Hot Tub Forum
Original => Hot Tub Forum => Topic started by: Campsalot on July 27, 2005, 05:43:11 pm
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Does anyone have anything to say about the Sundance Aromatherapy thing. Check out this link: http://sundancespas.com/Therapy/Aromatherapy.html
I have a Sundance Maxxus, I added this aromatherapy (Green Apple) thing to our air blower deal and guess what? Not a thing! Is my nose broke our are there others who think this is a load of you know what.
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We have been using it in our Optima, IMHO it barely works. The aroma seems to hang right at the top of the water line, so you need to sink down low to get the full effect.
We always joke that they engineered it to help one cover up an unexpected...uh you know, (ever see the scene from the Ren and Stimpy cartoon where Ren's in the bathtub, making his own bubbles?);D
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A good friend of mine has a cameo. He states using the air blower aroma therapy he smells something for about 5 minutes and then it goes away.
Some scents are easier to detect than others. Any chance your tub is in the middle of a green apple orchard?
There are plenty of other products that you just pour into the tub which last a little longer if the air blower isn't doing it for ya.
-Ed
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I don't think it's just Sundance, it seems that the aromatherapy feature doesn't work well in any brand. I've read a lot of people asking that question - it may also be the type of beads you use.
My tub doesn't have a blower system but one of the tubs I was interested came with one and thought it was a great idea, until I read differently.
BTW, for what it's worth, a friend of mine used the "add to water" fragrance and it screwed up his water as per him.
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I agree, the aromatherapy is a nice selling point, but just doesn't seem to work. We've tried a couple of different scents in our Optima and haven't smelled a thing. I think I'll put the rest in my car. is this a new feature with Sundance?
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When I wet tested the optima the sales man put in some beads to me no smell he said it from the great filtration of sundance. ok? I liked the optima alot but the aromatherapy is way over rated. still a great spa.
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I'm not overly impressed with the aroma beads on our Optima, either. Some friends bought a Sweetwater this past spring (No aroma chamber) and just put a little bit of scent in the water. Now that we could detect, and it lasted pretty much thru the entire time we were in the spa. Can't remember the name of the product, I think it was Spazazz Crystals, or something.
Brewman
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OK, so this goes under the "deaq horse" column. The aromatheraphy that stems fromk the blower on Sundance models does not work well. I would like to hear more about the kind of aromas you can add to the water. Will it screw up the chemistry. This is a good discussion!
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my marquis dealer sells the spazzzaz and he says that it does not affect the filters. he added some crystals in to the water and it smelled like a pina colada.
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We also use the spazazz stuf, either in the bottle or in single-use packs. It has had no negative effect on water chemistry. We use MPS and chlorine.
Our dealer states that they only sell the aromatherapy oils that are "compatible" with our chems. Presumably, this means that others are not and were we to buy something else somewhere else, without research, it could negatively effect the chemistry.
-Ed
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Hopefully, anything made specifically for spa use would be ok to put in the water. I'd expect that the spa dealers I patronize would have checked into that as well.
Brewman
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I guess the one advantage the Sundance system has over the water based stuff is one can turn the smell on/off (unless you use the blower all the time)
And I rather it be barley noticeable than overwhelming.
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The aromatherapy system does work. Each individual cartridge only lasts approximately an hour of blower time. Therefore, if you have the blower on for 15 minutes at a time, that's 4 uses.
Because this sort of aromatherapy system does not interfere with the chemistry of the spa it is a fantastic system. Also, by adding liquids or crystals to the water, the water smells, so you also smell like the scent, My girlfriend might like that but I don't wanna smell like jasmine. I've only had one customer who didn't like it and used a liquid for therapy. When they brought in their water sample the following day, it was destroyed. I mean the water was real bad :-[.
If the spa is outside, and if there is a slight breeze, the aromatherapy is 'gone with the wind'. My SD is inside in a sunroom. I barely use it but when I do I can clearly get whatever scent I put in. I especially like vanilla.
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I've only had one customer who didn't like it and used a liquid for therapy. When they brought in their water sample the following day, it was destroyed. I mean the water was real bad :-
The rooster crows before the sun comes up too. Does that mean the sun comes up because the rooster crows?
I have sold thousands of bottles of liquid and crystal aromas. There are two negatives to these products:
1)They, like anything you add to the water, raise the TDS
2) If the water is not balanced it may cause foaming
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We carry the Being scents and used to carry Spazazz. I like the way they smell when used in moderation. Unfortunately, most people put way too much in and it can become overwhelming. It also tends to cloud up the water and gunks up the filters.
Use sparingly and your soaking experience will be much more pleasurable.
Terminator
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Ok, I'll stay away from the type of scents you add to the water. I'll also check out other scents for the Sundance system. Perhaps Green Apple simply does not have the "smelly power" that some of the other Sundance scents do. I'll keep trying.
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IF you are going to use the aroma therapy feature, buy some essential oil and saturate the beads and reuse them. Use the beads as the delivery system and re-load with essential oils.
Spazazz crystals are great, they do have muscel relaxants and anti inflamatory's in them. Eventually they too will be filtered out. Who know's, if you use the right scent you might even get lucky. ;D
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The aromatherapy system does work. Each individual cartridge only lasts approximately an hour of blower time.
In my friends cameo a brand new cartridge gave about 5 minutes of fragrance, then nothing. You should have seen us wandering the tub to try and find the fragrance. I got some by putting my nose right to the water line, but the bubbles kept pushing water into my nose.
Because this sort of aromatherapy system does not interfere with the chemistry of the spa it is a fantastic system. Also, by adding liquids or crystals to the water, the water smells, so you also smell like the scent, My girlfriend might like that but I don't wanna smell like jasmine. I've only had one customer who didn't like it and used a liquid for therapy. When they brought in their water sample the following day, it was destroyed. I mean the water was real bad :-[.
That pretty much is the polar opposite of my experience with the stuff. I'm sure there must be some liquid fragrances that can mess up some chemistry regimes, but the ones my dealers sells and OK's do no such damage, and don't leave extra odors on the people.
Instead of selling against it, try it. My friend-cameo-owners abandoned the fragrance cartridges for the liquid stuff with no ill effect. I don't think the presence of liquid fragrances would put too much of a damper on the blower sales pitch.
-Ed
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We still use the blower, but without the unscented beads. We just bought a bottle of Spazazz crystals (lavender) and we'll see how it goes. Water was just changed about 2 weeks ago, so I can monitor what impact, if any, the crystals have.
Brewman
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I think earlier I said we uses spazazz. My bad, we don't use that, although I'm sure its a fine product. We use something called "inSPAration" fragrances:
http://www.insparation.com/NineOunceBottles.htm
Their advertizing says they contain no alcohol and they will not affect water chemistry. From their website:
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Tested by Dupont, Aristech and other leading acrylic manufactures, inSPAration is proven to be safe for all Spa, Hot Tub and Whirlpool Bath surfaces. Ideal for masking those unwanted chemical odors, and inSPAration will not cause foaming or affect water chemistry. inSPAration contains no alcohol and is completely water-soluble.
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-Ed
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We still use the blower, but without the unscented beads. We just bought a bottle of Spazazz crystals (lavender) and we'll see how it goes. Water was just changed about 2 weeks ago, so I can monitor what impact, if any, the crystals have.
Brewman
What is you reaction?
Smell stronger than SunScents?
Water chems not ruined?
Overall, does anyone know if cystals or liquids are better?
Thanks,
Mary
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I like the crystals, no personal experience with the liquids. The scent of the crystals is more noticable than the beads. Plus you can control the scent by how much you add. So far water quality with them- but they are made for spa use, so I'd hope their impact on the water would be minimal.
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There is nothing better than the smell of Dichlor in the morning. It smells like Victory.
/ok. I just watched Apocolapse Now. Sorry. ;D
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"Charlie don't surf!"
Terminator
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I hate to raise a dead thread, so I'm sorry if this is not helpful for others. It piqued my interest, though, as we wet tested a Sundance this weekend, and very quickly I noticed a smell, and my wife had a stronger reaction to it (just did not like the smell). Sure enough there were aroma beads in the Optima. Dealer took them out for us (we just weren't fans of that scent, would likely use something like eucalyptus, though).
Long story short, in a newer Optima, we definitely noticed the aromatherapy - the last post in here is super old, are there other more recent data points on whether the aromatherapy is useful?