Hot Tub Forum
Original => Hot Tub Forum => Topic started by: steve771 on January 31, 2005, 08:50:12 pm
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I've had previous problems with too high of a pH, but now I'm hovering around 7.4. Never had to adjust up, but I think my dealer said spa up is just baking soda. Is that correct? Thanks in advance!
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Look for the name on the container. Sodium Bicarbonate is baking soda which will raise the PH and the TA (total alkalinity). Sodium Carbonate is soda ash and will raise only the PH.
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Oops - I think you wnat to go the OTHER DIRECTION, right? Use white vinegar to reduce it. Using Baking soda would increase it further. All kinds of house-hold tricks to this. However, you may want to just go buy your local Home Depot and buy the reall stuff as it's only like $5 for a bottle of each.
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wow!!!!! It's that much at home depot these days???
Anyways.here's a tip, the alkalinity increaser your dealer sells..............you ain't gonna be baking cookies with it. Baking soda and TA increaser are the same in chemical name only, the actual percentage of the stuff is a much higher concentration in the pool and spa chems.
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I've had previous problems with too high of a pH, but now I'm hovering around 7.4. Never had to adjust up, but I think my dealer said spa up is just baking soda. Is that correct? Thanks in advance!
Your going to adjust up? You know that the acceptable PH is a range right? Depending on your alkalinity, I wouldn't adjust that up any. My water is normally 7.0, so I'm happy when it gets to 7.4.
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CAn always use Boraxo to raise the ph, and it won't touch the TA. Just make sure its plain Boraxo and dosnt have detergent in it. Oodles of bubbles if you do.
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Isn't it funny that we can spend thousands of dollars on the right spa, but when it comes to maintaining it, we choose to put in sub-standard products.
How about this... use the dealer recommended products if you want warrantee service to be covered under warrantee... ;)
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Isn't it funny that we can spend thousands of dollars on the right spa, but when it comes to maintaining it, we choose to put in sub-standard products.
How about this... use the dealer recommended products if you want warrantee service to be covered under warrantee... ;)
Please explain how sodium bicarbonate marketed as baking soda is sub-standard compared to sodium bicarbonate marketed by spa retailers. How about this...unless spelled out in the warranty specifications, using a chemically equivalent product will no more void a warranty than would using Pennzoil, Castrol or Quaker State in your new car. For a minute there, your comments almost had a tone of Haven about them. ;)
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My quote was not in regard to the right or wrong products being used, but toward the overwhelming concern about a couple of dollars being spent to take care of your spa. Why quibble???
All I was stating was that it is not worth the confusion for a couple of bucks...
Maybe it's a retail thing ;)
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wow!!!!! It's that much at home depot these days???
Anyways.here's a tip, the alkalinity increaser your dealer sells..............you ain't gonna be baking cookies with it. Baking soda and TA increaser are the same in chemical name only, the actual percentage of the stuff is a much higher concentration in the pool and spa chems.
I do not know that this is 100% correct but in trusting that Pool Boy is right.. than why the debate.....I think most retailers sell PH-Up for under 5 bucks and as little as you use it will probably last a year so...why sweat the small stuff.....
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Isn't it funny that we can spend thousands of dollars on the right spa, but when it comes to maintaining it, we choose to put in sub-standard products.
How about this... use the dealer recommended products if you want warrantee service to be covered under warrantee... ;)
How about this... re-read my original post, and you will see that my dealer DID recommend baking soda as a pH up. No need to get snobbish, I was just asking a question, and have no problem buying product. I was just wondering what the informed people on the board thought. How about that? :P
Bill... no I wasn't going to adjust just yet, but it has dropped and I was just trying to be informed before I did anything. Thanks to everyone helpful on these boards.
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Spa up and spa down are two of the least expensive chemicals you can buy. I don't think that your dealer should recommend baking soda for the simple reason that it can lead people to believe Clorox must also be OK because it contains chlorine.
I look at it like oil for my car....I use a name brand not generic as I'm sure most people do. I'm sure that Generic would do the same thing but I would doubt the quality of it. Same goes for gasoline... the only problems I've had was when I went to the generic stations an got gas with water in it....
In over 20 years of spa use I have never used baking soda! I just like to stick with a product made by the people that have something to prove with their chemical brand….
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My TA and PH tend to drop over the course of a week. Therefore, when I shock I add a tbs of baking soda to the water. It does the job beautifully...and cheaply. Right on the money every time.
Elle
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My TA and PH tend to drop over the course of a week. Therefore, when I shock I add a tbs of baking soda to the water. It does the job beautifully...and cheaply. Right on the money every time.
Elle
Same for me.
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I don't use baking soda OR spa up.....I use sodium bicarbonate.....<wink><wink><nudge><nudge> ;D
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I don't use baking soda OR spa up.....I use sodium bicarbonate.....<wink><wink><nudge><nudge> ;D
Come on now! A Master Spa and Baking soda!?! Kinda pushing the envelope arn't you? ;) ;D 8)
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Maybe licking the envelope a bit......... ;D