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General => General info Somewhat hot tub related => Topic started by: East_TX_Spa on September 19, 2006, 09:40:25 pm
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Somebody just tried to break into my store. I stopped by here on my way home from a softball game. I was working on a new Spa Wars installment and somebody was trying to break in the backdoor 6' away from me. I grabbed my .45 Sig and yelled "Get away from that damn door!" as loud as I could.
I then ran out on my deck and saw 2 white males running down the hill and across the road. I yelled as loud as I could that I would "Blow their blankin' heads off if they ever came back, you little co88su##%$4rs!" They kicked it in high gear and ran behind the Cingular cell phone center and, I'm sure, back to their slummy apartment complex.
Anyway, called the police, gave a description, they tried to find them, came and talked to me, and basically told me to do whatever I had to do if I feel threatened in the future.
I'm glad I live in Texas.
Good night, ya'll. Stay safe.
Chris O
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I'm glad that you are capable of protecting your property and self!!!
Sorry!! I bet they won't be back anytime soon!!!!
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I wish some of the cops around here would get that attitiude.
I bet our crime rate would go down a bit if just one story about a lawfully armed citizen thwarting a would be mugger or rapist would ever get reported.
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Somebody just tried to break into my store. I stopped by here on my way home from a softball game. I was working on a new Spa Wars installment and somebody was trying to break in the backdoor 6' away from me. I grabbed my .45 Sig and yelled "Get away from that damn door!" as loud as I could.
I then ran out on my deck and saw 2 white males running down the hill and across the road. I yelled as loud as I could that I would "Blow their blankin' heads off if they ever came back, you little co88su##%$4rs!" They kicked it in high gear and ran behind the Cingular cell phone center and, I'm sure, back to their slummy apartment complex.
Anyway, called the police, gave a description, they tried to find them, came and talked to me, and basically told me to do whatever I had to do if I feel threatened in the future.
I'm glad I live in Texas.
Good night, ya'll. Stay safe.
Chris O
Is that the second ammendment Tx? Here in Northern Minnesota it also keeps us safe.
I think I woulda cranker one or two off in the air just for kicks!
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God Bless Texas. Cops telling you to defend yourself. honestly, if MA police officer told a citizen to defend himself, I truley belive that police officer would be repamanded if not fired. Citizens here are sued for defending themselves. I really do fear the MA leaders and goverment and feel for the citizens of this commonwealth :-[
I am glad to hear you are ok.
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What's funny is that yesterday morning, I took my Walther P-99 and one of my AR-15's to the gun shop for some modifications, so I felt kind of naked with just the .45.
Anyway, I got a fairly good look at the little peckerheads. If I'd of thought about it quicker, I would of hit them with the 10,000,000 candlepower spotlight I have sitting on the shelf and took their picture! I guess I just weren't prepared. :-[
Terminator
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I really hate it when people think they can just steal from you. I used to work in audio, and some of the stories of people stealing during business hours, or breaking in at night can be quite amusing now, but when it happens you tend to want to shoot them, and then buy a bigger lock.
Nothing brings home the usefulness of a gun like someone invading your space, whether it be at home or at your business.
BTW, my favorite after hours break in story is the one where the guy used a roof jack to open the roof up and climb down. Once he got through the tar and tore open the metal with the roof jack, the hole was a bit jagged. In climbing down he cut himself up pretty good. The best part however is he cleared off a shelf in the back room and climbed out, but the shelf was the warranty shelf so he stole a couple armfulls of broken stereo equipment! To make it even funnier though, I was telling the story to my bowling team last year (the breakin was about 15 years ago) and one of my teammembers goes "Oh, that was Jack!".. I looked at him funny and he said that he was friends with the kid that did it.. knew the whole story from the thiefs perspective..
I have a few more good stories of incompetent thieves if anyone is interested.. its amazing how dumb people can be..
One more thing, while it would be tempting to fire a couple shots off to drive home the point to the would-be-thieves, you always gotta remember that the bullet will land someplace.. and nothing makes a bad night worse than by landing a bullet on top of someones head by mistake.
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One more thing, while it would be tempting to fire a couple shots off to drive home the point to the would-be-thieves, you always gotta remember that the bullet will land someplace.. and nothing makes a bad night worse than by landing a bullet on top of someones head by mistake.
Not to mention you would not be justified shooting in that case (at them or into the air) & would find yourself going from the "victim" in the first complaint to the "perp" in the second complaint.
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I thought you said I could stop by anytime, you didn't say the place had to be open.
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I thought you said I could stop by anytime, you didn't say the place had to be open.
If that truly was you, I have to admit that you can flat out pick em up and put em down when somebody's yelling bloody murder at you! ;D
Terminator
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I live in a beach neighborhood in CA, 2 blocks away from the "main drag" where all the bars are. I get drunks walking by my house all the time. I can't really complain, sometimes I'm one of the drunks.
Last week I had fallen asleep on the couch. At 2:15 am I am awoken when I hear my front gate open and close. I look at the clock. "Who the hell is in my front yard at 2:15am?"
My front fence is a 3' picket fence. On my front porch are 2 chairs and an empty cooler.
I look out the window and see an obviously drunk man opening my cooler. He must have thought there might be some beer in there. It was empty.
He starts to walk away, then he sees the chairs, and grabs one, and starts for the front gate.
I step out on the porch in my "South Park" boxer shorts and nothing else (not a pleasant site, as I sit at a computer all day) and yell "Leave the f***ng chair!"
He lamely says "sorry", puts it down, opens the gate and hurries away.
So, he see's the cooler, thinks he might score a beer. I can understand how a drunk guy might think that. But then, no beer, "Hmm, these are nice chairs..."
I don't get it.
I was awake for the next hour and a half. :)
-geekd
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In Texas, you could have legally shot that drunken SOB! :)
Terminator
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Terminator
Hey Term, glad to hear your OK with no loss of life or limb on your part. Thankfully, it wasn't some strung out crackhead with his own AK-47 and just some stupid kids.
The whole story just gets me pissed over our stupid Canadian gun laws, criminals have them but I can"t :(
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That's the result of gun laws (or so called gun control). Criminals don't obey the law anyway, so the gun control laws don't impact them. Gun laws are only followed by those of us who are law abiding in the first place, making those laws useless.
These laws are created and enacted by people who won't apply logic to their process.
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Ok, Term, I know you go for the real stuff....but if you had a paintball gun, you could have at least decorated your visitors. Not only are the paintballs colorful, they stink like fish...and sting like crazy...I think they are made from some sort of fish oil. So I think you need to "up your arsenal" and invest in a high power paintball gun! :o ;D ;D
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We had it happen here a while back. A home intruder was shot and killed, no charges filed.
I wish some of the cops around here would get that attitiude.
I bet our crime rate would go down a bit if just one story about a lawfully armed citizen thwarting a would be mugger or rapist would ever get reported.
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Ok, Term, I know you go for the real stuff....but if you had a paintball gun, you could have at least decorated your visitors. Not only are the paintballs colorful, they stink like fish...and sting like crazy...I think they are made from some sort of fish oil. So I think you need to "up your arsenal" and invest in a high power paintball gun! :o ;D ;D
Much safer to tag them with a "leadball" gun. Only problem is that the color choice is limited to red.
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Ok, Term, I know you go for the real stuff....but if you had a paintball gun, you could have at least decorated your visitors. Not only are the paintballs colorful, they stink like fish...and sting like crazy...I think they are made from some sort of fish oil. So I think you need to "up your arsenal" and invest in a high power paintball gun! :o ;D ;D
I almost did this in college when I caught some kids trying to lock me in my dorm room by jamming pennies in the door jam. I heard the noise, and when I went to open the door it stuck a little and the pennies went flying.. the kids went running down the hall.. I had just reassebled my paint gun and had it sitting right there.. unfortunately it only occurred to me about 5 minutes later that I should have shot them with it.. would have been perfect retaliation..
As far as a would be thief.. now that I think of it there would be no funner way to chase someone off than with a paintball gun.. they do sting good and can even draw blood quite easily, but dont cause enough damage that the person would sue you for it. Plus you can catch a running thief without having to run after them.. tag them a few times as they run off then call the cops and tell them to look for kids with paint all over them.. Of course they do learn better with a big hole through them, assuming of course they lived..
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I have always thought that I would like to have a contraption in my pocketbook that I could activate if someone ever took it...Like the bank does with the dye packets when they are robbed. Only my contraption would blow up enough to coat the robber in dye AND some disgusting sort of smell..that way they would be easily identified.
Can you imagine the satisfaction of being able to get even instantly with the goof that mugged you? Let them run a block or so and bam... ;D ;D
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I've actually got a full-auto Tokyo Marui airsoft gun sitting on the shelf here at the store. It fires 18 plastic BB's/second at around 300 ft/second. It's got a tracer unit that fires glow in the dark BB's that look EXACTLY like laser beams coming out.
This is it in the picture:
(http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b206/EastTexasSpa/Terminator.jpg)
Here's what they look like at night:
(http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b206/EastTexasSpa/tracer.jpg)
I could of had sooooo much fun that night if I'd thought a little quicker. But, to be honest, I was just concerned that I might actually have to shoot someone, and that's not something I hope to ever have to do. My customer that shot and killed the intruder in his home a few months back was justifiably acquitted of any wrongdoing, but it cost him a pretty penny in the process. I don't want to go through that unless it's the only way the situation can be resolved.
Terminator
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The rifle is an air soft gun? Did you paint the flash supressor?
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The rifle is an air soft gun? Did you paint the flash supressor?
The one in the picture is. It's an exact copy of my Colt SP-1.
The suppressor in the picture is actually the tracer unit for the airsoft gun. It has a strobe light inside that activates the glow-in-the-dark BB's as it passes through the tube. It is slicker than 2 oysters courting in a bucket of snot!
Terminator
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Term,
You are a fine example of the rugged indivdualism that made America great. You prevented a theft that the cops could only investigate. No crying and complaining about what the government didn't for you. Good work, but next time, let them in first.
;)
SB
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I appreciate your kind words Mr. Bird. I'm just an ol' goomer trying to protect my life, liberty, and the pursuit of spa sales and I sure don't need some little dipshits messing around my backdoor. :)
Terminator
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http://www.airgunsbbguns.com/tokyo_marui_airsoft_guns_s/270.htm
Looks like a fun toy.
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Here is what happened to me. I had to be at work at 4am. Around
2 am the police call me and ask me if I own a red Honda Accord - License # ------- . I said yes but dont remember all the numbers.
Well they say they found it on the other side of town. I said no - its in my garage - as that is where i left it. Our bedroom is over the garage. They insisted it was mine. So I go down stairs into my garage and sure enough my car is there. Just as I tell him, I hear in the background, "tell him it is not his - we typed in the wrong number"
I know they are doing there job but I wanted to kill them - lost and extra hour of sleep.
r100rs
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IOne more thing, while it would be tempting to fire a couple shots off to drive home the point to the would-be-thieves, you always gotta remember that the bullet will land someplace.. and nothing makes a bad night worse than by landing a bullet on top of someones head by mistake.
Anybody see mythbusters? If you shoot a bullet into the air once it looses its rotation from the rifling and turns towords the ground. It will only pick up speed based on it's weight and will not even penetrate the skin if it hits someone.
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There are many rules regarding gun safety, and if they are all followed carefully, mishaps can be avoided.
I consder these the big 4-
1. Treat all guns as if they are always loaded.
2. Don't point a gun at anything you don't intend to destroy.
3. Keep you finger off the trigger till you have the target sighted and are ready to
shoot.
4. Be sure of your backstop & Beyond. Consider where the bullet will go if you miss.
Texas probably has more permissive rules for defending one's property than we do here in Minnesota. We, especially those of us in the Minneapolis/St.Paul area and surrounding suburbs would be in pretty big trouble if we fired shots just to chase off burgulars. Warning shots and the like are forbidden by law here.
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Anybody see mythbusters? If you shoot a bullet into the air once it looses its rotation from the rifling and turns towords the ground. It will only pick up speed based on it's weight and will not even penetrate the skin if it hits someone.
Every week........ and the episode you're talking of determined that what you say is true ONLY if the bullet is shot ABSOLUTELY PERFECTLY straight up. When the bullet reaches it's peak, it then tumbles back to the ground, it's speed greatly reduced by air friction. If the trajectory is off ever so slightly, and is not perfectly straight up, the bullet will travel in an arc and come down with great velocity.
Term, go for the knee caps. A piece of string will stop the bleeding till the ambulance arrives, and it's unlikely they will come back, "walking" around the back of your building.
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When a bullet drops from the sky, having been shot up from the ground, terminal velocity would take over sooner or later.
I try and watch Mythbusters as often as I can. I like the show, especially when the test things with guns. Like shooting into water, catching a bullet in ones teeth, and making bullets out of ice.
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There are many rules regarding gun safety, and if they are all followed carefully, mishaps can be avoided.
I consder these the big 4-
1. Treat all guns as if they are always loaded.
#1 is the definitive answer, but I'd add a 1a, Know your weapon
I get so tired of hearing stories where its reported a person shoots themselves while cleaning what they thought was an unloaded weapon.
I probably know about 1/3 about firearms as many of you, but there isn't a civilian weapon made that I can not determine within 30 seconds if it is loaded or unloaded. That said, even though I know beyond any doubt that a weapon is unloaded, I still adhere to rule #1. Even to the point if I crack open a break apart shot gun, I will only look down the barrel from the chamber end.
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Good point, Bill, and I toned down the wording of rule #1. What I usually say instead is
ALL GUNS ARE ALWAYS LOADED.
Read any gun owners manual, and where the instructions for stripping and cleaning you'll find repeated, ad nauseum in some cases-
Check the chamber and verify that the gun is unloaded before proceeding-
or something similar.
I'm not very sympathetic when it comes to gun oopses. I consider someone who shoots themselves because they're not being careful just a way to thing the heard.
It's when they harm others that bothers me even more.
But it's all simple common sense. None of it requires a masters degree.
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Anybody see mythbusters? If you shoot a bullet into the air once it looses its rotation from the rifling and turns towords the ground. It will only pick up speed based on it's weight and will not even penetrate the skin if it hits someone.
That episode airs tonight on Discovery
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Anybody see mythbusters? If you shoot a bullet into the air once it looses its rotation from the rifling and turns towords the ground. It will only pick up speed based on it's weight and will not even penetrate the skin if it hits someone.
To an extent that is correct as any object dropped from zero velocity will accelerate at 9.8 meters per second per second, and stop accelerating when the wind resistance provides enough force to counter the force of gravitational acceleration on the mass of the bullet. For a human, which is less dense than a lead bullet (more surface area to create air friction), the terminal velocity is somewhere around 120 miles per hour. The terminal velocity of a bullet has got to be a little higher since it is more dense, and creates less friction per the mass of the bullet.
So disregarding all the variables such as temperature of the air, wind, humidity, and air pressure, and variables such as if the bullet is a rifle round or a pistol slug, and whether the bullet travels in an arc or goes straight up, then you have at the very least a bullet travelling at around 120-150 mph. Now, I dont know about you, but I would NOT want a small chunk of lead beaning me in the head at 150 miles per hour, regardless of what the mythbusters said.
I did miss that episode, and I would like to see how they got their results.. did they actually shoot a bullet into the air and try to hit some ballistics gel as it came down? or did they use simple math to come up with a terminal velocity then shoot a bullet down at some ballistics gel at that speed? The problem with mythbusters is they do tend to get hooked on one example of a myth and push in one direction to prove or disprove it. While I love the show, there are times when I would like to argue a point with them.
I read a news article about the cinco de mayo in Mexico where they celebrated by shooting into the air, and some police patrols had to park under bridges and such because bullets were raining down and punching through the roofs and shattering windshields.
Shoot in an arc, and the bullet will still have some horizontal velocity as well as still be spinning which will give it better aerodynamics which will increase the terminal falling velocity as well.
There are a lot of physics in play when it comes to bullets, and a lot of myths about what a bullet can and cant do. Bottom line, I dont want to get hit in the head with a bullet that was shot up in the air.
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While I love the show, there are times when I would like to argue a point with them.
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They frequently acknowledge that and seem to enjoy getting email about it, there is a lot on their website.
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They shot bullets into the air, at least for one type of test. It was fun watching them look for the bullets in the ground- and they found many of them.
They often have follow up shows because of people who challenge their findings.
I've seen several episodes like that.
I think it would be a blast to work on that show as a tester, especially if you got to hang around Kari.
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I think it would be a blast to work on that show as a tester, especially if you got to hang around Kari.
LOL.. definately..