot of money any way you want to cut it. That’s a lot of incentive to fight tooth and nail for a 17 percent pay raise, including picketing the US Conference of Mayors."


Boston, with the country's 20th-largest police force, has one of the nation's best-paid forces. (2nd only to NYC).

For some,  the Thin Blue Line  has a hue of gold to it.
Title: Re: vegas help
Post by: Brewman on November 30, 2006, 10:47:07 am
Amazing.  That's way more than cops make in this area, but they don't do too bad-

 I think in this general area, starting pay for a non experienced fresh outa school patrol officer starts somwhere in the mid $30K range, maybe about $37K or so.
 Plus OT, and a pretty good pension plan.  

  That's not a bad starting pay for someone fresh outa school- you need at least a 2 year program at community college or vo-tech for entry level police here.


Public school teachers start in the same general pay range.
Title: Re: vegas help
Post by: drewstar on November 30, 2006, 11:06:57 am
Arrrgh. now you did it! you brought up school teachers!  :D

Got a "friend" who hasn't been able to keep a steady job in the past 10 years. She's lazy. She's self centered, and a bit "off".

She currently got a job as a grammer school science teacher.  No previous teaching expereince at all . Starting pay? $65000.00  with the incentives and another bonus and up pays, she take over $70K home for her first year teaching.
given she's got 3 months off (As well as the shool year holidays), and the union pensions, and the benifits....I am stunned.   Ever wonder why it costs $400,000 to get a starter home in MA? Well, cops and teachers make 70K and we have a billion dollar leaking tunnel, and fat drunk senators.

MA. the land of Hacks.


(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j61/GodlikeMoron/KerryandKennedyRousedbyClintonSpeac.jpg)
at least in ths photo they have thier pants on.
Title: Re: vegas help
Post by: wmccall on November 30, 2006, 11:26:28 am
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I don't begruge folks making some cash, and I respect the police, but the $#%#$%#$ Unions that got that law through are corrupt bast@ards raping the tax payer.


 


One of my favorite union stories - I was in a cable making plant somewhere in KY I think.  This plant made big heavy cable that lays in the ocean and is about 8" in diameter and weighs about 10 pounds a foot.  It moves real slow down the line and it spools on to a take up reel that is about 10 feet in diamater.  They use to have a person at the end of the line who would walk the cable back and forth so it didn't all bunch up on one end of the spool     She made $20.00/ hour just to do that.  The company bought a piece of equipment to do her job, but the union, wouldn't let them eliminate her job.  Occasionally they would have to work weekends to fill government orders.  She would make $30/hour on Saturdays and $40 on Sundays to pretend she was working.  She should be able to afford even a thermospa!
Title: Re: vegas help
Post by: drewstar on November 30, 2006, 11:31:03 am
Actually she sounds more like a "Super High End" customer who is super educated and can buy one of Numbnuts $14000 rebranded POS.     ;D

Title: Re: vegas help
Post by: drewstar on November 30, 2006, 11:51:23 am
Oh, if you don't want to wave a flag to get cars to drive around a pot hole, or babysit teach kids, you can always get a job taking quarters in our toll booths.

It's hard work, but you'll be making $75000 a year. More if you qualify for thier worker bonus incentives.  My Favorite is "$5000" for not being rude to drivers.   Not a bonus for being extra nice, or helpful, but if you "Are Not rude" you get the nice little extra kiss in your paycheck! Yay! Go MA.

Title: Re: vegas help
Post by: Brewman on November 30, 2006, 12:26:52 pm
As goofy as the government is here in the Land Of 10,000 taxes where nothing is allowed, I can always think of good O'l MA and feel better.

That picture gives me the willies.

 I think Kennedy should be in the "How the hell has he managed to stay alive" club, you know- the one with Keith Richards in it.  

 Maybe all the bad luck that John and Robert had, is being made up for in Teddy?
Title: Re: vegas help
Post by: drewstar on November 30, 2006, 12:32:54 pm
For Brewman:

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j61/GodlikeMoron/kennedy.jpg)


Title: Re: vegas help
Post by: Brewman on November 30, 2006, 01:34:20 pm
That a bottle of Chivas Regal?

Title: Re: vegas help
Post by: bosco0633 on November 30, 2006, 02:37:42 pm
I think the traffic work you are reffering to is called a paid duty or extra duty.  This means that companines hire police officers to work for them at a premium rate.  

Before I joined a city force, I worked for the Provincial police as a highway cop.  Many of my paid duties were from construction companies that needed to do road work.  I made alot in extra pay, but I still pay taxes on it.

I disagree that it is a waste of time, and the only reason why is because of a situation I was involved several years ago.  Major construction in our area usually takes place at night.  One night, a company decided that they didnt need the police to assist with a lane closure.  They started at 11pm and the paid duty was scheduled to start at 12am.

Well, without the police visibility, traffic tends to continue at their normal higher than average speeds without due care and attention to their surroundings.  If you think this is false, I can honestly tell you, police presence deters traffic violations.  Watch the next time you are driving on the interstate and see a police car around.  Speeds change, signal lights suddenly work and road rage issues are not around.

Anyways back to my story.  The 4 lane highway began reducing to three lanes.  No Police car at the front shoulder with lights on.  Traffic continued at normal speeds.  Well A vehicle in the fast lane, approaches the lane closure at a high rate of speed.  He decides to change lanes quickly to the right without reducing his speed.  Well he cuts off a vehicle in that lane which loses control.  The vehicle crashes into the cement barrier and flips on the highway.  Ironically enough, I was travelling on the other side of the roadway as this is happening with another partner.  We stop, and see the vehicle fully engulf in flames.

The car is so hot that we cant get close enough to the car, instead we get to here a young lady screaming for her life.  I heard a woman burn alive that night.  It is something that will haunt me forever.  Had the constructino crew waited a little while longer, I honestly feel that the police presence could have prevented this incident.
Title: Re: vegas help
Post by: tanstaafl2 on November 30, 2006, 02:48:50 pm
If you like to move around from hotel to hotel then with the with the money saved on airfare get a small rental car and stay at a place like the Rio just off the strip.  It is nice and if you learn just a little bit about the back ways into the hotel parking lots you can get most anywhere pretty easily. No hotel parking lot charges a fee. Just don't ever get on the strip if you can avoid it as it is almost always a mess by mid afternoon. Of coure the walk from the parking deck to the casino isn't always a short one either.

Or there are even cheaper places that aren't bad. If I am there for a week I like to stay at one of the all suite hotels but I am not one for fancy hotel rooms as I don't spend much time in them anyway. But having your own fridge and microwave is a nice convenience.

This guide book has a section telling you how to get around town:
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http://www.wiley.com/WileyCDA/WileyTitle/productCd-0471790338.html

And then you can get to places like Hoover Dam or the Lake Las Vegas Resort area on your own. Heck, you could even get to the Liberace museum if you have a car. Can't miss something like that while you are in Vegas!
 8-)
Title: Re: vegas help
Post by: drewstar on November 30, 2006, 03:07:53 pm
Bosco,

The topic came about as a side question to "how much do police get paid. and some repsonse said "not much"

Here in MA, that's just not true. I just looked at the town reports for the city I grew up in. Out of the top 25 highest paid people in the city, the majority of them are police. Some make over $150,000.00 a year.  

Don't get me wrong, I have a lot or respect for the police, but here in MA the paid details, are out of control. It's abused.  I blame the unions.

I think there are times when a uniformed police officer is necessary, and I think there are times where it's a joke, and a work truck with flashers on and a flag man would be fine.   Yes, the companies pay for the detail, but since this is a public works project  and the cost is just billed to the commonwealth. (ie me).

So once agian, do cops make a lot of money? Here in MA,  They are some of the top paid people.
Title: Re: vegas help
Post by: bosco0633 on November 30, 2006, 03:29:31 pm
no arguement from me.  I make approx 25000 to 30000 a year in paid duties and overtime.  Its great, but it is not like being a fire fighter.  Every firefighter I know has a side buisness.  Its incredible.

We too post the city employees who make over 100,000.00 a year.  Several are infact police, but overtime is still work, not for everyone.  It was for me last year for basement and hot tub and two trips to Europe.  This year, not so much.

Paid duties here are usually by buisness not government contracts.  150000 is alot of coin.  I spoke with a NYPD officer in Manhattan last year and he told me that they get paid according to where they work.  Manhattan cops only make 42000.00 a year where as officers in the suburbs make upwards of 120,000.00 a year.  

Its incredible and unfair, should be standard accross the board but with 40,000 officers it would be hard to pay all those salaries.
Title: Re: vegas help
Post by: drewstar on November 30, 2006, 03:36:29 pm
Playing poker tomorrow night with one of my firemen friends.  Yes, he does well too. He was breaking my heart last time as he was telling me the Subzero fridge in his new gourmet kitchen broke. (he has a nice Tiger river siberian on his deck, overlooking his built in pool).  they make thier money from the side jobs, being able to double up on thier shifts. funny most I met do alarms, carpet measuring and contracting on the side.
Title: Re: vegas help
Post by: Mendocino101 on December 01, 2006, 04:22:03 pm
The Monte Carlo would be something to consider as would the Paris if you can get a deal there that would be your best bet as it is closer to the super high end Hotels and if you get the right room location you can view the fountain shows from the Belliao from your room , if you can make it happend than its very very nice for maybe the right price.
Title: Re: vegas help
Post by: Campsalot on December 05, 2006, 09:35:20 am
Bosco, check out the Red Rock Casino and lodge.  This place is beautiful and very affordable because it is located off the strip.  Their tables (BJ) are also very generous.  I was there in April and won 3G's in their high stakes room playing 100.00 a hand.  Normally I would never do that but I was with a buddy and we were both somewhat less cautious (read Gin) then normal.  We played for hours (read Gin) and did do well.  
The Red Rock really is great though and cab fair to the strip was cheap.  Your wife wil love the rooms and the fact that the hotel a fantastic spa.
Here is the link http://www.redrocklasvegas.com/index.php
Title: Re: vegas help
Post by: LtDan on December 05, 2006, 11:04:41 am
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Generally speaking, police are under payed. At least around here they are. And with Canadians the exchange rate is not in their favor.

I dont' know if Lt dan would agree (he works for a suburb)  But the Columbus PD's pay starts low, but with a few years of senority it goes up to respectable pretty fast.  Those suburb cops can afford Jacuzzi's!

Our patrol officers bottom, entry level pay is 34k per year, but with experience they start at 44.6k. After two years, they are at top step, in 2006 that is a base pay of 65k. Combined with holiday pay, shift differential, lots of OT we have several officers making over 90k. Good retirement, great benefits, except for the car wrecks, dead bodies and other unpleasantries it is a great job.