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Title: interesting scam artist.........
Post by: Dr. Spa™ Ret. on March 20, 2006, 09:51:56 pm
http://www.steve-lanni.com/
Title: Re: interesting scam artist.........
Post by: wmccall on March 21, 2006, 08:49:53 am
I found 3 of the people who complained on Ebay and not a one left a negative feedback to warn others. (None that shows anyway.
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Post by: Tatooed_Lady on March 21, 2006, 09:04:10 am
looks like a real weiner.......er......winner, my bad.  :-[
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Post by: East_TX_Spa on March 21, 2006, 05:34:20 pm
I swear that's the turdburgler who came into my store with Stacey Diego a few months ago.  I tried to get a copy of their license plate but my eyes aren't too good and they took off in a hurry when I started getting suspicious.

Terminator
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Post by: Spatech_tuo on March 21, 2006, 05:37:05 pm
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I swear that's the turdburgler who came into my store with Stacey Diego a few months ago.  I tried to get a copy of their license plate but my eyes aren't too good and they took off in a hurry when I started getting suspicious.

Terminator


With the infamous Stacey Diego? They're the Bonnie and Clyde of the spa industry. Consider yourself lucky.
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Post by: Vinny on March 21, 2006, 10:57:18 pm
I do have a question and maybe a stupid question because I don't really buy anything on ebay but ...

People "wired" him money - aren't you supposed to go through Paypal and your money is protected? Or use a credit card and again your protected?


I wouldn't buy anything over $50.00 on ebay let alone $1,000's.
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Post by: drewstar on March 22, 2006, 08:49:08 am
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I do have a question and maybe a stupid question because I don't really buy anything on ebay but ...

People "wired" him money - aren't you supposed to go through Paypal and your money is protected? Or use a credit card and again your protected?


I wouldn't buy anything over $50.00 on ebay let alone $1,000's.



I've bought a few things over E-bay for up to $500.  
I use pay pal that is linked to a credit/debit card. I never had a problem in the 4 years I've shopped on ebay.

My latest indulgence is: (I'm a batman nut. This was a birthday present)

(http://img54.imageshack.us/img54/5143/batman2xl.jpg)

I need to figure out how to connect this to my home bar so that a panel slides open. I am wondering if the motors that "pop" up speakers use with the rubber belts would work?
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Post by: Brookenstein on March 22, 2006, 10:58:50 am
We wired over $3k for a motorcycle sight unseen to someone in San Diego in 02.  Once he had the money we drove down there and picked up the bike.  I felt a little weird doing it, but a) the guy had all positive feedback b)all he sold were motorcycles c)it was a great deal d) we are risk takers.

Now, a year or so later my brother was going to buy a plasma tv off of ebay for about 1/2 price.  I looked at the listing for him and told him I thought it was a scam.  The guy was in Spain, he wanted money wired through Western Union, and in his ID he had never sold plasma tv's.  My brother was on his way to do it when I called him on his cell and told him to wait.  Turned out I was right and this guy had stolen someone with positive feedbacks ID and was scamming $10s of thousands.
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Post by: Vinny on March 22, 2006, 12:20:48 pm
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We wired over $3k for a motorcycle sight unseen to someone in San Diego in 02.  ...


So you didn't go through Paypal, ebay or credit card to protect yourself?


drewstar, I can understand the credit card buying as you are protected from what I understand ... BTW cool statue, I will assume this is 1960's vintage Batman. My parents made me a cape with a hood so I could run around as Batman ... People look at me weird all the time! ;) ;D



Just kidding, It was in the 60's and I was under 10 YO - life was so great back then!
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Post by: Spatech_tuo on March 22, 2006, 01:14:54 pm
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My parents made me a cape with a hood so I could run around as Batman ... People look at me weird all the time! ;) ;D



Is it because all you have on is the cape and hood?
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Post by: Brookenstein on March 22, 2006, 01:55:36 pm
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So you didn't go through Paypal, ebay or credit card to protect yourself?



No, we went to our bank (Bank of America) and paid like $40 for a wire transfer directly to his bank account.  He didn't take any other form of payment nor would he let us bring cash when we picked up the bike.

It was a leap of faith, but it was all on the up and up.
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Post by: Steve on March 22, 2006, 02:30:51 pm

I don't question this guy should be behind bars at all.

A couple of things I do question however...

It's a little tough to feel sorry for these people wiring money for an item on the internet. It's buyer beware people and although no one deserves to loose money this way, I'm not totally shocked. They shouldn't be either.

Does EBay except any responsibility and are they liable in any way?

So the guy claims bankruptcy and then what???? I’m guessing he was set up as a Limited Company so his personal assets are separate.  

Steve
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Post by: Dr. Spa™ Ret. on March 23, 2006, 01:49:26 am
Well............ my sister recently spent over 11 grand for a car on ebay........... She's currently considering an offer of 15 grand for it...

I just spent 16k on a new (used) CnC fabric cutter that was in Canada, and listed on ebay. It needs about 4k of work (that I was expecting)...... The closest thing to it I can find is 90k.

On the other hand, I used to sell cover lifters on ebay. The bidding frequently went over $150........ for a lifter I sold for $125 on my web site.
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Post by: Vinny on March 23, 2006, 07:41:43 am
I guess I'm out of touch with the reality of ebay. I'm also a New Yorker. I trust some things but not all. I would spend money over the internet as long as I have some guaranty that IF something went wrong I would be protected (credit card, paypal ...).

I give you credit to do business with a person sight unseen, communicating via e-mail and no insurance of getting your money back "just in case".

Yes, I do business with Doc the same way but I was on his website for over 1 year, people on there ordered things and I ordered via credit card - my guaranty that IF I was to not get my stuff, I wouldn't be out money.
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Post by: drewstar on March 23, 2006, 09:14:38 am
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Well............ my sister recently spent over 11 grand for a car on ebay........... She's currently considering an offer of 15 grand for it...

I just spent 16k on a new (used) CnC fabric cutter that was in Canada, and listed on ebay. It needs about 4k of work (that I was expecting)...... The closest thing to it I can find is 90k.

On the other hand, I used to sell cover lifters on ebay. The bidding frequently went over $150........ for a lifter I sold for $125 on my web site.



i have a friend who has bought several cars via e-bay.

Of course there's the one sitting in his barn that didn't come with a clean title and was later it was discoverd was actually stolen.   The authorities want it back, and the guy who sold it to him is gone..... :P
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Post by: Steve on March 24, 2006, 01:23:33 pm
I'm sure there's positive transactions made via the www. My point was that the risk factor increases while the ability to cover one's a$$ decreases.

Intelligent shopping would allow the same ability to purchase a vehicle and resell it for a profit. This ability isn't limited to EBay purchases. The inability to see, touch and drive it would be enough to prevent me from spending money this way. Risk takers sometimes win but often loose. They expect that. I just wouldn't be willing to gamble with thousands is all...

I don't imagine many people who didn't profit so well are inclined to broadcast their story though.
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Post by: Brewman on March 24, 2006, 01:49:53 pm
I've had only good experiences with Ebay, but I've not spent any more than about $400 on any one item, and most of what I've purchased was sold by retailers selling new stuff via ebay- most often buy now vs the auction.  I did get a pool table light (brand new from a dealer) and a used aquarium setup by bidding.
I've also had good luch with Amazon.com, and many other onlilne purchases.
 
I don't think I'd buy anything really expensive, like a car, boat, motorcycle on Ebay- I'm pretty hands on and needing to inspect stuff like that.  And I'd never get a spa that way.

Online is just another way to purchase something, and like any other business transacitons, you have to be aware of what you're doing.  

Title: Re: interesting scam artist.........
Post by: anne on March 24, 2006, 10:53:58 pm
I have made only one purchase on ebay, but it was the best solution I could have drempt of for this particular product. I was researching wine refridgerators for a few months, could find nothing locally that was of any quality, and the big box stores only had junk. I found a wine/beer fridge company with really nice units who sold their returned items at ebay. They provided excellent photos of each unit, and everything came with a same-as-new warranty. I ended up getting a great 64 bottle fridge for about 1/2 the normal price, and only because it had the tiniest scratch.