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General => General info Somewhat hot tub related => Topic started by: JcDenton on March 17, 2005, 11:00:42 am
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As a university student, I am currently engulfed in a rather large reseach paper that is examining the Canadian identity (or lack there-of) in Canadian literature and I thought this might be an interesting place to 'gather' a few perceptions on what you (reader) thinks of when considering Canadian identity.
Those of you inside and outside of Canada - who are interested - could you add a few words or even just a few things that you feel symbolize Canadian culture.
This would be helpful and could end up supporting my thesis. Thanks in advance to all that choose to respond!
Jc
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These are some things that I feel define Canadians:
Humanitarian
Hockey
Peaceful
Multicultural
I'll add more as I think of them.
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Interesting topic. you should get some interesting responses. I grew up in the 60's and 70's on the south shore of Lake Erie, in Pennsylvania. This was before the internet obviously and we made numerous trips into Niagra Falls, so that was my first experience with going out of the country. ;D Back then we had CB radios (70's) and it was considered a technological miracle to be able to talk to Canadians with out long distances charges, even if techinically it wasn't legal.
There has always been a warm friendship amongt individuals of both countries for each other. No place on earth has as long of a basically unguarded border as do our two countries.
The perception may be today that this relationship has diminished, but I don't think so. Today's media saturation and internet frenzy gives way too much voice for the "vocal minority" who might blow any issue way out of importance. I do think 9/11 has changed that relationship somewhat on the surface and made mutual existence a little more difficult the basic goodwill still exists.
Living in an NHL city means our Canadian born population has increased and I know they feel as comfortable here as we would there.
Now getting back to "The Canadian identity" I think that the Westen English speaking world is becoming a little more generic, but Canadians and Americans having had thier country built largely on immigrant populations are searching to celebrate those things that make them unique and to celebrate them the way our grandparents use to be "German, Irish, Italian, and so one by passing on the old culture while being Canadian or American.
I guess my perception of being "Canadian" or for that matter being "American" means what it always has, but perhaps a bit watered down from 50 years ago.
IN honor of the spirit of the original post, please don't let this degrade into a politicial argument.
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Thanks for the replies! :D
I want to reiterate what Bill stated - by no means should this degenerate into a political debate - that is clearly not my intention and anyone who decides to introduce such politically charged statements has failed to understand the true nature of this post.
Thanks for bringing that up. In my ignorance I did not consider the possible implications of my inquiry.
Lets just have some fun! :D
For me, I see my Canada as great country but not without its faults. Hockey, maple syrup and the ability to jump into the tub when its -25 degrees might suggest or define us as all just a little nutty but with good intentions! :)
Jc
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Thanks for the replies! :D
. In my ignorance I did not consider the possible implications of my inquiry.
And you shouldn't have to. It just seems like anywhere on the internet you try to have a discussion similar to this it seems to go that way and as I have said before, I've seen it ruin many good discussion groups. We have a talk show here on Saturday morning that I use to really enjoy. Now poeple call in with thier typewritten agendas and drone on forever.
define us as all just a little nutty but with good intentions! :)
Jc
Don't we all want to be that way ? At least occasionally?
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examining the Canadian identity (or lack there-of) in Canadian literature
I still remember my grade ten history class trying to explore Canadian Identity with little success.
We, as students, were unable to describe what it meant to be Canadian other than to say we weren't American. (We weren't saying we were better or worse, simply different.)
I find now that it is still hard to express what makes me Canadian.
For me being Canadian means (among other things) feeling honoured and privilaged to live in a country that offers a high level of safety, freedom, and comfort in all aspects of life.
On a lighter note, I think it is a common Canadian trait to have a twisted love/hate relationship with winter. I always "feel" more Canadian when I am outside in the middle of winter, (freezing my butt off) talking to my bait, trying to catch fish. Likewise, I can be driving to work while it's snowing, cursing the roads and everyone on them (including myself) and catch myself staring at the scenery around me dumb-founded by its beauty.
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Nicely put Joe. I like it.
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We, as students, were unable to describe what it meant to be Canadian other than to say we weren't American. (We weren't saying we were better or worse, simply different.)
True, however, being from Upsate NY I always felt more of a kinship to the many Canadians I knew than I did to a fellow American from say Arkansas or Tennesee.
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It may seem corny, and I don't mean it to be...but I always think honest and trustworthy! I think I watched too many Dudley DooRight cartoons as a kid.
I always thought it would be so cool to be a Mounty (sp?).
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I think attempting to define "Canadian" encompasses a number of things. We are a multicultural society that works very hard at creating equality. We are non aggressive and often considered too laid back which can be construed as a negative in certain environments. We're fun loving people that enjoy the outdoors and family takes precedent over everything.
We play as hard as we work and we listen to Kim Mitchell, Heart, BTO, Brian Adams, Rush, Tragically Hip, Neil young, Shania Twain and any other Canadian talent we can find! ;D
We respect nature and are learning to understand the fragility of it.
I don’t think that all of North America is much different and as we grow older, we tend to change our views on what’s important to us all. We tend to be more forgiving and look at life as a gift and the ability that we have to alter it as we venture through it. It’s difficult to stereotype a “people” as we are all greatly diversified in our thinking and yet much the same.
I feel very fortunate to live in this great country.
Steve
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No, I think Rush was born in Cape Gerardo, Mo.
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...careful...I just might be the biggest RUSH fan around! ;D
Thanks for the replies, I have actually worked a few of your ideas into the 'fabric' of my paper ( taking full credit for all it of course) :)
Jc
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I WANT A FOOTNOTE!
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After living in several different countries during my life, and visiting at least twice as many
all I can say for sure is - - -
Canadians party the best!!!
also, they dont have to worry about their beer getting warm when the fridge breaks. ;D ;D ;D
Word of advice - never drink beer or any other beverage from a boot with the toe pointed up.
r100rs
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Hmmmmm.....
As far as being the biggest RUSH fan around I probably have you beat!!!!!
I have an original Permanent Waves album with the non deleted paper...hows that!
Trivia....what was the paper????
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What's non deleted paper?
What's deleted paper, for that matter?
Brewman
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Brew....
Take a look at the cover of the album.
On the bottom left corner there is a newspaper....there is no title to the paper....I have one where there is ;)
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"There are always the inevitable last minute crises, such as the Chicago Daily Tribune being still so embarrassed about their 'Dewey defeats Truman' error of more than thirty years ago that they actually refused to let us use it on the cover!" - Neil Peart, "Personal Waves", Permanent Waves Tourbook
"We shot the newspaper with the headline 'Dewey Defeats Truman,' which now looks like '(Arabic)-Daily-(Arabic),' because we got a threat from the legal people at the Chicago Tribune, who are still embarrassed about their over-anxious printing of that headline...anything that pertains to that headline, according to the Chicago Tribune, is an embarrassment, and is subject to litigation if we were to print up any facet of it. [Webmaster note: When Harry Truman ran against Thomas Dewey for president of the United States, Truman lost in most of the states in the early returns. It looked like Dewey was going to win and the Chicago Tribune released a paper containing the erroneous headline early the next morning, Nov. 4, 1948.] To boot, Coca-Cola asked that we strip out their billboard way off in the background because it was too close to a cotton-clad mons pubis." - Hugh Syme, "From Brainwaves to Tidal Waves: The Story Behind Rush's Album Covers", Creem, 1983
Check.
Jc
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Brew....
Take a look at the cover of the album.
On the bottom left corner there is a newspaper....there is no title to the paper....I have one where there is ;)
Ok, now I get it. Wish I did have that album.
That's one thing I miss about vinyl- the art on the jacket.
The CD's are just too small to display it properly.
Brewman
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Ok, now I get it. Wish I did have that album.
That's one thing I miss about vinyl- the art on the jacket.
The CD's are just too small to display it properly.
Brewman
I have often wondered why these labels don't offer the art for sale in full-size poster form, or at least allow downloading for folks with good-quality printers. I guess they are afraid to lose control over it.
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AMEN CHAS!!!!!!!!!
The market would be outstanding!!!! I am sure folks like me would pay for that stuff....shame things went the way of the CD as Brew mentioned!
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Hmmmmm.....
As far as being the biggest RUSH fan around I probably have you beat!!!!!
Being a drummer for many years, I've tried to master YYZ with little luck. Neil is most likely the best drummer in the world as far as I'm concerned and his speed is almost inhuman. :-/ ;D
(http://www.kenihomedecor.com/images/photo-neil%20peart.jpg)
Steve
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First heard Neil in mid-70's.
Been drumming ever since. :)
Hard to find a better role model (in the Rock arena)
Jc
...except for Ged and Alex that is! ;D
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Happy Easter Monday.
My Dilbert calendar is always noting all these wierd Canadian Holidays.
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Too Funny. I have that same calendar I bet, and it indeed indicates Easter Monday for Canada.
Brewman
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Too Funny. I have that same calendar I bet, and it indeed indicates Easter Monday for Canada.
Brewman
What day do they celebrate Good Friday?
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The Friday before Easter Monday. I know...kinda tricky! ::) ;D
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The Friday before Easter Monday. I know...kinda tricky! ::) ;D
You crazy Canadians! That is how I would define you Canadians, crazy! Of course, it takes one to know one, and I am just as crazy, so that was a complement!!!
;D ;) ;D
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This is really what it's all about...
Once upon a time in the Kingdom of Heaven, God went missing for six days. Eventually, Michael the archangel found him, resting on the seventh day. He inquired of God, "Where have you been?" God sighed a deep sigh of satisfaction and proudly pointed downwards through the clouds, "Look Michael, look what I've made."
Archangel Michael looked puzzled and said, "What is it?" "It's a planet," replied God, "and I've put LIFE on it. I'm going to call it Earth and it's going to be a place of great balance." "Balance?" inquired Michael, still confused. God explained, pointing to different
parts of Earth, "For example, Northern Europe will be a place of great opportunity and wealth while Southern Europe is going to be poor; the Middle East over there will be a hot spot. Over there I've placed a continent of white people and over there is a continent of black
people," God continued, pointing to different countries. "This one will be extremely hot and arid while this one will be very cold and covered in ice."
The Archangel, impressed by Gods work, then pointed to a large landmass in the top corner and asked, "What's that one?"
"Ah," said God. "That's Canada, the most glorious place on Earth. There are beautiful mountains, lakes, rivers, streams and an exquisite coastline. The people from
Canada are going to be modest, intelligent and humorous and they're going to be found travelling the world. They'll be extremely sociable, hard working and high achieving, and they will be known throughout
the world as diplomats and carriers of peace. I'm also going! to give them super-human, undefeatable ice hockey players who will be admired and feared by all who come across them."
Michael gasped in wonder and admiration but then proclaimed; "What about balance, God? You said there will be BALANCE!" God replied wisely.
"Wait until you see the loud-mouth bastards I'm putting next to them...." ;D
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Now THAT was funny.
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It's hard to choose your neighbors...
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