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Original => Hot Tub Forum => Topic started by: NDfar on June 21, 2005, 09:00:26 am

Title: Mosquito’s
Post by: NDfar on June 21, 2005, 09:00:26 am
Boy are the mosquito’s bad here! :P Just about need a breathing tube to go under water to get away from them ;)  What do you do for mosquito’s control?  I know there are some areas that don't have them so moving is out of the question at this time :D   I might need to get a screen tent to put around the tub.  I tried spraying last night but they still came.  I closed my cover so it was sitting at about a 45 degee angle and they didn't like coming under there, I guess the chemicals keep them away.  I asked my dealer when we first got the tub and they said they never had a problem. ???  Boy are they wrong.  Well the first hatch is on so maybe they will slow down.
Title: Re: Mosquito’s
Post by: JcDenton on June 21, 2005, 09:09:53 am
I am just north of you NDfar in Manitoba - and yes, the mosquito's are brutal. We have had a long, wet, soggy spring and are just now getting some clear, hot temps. With all the water lying around (our house backs onto a forest) and the combined heat you couldn't ask for better breeding conditions.

This is our first summer with the tub and already we have noticed that the mosquito's are going to be a problem. I had thought that once inside the tub we'd be alright, but was quite wrong. We are running a mosquito magnet and are hoping that this really takes a dent out of them. Other than that, our soaks have been a little shorter lately. :(

Other than a gazebo of some sort I'm not sure what you could really do. I do not want to block my view of the sky and the forest so for us this is out of the question. We'll just have to wait it out I guess - winter should be around again in these parts in a few weeks right?  ;)

Good luck and let me know if anything you try works!

Jc
Title: Re: Mosquito’s
Post by: drewstar on June 21, 2005, 09:20:16 am
Some of the Pool/Spa/Patio places I've been to are selling the Misquti Magnets and Deleto's.  (propoane fueled Co2 generator ) to trap the mosiquitos.  I've seen these units sell for $400-1200 dollars depending on size.

Does anyone here have one? Or perhaps some of the store owners here carry them? I'd be very interested in hearing your experices with it.
Title: Re: Mosquito’s
Post by: JcDenton on June 21, 2005, 09:38:09 am
Yes, we purchased a Mosquito Magnet last summer, but I cannot give you a fair assessment just yet. We got it during the tail end of summer and have not yet used it for the entire duration.

We are very curious to see what happens. In the short time that we did use it last year, I can tell you - it works. In just a few weeks, our little magnet had captured enough female mosquito's to fill a large ziplock bag!

In order for the magnet to be effective, it takes about 4-6 weeks to really make a difference. It traps the female mosquitos and thus reduces the breeding potential. Since mosquitos do not migrate, once you have done this your immediate area should be/supposed to be realatively mosquito free. I sure hope so!

Jc
Title: Re: Mosquito’s
Post by: Rayman on June 21, 2005, 09:41:54 am
If you are going to run the magnet make sure it is far away from the tub cause the C02 and heat attracts them first then traps them, but you are also giving off C02 and the tub is generating lots of heat amking for the perfect breeding ground.  I use the fogger, fog early in the morning to kill off the adults or just before dark.
Title: Re: Mosquito’s
Post by: obi wan on June 21, 2005, 09:42:41 am
i am also very interested in anyones experience with the propane tank type mosquito traps. been looking at epinions, and other reveiw sites. seems to be about 70pro/30con split. they work great or they are a waste of money.
anybody here actually have one??? does it work?
here in se VA the bug experts are predicting record setting mosquitos this year......
Title: Re: Mosquito’s
Post by: obi wan on June 21, 2005, 09:47:00 am
how often do you change the propane tank?
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Yes, we purchased a Mosquito Magnet last summer, but I cannot give you a fair assessment just yet. We got it during the tail end of summer and have not yet used it for the entire duration.

We are very curious to see what happens. In the short time that we did use it last year, I can tell you - it works. In just a few weeks, our little magnet had captured enough female mosquito's to fill a large ziplock bag!

In order for the magnet to be effective, it takes about 4-6 weeks to really make a difference. It traps the female mosquitos and thus reduces the breeding potential. Since mosquitos do not migrate, once you have done this your immediate area should be/supposed to be realatively mosquito free. I sure hope so!

Jc

Title: Re: Mosquito’s
Post by: drewstar on June 21, 2005, 09:55:29 am
I've heard similliar reports to Obi Wan. Either love it or they are a waste.  Most of the problems I've read about occur into the 2nd and 3rd year of use and involve failure of the "ignitor".  Anyone use one for 2+ years?

Does anyone know why the price difference?  I've seen 1/2 acre models priced around $400, and i belive full acre modelsfor about $500, and then I saw a 1.5 acre unit (I think) retail for $1200? That seems to be a huge jump.


How much propane do these use per season?



Title: Re: Mosquito’s
Post by: drewstar on June 21, 2005, 10:03:44 am
Ndfar,

I live in N.E  in the woods and have some misquito issues as well.  I have moderate luck with tiki torches around the tub filled with the cintronela oil.   Adds a nice touch at night, but there is a saftey factor.
Title: Re: Mosquito’s
Post by: obi wan on June 21, 2005, 10:08:26 am
most of the reports where people say the work great seem to be about 1 tank used every 3 weeks or so. here in my neck of the woods, a tank refill is $14. works out to about $20 month to run it. that would be money well spent(with pleasure) ....... IF it works.
i am merely hoping to make my yard enjoyable. my whole lot is less than 1/2 acre, so back yard is roughly 1/4 or 1/5 of an acre.
now if i could talk several neighbors to also get them, we might be onto something........
FYI... "wallymart" has a 1/2 acre mosquito deleto "system" for $190. the system includes 2 tabletop mosquito repellant devices.
think i am going to give it a shot. can always be returned if it doesn't work....
Title: Re: Mosquito’s
Post by: JcDenton on June 21, 2005, 10:15:43 am
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now if i could talk several neighbors to also get them, we might be onto something


From my research, I understand that mosquitos are not migratory. That is, once you reduce the population in your immediate area you should notice significant results. Only your closest neighbours should matter and only if you have a moderate size lot and are in close proximity to them.


And yes, we change our tank every 21 days. There are also scent accelerants that you can use to attract the buggers for additional $$
Title: Re: Mosquito’s
Post by: Backpains on June 21, 2005, 10:18:50 am
That's why I decided that it would be best to enclose the whole damn thing!  ;) The Spring was unusually slow for mosquito's but I think now that the heat is here it's going to be a god send that I decided to enclose it!

My mom and dad always told me "never can have too much protection" I think since I've got a bad back and don't get to do "that" very often....that this will be a good quote for the sketters
Title: Re: Mosquito’s
Post by: J._McD on June 21, 2005, 10:28:59 am
Love em or hate em, the 30% that hate em usually have them in the wrong wind pattern or placement.  They have proven to be very effective but there is a lot of confusion as to where is the best placement.  Basic rule is, you want the mosquitos to catch the C2O of the magnet and not yours.

Different models have different limitations requiring electrical hook up.  The more expensive models are completely freestanding and independent.

We had a problem with our "ignitor" type mosquito magnet.  I sent it back to Frontgate and paid for the upgrade to the newer version when "Mosquito Magnet" would not do anything for me, can you imagine that.  

We are still working on just the right place to put it.  I notice copies or "knock off's" showing up now at discounter such as Sam's and Costco.  We had contacted "Mosquito Magnet" about becoming a dealer.  They were not interested in dealers, they were more interested in wholesaler's and mass distributors.

We had hoped to get them and provide them free with the purchase of a spa.  That didn't work out, they were more interested in mass markets.  Lot's of luck on negotiating a price on this desireable item, they do not want their product discounted.  

Title: Re: Mosquito’s
Post by: drewstar on June 21, 2005, 10:38:50 am
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We had a problem with our "ignitor" type mosquito magnet.  I sent it back to Frontgate and paid for the upgrade to the newer version when "Mosquito Magnet" would not do anything for me, can you imagine that.  




J-McD, what model do you have?
Title: Re: Mosquito’s
Post by: wmccall on June 21, 2005, 12:48:08 pm
I'm in a more urban enviorment, but 4 citronella torches work good enough for me.   That and make sure there is no standing water around.  We are off to a dry spring here.
Title: Re: Mosquito’s
Post by: J._McD on June 21, 2005, 02:32:30 pm
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J-McD, what model do you have?

I got the "Pro" model which is independent and free standing.  I am still working on the optimum placement and would consider myself bordering that 30% category.  I know it works because I am capturing some in the netting, but boy do I hear about it if my wife gets a bite.  I just tell her that she is more attractive. ;D ;D
Title: Re: Mosquito’s
Post by: spahappy on June 21, 2005, 04:06:31 pm
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most of the reports where people say the work great seem to be about 1 tank used every 3 weeks or so. here in my neck of the woods, a tank refill is $14. works out to about $20 month to run it. that would be money well spent(with pleasure) ....... IF it works.
i am merely hoping to make my yard enjoyable. my whole lot is less than 1/2 acre, so back yard is roughly 1/4 or 1/5 of an acre.
now if i could talk several neighbors to also get them, we might be onto something........
FYI... "wallymart" has a 1/2 acre mosquito deleto "system" for $190. the system includes 2 tabletop mosquito repellant devices.
think i am going to give it a shot. can always be returned if it doesn't work....


Coleman makes the mosquito deleto, the same ones Walmart sells.  They do work! I have an acre but am really only concerned with the area around the house and spa.

I have two deletos and four inhibitors. I'm going on my second summer with them and without them I wouldn't be able to be outside.....

It takes about two weeks because thats how long it takes to kill the new hatches. Start now for the 4th of July.
Title: Re: Mosquito’s
Post by: obi wan on June 21, 2005, 04:20:29 pm
do you have the bargain model (about $200)? or a larger one?
i just found e-pinions reviews on the coleman deleto system. most of the vacuum trap type got the mixed reviews i mentioned earlier, but the entry level with no vacuum got slammed. 11 of 11 reviews were 1 of 1-5, and all said it doesnt work. several upgraded to larger models and say those do work.
?????????
Title: Re: Mosquito’s
Post by: NDfar on June 22, 2005, 12:33:44 am
I can't beleive the mosquito problem out there :P When the dealer said they never heard ot prooblems I wondered :o  I sprayed malathion again tonight because the neighbor was, and I told him of a product called tempo which I have used to at the lake cabin to keep spider away which also works very effective for the blood suckers and doesn't wash away in the rain as fast but cost more. ($32 for a pint but you use 1 oz per gallon water and there is no odor)  Alot of mosquito deletos/magnets use out there but not completly sold on it.  Found a 9 foot market umbrella for $30 and a mosquito net that drapes over it for another $30.  My tub has a table in the center that looks to be the size of a umbrella stand that fits a outdoor table with some mod could make it work.  Otherwise a 10X10 screen tent is a solution.  Also thinking of encloseing the whole tub area in with a clear roof :D :D  Hot here in ND finally, 90's for tomorrow and I have the rest of the week off after work and I am heading to Gods country ( southern Mn lake area) ;D :D   and won't be back till Sun night.  Hope to catch some walleye!! :D
Title: Re: Mosquito’s
Post by: aaahhh on June 23, 2005, 01:05:45 am
I am on my second season with my Coleman Mosquito Deleto. NO Problems.  I have wood's all around me and a creek with a pond in the back yard were my spa is located.  We all have a minimum of 2 acre lots in my sub-division and all lots are wooded. I go through only one YES one 20lb propane tank a season. And it run's 24-7

I get it going in May and the tank is empty by the midddle of September. I do not refill it, I will just wait for next year. My Deleto was checked today by me and it is working just fine. I am just about two months into this tank and all is well. I even see small birds feeding on dead buds on the sticky paper. I paid $168.00 at Menard's. The 20lb tank was extra. I live in northern Wisconsin and am 100% satisfied.
Title: Re: Mosquito’s
Post by: JcDenton on July 05, 2005, 06:59:47 pm
Just an update on my mosquito magnet. It has been like a Hoover out there in my yard! I need to empty the trap every 2-3 days as it becomes jammed full of those pesky buggers!

As for noticing a difference when we are out in the yard I couldn't tell ya. Unfortunately, my wife and I are working a lot in the evenings and are little oasis out-back has been neglected somewhat. We are, however, still using our tub at every given chance! I can't help but feel that we are making some definite progress though.

Anybody want to see a picture of all my mosquito's? ;D


Jc
Title: Re: Mosquito’s
Post by: Vinny on July 05, 2005, 07:08:11 pm
I have a friend who's neighbors (3 of them) have it and last summer he reaped the benefits of all of them using it. He claims that they do work and he could tell the difference.

Apparently in order for them to work, you really need to find the breeze patterns in your backyard and IF you find it - it really takes care of YOUR yard not your neighbors!

But JcDenton's got the proof that it does work!
Title: e don'tRe: Mosquito’s
Post by: Gomboman on July 05, 2005, 10:24:17 pm
What's a mosquito?  Sorry, we don't have them in my area of So. Cal.................. ;D
Title: Re: Mosquito’s
Post by: tonyp on July 05, 2005, 10:38:39 pm
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I am on my second season with my Coleman Mosquito Deleto. NO Problems.  I have wood's all around me and a creek with a pond in the back yard were my spa is located.  We all have a minimum of 2 acre lots in my sub-division and all lots are wooded. I go through only one YES one 20lb propane tank a season. And it run's 24-7

I get it going in May and the tank is empty by the midddle of September. I do not refill it, I will just wait for next year. My Deleto was checked today by me and it is working just fine. I am just about two months into this tank and all is well. I even see small birds feeding on dead buds on the sticky paper. I paid $168.00 at Menard's. The 20lb tank was extra. I live in northern Wisconsin and am 100% satisfied.


I'll have to set mine up when I get back from vacation.  Got it at 75% off at Target last fall.
Title: Re: Mosquito’s
Post by: doodoo on July 06, 2005, 09:58:11 am
That's why I love winter. No bugs.

We are also in an urban setting although we do back onto a forest. The skeeters were quite fierce two weeks ago but now seems to be much better. Citronella works here.
Title: Re: Mosquito’s
Post by: ebirrane on July 06, 2005, 10:34:30 am
Just in case anyone bought their Deleto between March 2002 and July 2002:


CPSC, The Coleman Company Announce Recall of Mosquito Traps

http://www.cpsc.gov/cpscpub/prerel/prhtml02/02200.html
Title: Re: Mosquito�s
Post by: shabba34 on July 06, 2005, 02:14:51 pm
My father has this system installed on his property, whether it works or not is yet to be seen....
http://www.mosquitonix.com/
Title: Re: e don'tRe: Mosquito’s
Post by: Backpains on July 06, 2005, 04:38:42 pm
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What's a mosquito?  Sorry, we don't have them in my area of So. Cal.................. ;D



Oh HUSH Gomboman! We have skeeters the size of flys around Wyoming! Boy was that a stretch!! hehehehehhee
Title: Re: e don'tRe: Mosquito’s
Post by: Lori on July 06, 2005, 07:26:18 pm
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Oh HUSH Gomboman! We have skeeters the size of flys around Wyoming! Boy was that a stretch!! hehehehehhee


Hey Backpains,

Gomboman is starting to sound like Chas!!!

::)