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Original => Hot Tub Forum => Topic started by: jmoll on March 08, 2005, 10:26:57 pm

Title: Cal Spas
Post by: jmoll on March 08, 2005, 10:26:57 pm
So all you smart People, WHY not a Cal Spa??????????? ???
Title: Re: Cal Spas
Post by: Mendocino101 on March 08, 2005, 11:28:58 pm
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So all you smart People, WHY not a Cal Spa??????????? ???

Hummmmmmmmm I think it would be far more interesting to hear "why a cal spa from you"
Title: Re: Cal Spas
Post by: Lori on March 09, 2005, 06:35:57 am
Have you checked out the review section on this site?

Have you done a search, especially for Dino's (he is a poster) experiences?

Might prove eye opening!   :o
Title: Re: Cal Spas
Post by: hottubber on March 09, 2005, 07:13:08 am
First of all, let me clear the air here, who said anything about any of us being SMART? ??? That really takes some nerve.
Secondly, speak to anyone who has owned one or sold them before the dealer that has it now. Service is a huge issue when dealing with spas. From what I get out of this board, Cal doesn't back their products all that well, that is from a manufacturers standpoint. Their products seem to have numerous problems with them, none specific. Read the post"TAKE MY CAL SPA, PLEASE", you'll see why not CAL.
good luck in your search.. ;D  
Title: Another word from Dino ...
Post by: dino on March 09, 2005, 09:45:52 am
So how can you read what is on this site and still ask "why not" Cal Spas.

I do not want to repeat what is in the reviews or what is in my postings but bottom line - there tub is at best nothing special (and frankly I believe worse judging by the $2,000 repair bill in the last 26 months) and the company's business practices are at best questionable (in the worst light some would say fraudulent).

They design-in the abilitiy to dis-avow their warranties and their tubs need them!

They really are not cheaper than anybody elses tubs and judging by how they support (reat not) their dealers you will be hard pressed to find a steady longterm group of cal spa dealers in any region.

So why not buy them?
Title: Re: Cal Spas
Post by: hottubber on March 09, 2005, 09:49:53 am
dino,

I am absolutely sure that I couldn't have said it better!

nice point ;D
Title: Re: Cal Spas
Post by: wmccall on March 09, 2005, 10:38:52 am
Not to Dispute Dino at all, but I will throw in, your local dealer has a lot to do with this too.  The most recognized store where I live

http://www.sciotovalley.com/default.cfm?locID=6

sells  Hot Springs, Cal, and Viking. (I haven't heard that combination anywhere else).  But the dealer here is fairly well regarded and stands behind thier product.

But from memory, Hot Springs and Tiger River dominates 90% of thier floor space (I need to update that, they moved thier spas to their own building) and the only Cal spas on the floor are the lower end.

You dealers who have multiple brands, do the manufacturers dictate at all what you have on the floor or in stock?
Title: Re: Cal Spas
Post by: hottubber on March 09, 2005, 10:45:50 am
I do agree with you on this. The dealer is the MOST important part of the equation. If the dealer believes in the product, normally the dealer is 100% behind the product.
I have always said, "It's not WHAT you buy that is important, it's from WHOM you buy" that is the most important factor.
Most spa dealers bend over backwards to take care of some of their manufacturers problems. The dealer is the most important factor. ;D  
Title: Re: Cal Spas
Post by: poolboy34 on March 09, 2005, 02:07:59 pm
In most cases the manufacturer "suggests" what spas should be on the floor, but ultimately it is up to the dealer to decide which lines and models of spas they not only carry in stock but also what they show.

Jason,
Store manager for a D-1 & Caldera Dealer
Title: Re: Cal Spas
Post by: BIG_PAPA on March 09, 2005, 02:34:35 pm
First of all like Meno asked,lets here why you would want to buy a cal spa.What do you like about them.In my opinion why would you want to invest in a spa that you probally are going to have problems with.And than have no support from the manufacture.There are better manufactures out there that you know are going to stand buy there product and make a more superior tub.Go to ripoff.com that says it all.
Title: Re: Cal Spas
Post by: Steve on March 09, 2005, 03:03:34 pm
You knew this topic was going to bring Dino out from his hibernation. You know you're allowed to post on any topic right? ??? ;D

Steve
Title: Re: Cal Spas
Post by: poolboy34 on March 09, 2005, 03:39:12 pm
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Everyone has already said a lot about  good ol' cal spa.  But...........I just wanted to add that I know someone who personally bought one and when it was delivered it had a huge scratch in it.  He told the dealer and they said they wouldn't do anything about it.  So then he called cal themselves, they told him that if  the dealer wouldn't replace it then to bad because they wouldn't either.


Yikes!!!!  Talk about "good" customer service and factory support!!!!!  I guess all that money they spend on marketing on Monster house and at the Pool Shows makes up for their lack of service and support........
Title: Re: Cal Spas
Post by: wmccall on March 09, 2005, 04:14:53 pm
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Yikes!!!!  Talk about "good" customer service and factory support!!!!!  I guess all that money they spend on marketing on Monster house and at the Pool Shows makes up for their lack of service and support........



Speaking of spending marketing money, I still laugh when I watch the DVD of Price is Right, that I have, and they Beachcomber gave them a hot tub only to have Bob call it a Jacuzzi.  
Title: Re: Cal Spas
Post by: HotTubMan on March 09, 2005, 04:23:49 pm
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Speaking of spending marketing money, I still laugh when I watch the DVD of Price is Right, that I have, and they Beachcomber gave them a hot tub only to have Bob call it a Jacuzzi.  

Ya, Keith was real happy about that one.
Title: Re: Cal Spas
Post by: spatexport on March 11, 2005, 09:26:00 am
Although the Cal Spa manufacturer has logged over 100 BBB complaints in 3 years (most of any spa manufacturer?), the BBB rating still appears to be satisfactory...

http://www.labbb.org/BBBWeb/Forms/Business/CompanyReportPage_Expository.aspx?CompanyID=14059&hAKAID=12&hAddrID=12

...why not, indeed?
Title: Re: Cal Spas
Post by: Yorag on March 16, 2005, 11:41:09 am
As the author of the infamous "TAKE MY CAL SPA, PLEASE" post, I can honestly say that I would not recommend purchasing a Cal Spa. I have owned my Cal Spa for about 8 years and every repair is an expedition into misery. Their warranties are ambiguous, their customer service is abhorrent and their personnel turnover at the factory occurs faster than you can receive your parts. There are much better spas out there wthout question.
Title: Re: Cal Spas
Post by: hottubber on March 16, 2005, 11:54:40 am
yorag,

Can I have your autograph? That is a great book...

hottubber... ;D