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Original => Hot Tub Forum => Topic started by: SJK on August 22, 2005, 09:48:51 pm

Title: Need advice on emptying tub.
Post by: SJK on August 22, 2005, 09:48:51 pm
I started draining my tub for the first time tonight and its taking forever.  The dealer told me two hours but it's at three and counting and I'd like to go to bed sometime tonight.  My question is, can I leave it empty overnight and scrub and refill it in the morning?  Is their any danger of screwing up pumps or seal if it dries out overnight?
Title: Re: Need advice on emptying tub.
Post by: bob5820 on August 22, 2005, 10:02:40 pm
Go to bed, your seals will be fine.
Title: Re: Need advice on emptying tub.
Post by: Brewman on August 23, 2005, 08:01:48 am
Just don't run the tub without water ;)

If you want to speed up the drain process, try a larger size drain hose.  I use a 3/4" garden hose on my spa, but I had it on hand already- to feed my pressure washer.  Some dealers sell quick drain kits.  Some people use submersible pumps to really drain fast.  

Brewman
Title: Re: Need advice on emptying tub.
Post by: Rayman on August 23, 2005, 08:08:47 am
I drained mine 3 times in a month, once by myself using the drain plug and 3/4 inch hose..it took all night.  The other 2 times it was the dealer who drained it with a quick wand and it took less than 1/2 hour.  I don't know how much those things cost but I will be investigating it for myself, they must be less than $100.

Ray
Title: Re: Need advice on emptying tub.
Post by: nicker on August 23, 2005, 09:46:03 am
I am lucky and have  a 1 1/2 inch drain and my tub drains in about 1/2 hour.  My buddy only has the 1/2 in drain and man does it take for ever.  He used a hose and did a syphon technique and it worked well.  Drained his tub in about 1 hour.  If it took me 3 or more hours to drain my tub Id be investing in some form of pump.  I can have my tub drained cleaned and refilled in under 2 hours.
Title: Re: Need advice on emptying tub.
Post by: Ruby on August 23, 2005, 09:59:05 am
I do both, I hook up 1 hose to the drain and use another hose to syphon out of the top.  From the time I start draining to the time my tub is refilled I think is about 3 hours if I remember correctly.  I suppose it would be even quicker to use 3 hoses. Hmm... I'll have to try it next time.
Title: Re: Need advice on emptying tub.
Post by: johnvb on August 23, 2005, 09:59:19 am
Of course, if your tub does take a long time to drain, and you don't want to invest in some kind of pump, you can always do it the old fashion way...add extra hoses over the rim and siphon it out, along with the hose drain. Instead of sucking the hose with your mouth to get them started, use water from an outside outlet, to "charge" the line with water (flushing out all the air), then disconnect and let her rip.
Title: Re: Need advice on emptying tub.
Post by: Brewman on August 23, 2005, 10:03:53 am
Guess I'm lucky here, with the 3/4" hose, my 500 gallons is gone in about an hour, maybe less.
Brewman
Title: Re: Need advice on emptying tub.
Post by: ebirrane on August 23, 2005, 10:20:44 am
I thought I read on here someone purchases either a sump pump or fountain pump to aid in the hot tub draining. Might be worth checking out.

-Ed
Title: Re: Need advice on emptying tub.
Post by: drewstar on August 23, 2005, 10:27:37 am
I use a small pump to aid in draining the tub. I'm not sure of the brand, but it's something like this:

http://www.shop.com/op/aprod-~pony+pump-p7975125


They are a very handy thing to have around the house.  :)
Title: Re: Need advice on emptying tub.
Post by: bulmer4nc on August 23, 2005, 10:31:28 am
We use a sump pump hose that I got at Home Depot for around $10.

I run the hose into the yard and put the hose into the tub.  I turn on the whirlpool jet full blast and hold the hose in front of it.  It gets a really good flow going.  After about 10 seconds or so I kill the power and gravity does the rest.  

Our tub is close to 500 gallons and we empty in 15 minutes this way.
Title: Re: Need advice on emptying tub.
Post by: Vinny on August 23, 2005, 10:36:25 am
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We use a sump pump hose that I got at Home Depot for around $10.

I run the hose into the yard and put the hose into the tub.  I turn on the whirlpool jet full blast and hold the hose in front of it.  It gets a really good flow going.  After about 10 seconds or so I kill the power and gravity does the rest.  

Our tub is close to 500 gallons and we empty in 15 minutes this way.


This is what I do too!

It's cheap and quick!!
Title: Re: Need advice on emptying tub.
Post by: Backpains on August 23, 2005, 01:03:25 pm
How we drained our tub..is we have a hose that is really old, hubby has fixed leaks in it about 5 times, so he takes it apart (it's hooked together by repair kits) and waaaa laaa we have 5 seperate hoses to siphon water from the tub. Takes about 15 min to drain then the rest of the water that is in the tub I drain with an old fashioned cup and bucket till my back tells me I can't do no more and hubby yells at me to get out of the tub that I'm only going to make my back worse! Anyway that's another story for another day!
Title: Re: Need advice on emptying tub.
Post by: Rayman on August 23, 2005, 01:21:32 pm
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How we drained our tub..is we have a hose that is really old, hubby has fixed leaks in it about 5 times, so he takes it apart (it's hooked together by repair kits) and waaaa laaa we have 5 seperate hoses to siphon water from the tub. Takes about 15 min to drain then the rest of the water that is in the tub I drain with an old fashioned cup and bucket till my back tells me I can't do no more and hubby yells at me to get out of the tub that I'm only going to make my back worse! Anyway that's another story for another day!

I am not familiar with your tub but why do you need a bucket, is there no floor drain.  If not how much water can still be left that you would care about it before filling it back up, I mean 1 gallon or so against 399 gallons fresh shouldn't make much difference should it???

Ray
Title: Re: Need advice on emptying tub.
Post by: tonyp on August 23, 2005, 04:23:36 pm
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We use a sump pump hose that I got at Home Depot for around $10.

I run the hose into the yard and put the hose into the tub.  I turn on the whirlpool jet full blast and hold the hose in front of it.  It gets a really good flow going.  After about 10 seconds or so I kill the power and gravity does the rest.  

Our tub is close to 500 gallons and we empty in 15 minutes this way.


Same here.  Sump Pump hose is basically pool hose - so that would work just as well.   Then I use a shop vac to empty the water from the seats etc.
Title: Re: Need advice on emptying tub.
Post by: bobhol on August 24, 2005, 06:33:50 pm
I use my pool vac hose with the vac head on it to drain and vacuum the bottom of the spa. First I place the hose over an active jet and as the tub siphons ,I turn off the tub,slip the vac head on and drain the tub in about 30 minutes as I vacuum the bottom .All but an inch or so of water will drain,so a bailer or shop vac is needed .Works great for me.....bobhol
Title: Re: Need advice on emptying tub.
Post by: Brewman on August 25, 2005, 08:26:13 am
A cheap and suprisingly effective bailer can be made by cutting the bottom off of a bleach bottle, leaving the cap on the other end.  
Brewman
Title: Re: Need advice on emptying tub.
Post by: Backpains on August 25, 2005, 11:32:17 am
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I am not familiar with your tub but why do you need a bucket, is there no floor drain.  If not how much water can still be left that you would care about it before filling it back up, I mean 1 gallon or so against 399 gallons fresh shouldn't make much difference should it???

Ray


Ray;

I'm very very picky about clean fresh water..I want almost every ounce of water out of the tub before I refill it. BUT......I can't get it all out and it leaves a little of the cleaner that I use on the bottom of the tub...this bothers me..I like it to be clean and ready to refill. If I'm wrong in being through in my cleaning efforts then I'm wrong
Title: Re: Need advice on emptying tub.
Post by: orlandoguy on August 25, 2005, 01:43:32 pm
I bought the battery operated pump from Spa Depot and it claims to drain fast, but I won't know for a few months when I need to drain again.

I got nervous about the hot water and chemicals hurting my St Augustine sod so i ran the hose to the street the first time but found the seats filled with water the first time.
Title: Re: Need advice on emptying tub.
Post by: drewstar on August 25, 2005, 02:07:33 pm
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Ray;

I'm very very picky about clean fresh water..I want almost every ounce of water out of the tub before I refill it. BUT......I can't get it all out and it leaves a little of the cleaner that I use on the bottom of the tub...this bothers me..I like it to be clean and ready to refill. If I'm wrong in being through in my cleaning efforts then I'm wrong


If your tub doesn't have a floor drain,  most pool supply places sell what they call a "Cover pump". I haven't used this type, but It's like the small electric pumps we've talked about here, but the have an attachment that lets them sit flat on a surface and allows you drain down  almost completely. Any remaining water could be wiped up with a towel.


Title: Re: Need advice on emptying tub.
Post by: Backpains on August 25, 2005, 02:32:02 pm
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If your tub doesn't have a floor drain,  most pool supply places sell what they call a "Cover pump". I haven't used this type, but It's like the small electric pumps we've talked about here, but the have an attachment that lets them sit flat on a surface and allows you drain down  almost completely. Any remaining water could be wiped up with a towel.


Drew where would I find one of these? Hubby and I discussed getting a sump pump for this winter seems right now at this point and time it's been every 3 weeks on the drain.

Title: Re: Need advice on emptying tub.
Post by: drewstar on August 25, 2005, 03:15:51 pm
I've seen them at pool supply  stores, you may even find one home depot.   I am sure your spa dealer might know.

It's a small submersuble pump with the intake on the bottom so it drains that extra inch out.  The ones on the net sell for about $129.

http://www.marine.com/product_info.php/products_id/2321


Honestly? I use a small electric pony pump (see one of my previous posts) that gets all the water out except for about the last 2.5 inches.  I bail the rest out with a cup. takes about 10 minutes to bail the remaining water out.

I think I might try syphoning it out with a large diameter sump pump hose as another poster recomeded. Seemed pretty quick.

:)