Hot Tub Forum
Original => Hot Tub Forum => Topic started by: zzaphod42 on December 07, 2004, 05:34:24 pm
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I have a new customer who is VERY interested in trying to have a chlorine/bromine free hot tub. Although they have a home close to my store where the tub is going, they also work in the u.s. and can easily buy product there.
I was wondering if anyone is willing to make a recommendation of one non-chlorine/bromine regime over another? They are well aware of the fact that I do not endorse running a hot tub without bromine or chlorine, but would like to try anyway.
And no I do not need a lecture on the importance of always have some bromine or chlorine in a hot tub :P ;D
Joe
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I think Nature 2 has a product that can be used with it that doesn't have chlorine in it...
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Thanks xr, - any other recommendations people??? Anyone? Hello?
Alright, come on guys, lay off the booze, and get down off of the Arctic covers and help a man out ;D
We Canadian folk don't know anything a-boot these alternate systems eh? :(
Joe
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Joe, Nature 2 is what they want. Dimension 1 dealers sell the same thing only its called Vision. The Vision cartridge costs more but lasts 50% longer (6 months vs 4). They will still need to use dichlor periodically and they will still need an oxidizer (duichlor can work, or MPS or equivilent)
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I've tried SoftSoak and liked it but it did require more attention than I was able to give, I rarely test my spa once a month and might go a year without a refill.
I have recently looked at the Pristine Blue but have yet to try it so I wouldn't feel right about giving advise or recommendations. If I haven't used something on my personal spa at home I don't push it on others.
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I've tried SoftSoak and liked it but it did require more attention than I was able to give, I rarely test my spa once a month and might go a year without a refill.
I have recently looked at the Pristine Blue but have yet to try it so I wouldn't feel right about giving advise or recommendations. If I haven't used something on my personal spa at home I don't push it on others.
Trust me, I am definitely NOT pushing any of this stuff on my customers! Living in Canada I recommend a total of two different sanitizer routines: Bromine or Chlorine. However, I wanted to have a couple of suggestions, since they are intent on giving an alternate system a try. I figured it would be better to get some advice from those of you "in the know," rather than send them off blindly.
Joe
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The closest to chemical free we have gotten our tub after a number of experments is Nature 2 in a D1 ChairmanII, 1 tablesspoon MPS after each use and 1 table spoon of Dichlor once a week.
I tried just MPS/N2 and no Dichlor, water went cloudy after 2 weeks regular use.
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The closest to chemical free we have gotten our tub after a number of experments is Nature 2 in a D1 ChairmanII, 1 tablesspoon MPS after each use and 1 table spoon of Dichlor once a week.
I tried just MPS/N2 and no Dichlor, water went cloudy after 2 weeks regular use.
hold on... I didn't type sthingy, who's playing with the remote ??? ;D
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Hi
You might like to take a look at the EcoOne system , manufactured in the US and we sell it here in the UK.
It can be used chlorine free with just small shock doses after use.
Check out : www.eco-one.co.uk
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We are new too hot tubs. I have a real problem with chlorine (the smell) so our dealer had us use the Pristineblue setup. This is the one he uses on his own spa at his residence. And he has 6 kids, all teenagers, with 4 girls and two boys. We have really enjoyed the Pristineblue. Easy to take care of and haven't had any Ph or Alk problems at all. Ph runs at 7.4 and Alk runs at 90ppm. Calcuim runs around 150-200ppm. The Pristineblue (copper ions) runs at .9ppm checked every two weeks. They have a good webb site as well. And EPA approved in most states I understand.
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A biguanide system (Soft Soak, Baqua Spa) is the only other alternative but the hydrogen peroxide in the shock can be harmful to the spa.
I would never use or recommend it but if you have a customer that is dead set against chlorine or bromine it is all you can use.
Gary
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A biguanide system (Soft Soak, Baqua Spa) is the only other alternative but the hydrogen peroxide in the shock can be harmful to the spa.
I would never use or recommend it but if you have a customer that is dead set against chlorine or bromine it is all you can use.
Gary
Gary, have you tested the Pristine Blue?
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A biguanide system (Soft Soak, Baqua Spa) is the only other alternative but the hydrogen peroxide in the shock can be harmful to the spa.
It is my understanding that Pristine Blue is not a biguanide system but rather a copper based - originally developed for algea control in pools but now used as a main sanitizer. It is also suppose to be compatible with MPS.
Thanks Winnsome for you feedback on Pristine Blue. I would love to hear more from anyone who has experience with it.
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Gary, have you tested the Pristine Blue?
Yes and I did not care for it. It is copper based and it is not nearly effective as chlorine. They do not even claim it is a sanitizer.
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Yes and I did not care for it. It is copper based and it is not nearly effective as chlorine. They do not even claim it is a sanitizer.
How does one measure the relative effectiveness of a chosen regimen? What about Pristine Blue was not effective?
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I'm curious also as to why you never liked Pristineblue. The Pristineblue part is the bacteria/algae control and the PristinePower is the oxidizer. We have the Taylor test kit and I even have a calibrated PH and ORP meter. Both show everything to be within acceptable levels. But still in the learning process, so need to learn from you people all I can.
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I tried "Eco One" in my home tub for awhile. The folks at PoolandSpa.com were kind enough to provide me with a free sample !!
It works in conjunction with dichlor, but I assure you: you'll never know there is chlorine in the water. The levels of chlor can be very low, and the natural oils in the product mask both the odor and the drying tendency of the chlorine. I know you can order it online, don't know if there is any prob sending it to Canada.
Otherwise Baqua or N2.
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How about this add that's on the bottem of this forum page. It says "Tired of Spa Chemicals" http:// http://www.watertonic.com/ It says it's chemical free. I had posted a question about it before. I saw this thread. I wonder if anyone on this board has ever tried it?
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it looks similar to spa perfect and eco-one which are simply enzyme treatments, that still require some form of an additional sanitizer. If it sounds to good to be true, then it most likely is.