Hot Tub Forum
Original => Hot Tub Forum => Topic started by: clevelandguy on September 22, 2004, 08:27:43 pm
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Wife and I have tried the Marquis Euphoria, Beachcomber (dry only), Dimension (dry only) and Sundance. She likes the Optima, especially for the calf jets but I only fit (shoulders below the water) in one seat. From what I can remember (kids were with us) I fit better in the Euphoira but she felt constricted with the contoured seating, it doesn't have calf jets that she liked and the dealer is smaller and far away. I thought about just compromising and getting the Optima but then I think about the expense for this toy and I hate the fact that I only fit in one seat.
I am 6'4 and wife is 5'8 (both weight proportionate) and if I am going to drop this type of cash, I want to be totally excited about it. I didn't fit well in Jacuzzis, D1, or Beachcomber dry (I am long in the torso, head rests hit me in the mid-upper back. The Serena or Lotus Bay from D1 looked like it may fit (was wet and I couldnt test) but it was $9400 plus tax which is out of my range. Someone recommended the Grandee but the intial price quotes I got on that were in the $9000s so I won't even bother. A few have recommended Dynasty but I am not thrilled about our dealer. Should I quit?? I fell like I have exhausted options
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I would reconsider the Marquis...have your wife try it again.....I am surprised that it did not fit her....as I own one and am 6/2 270 never a problem in any seat.....
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Please keep wet testing/looking.....you WILL find the tub that is best for both of you. Don't be in a hurry.....taking a year or more to find the best tub that will hopefully last you many, many years is worth the investment of time.
The only tub I have experience with is the Master Spas LSX. If you have an MS dealer close, I highly recommend wet testing it. Check out the reviews here at the review pages.
Best of luck and DON'T GIVE UP......owning the right spa for you will affect your quality of life significantly.......
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Someone on this forum said that you will use your tub differently once you have it at home than when you wet test.
That got me thinking about all potential ways of enjoying each tub that I wet tested. I spent a minumum of 20 minutes in each tub and made sure I understood how each tub worked (funny how most dealers didn't know the versitility of their tubs). You have to think a little out of the box which tends to be hard to do wet testing in a showroom. Move around the tub, slouch in the seats, adjust jets, turn in the seat, swing your legs across seats, turn around in the seats, etc...
Take Mendo's suggestion and try the Euphoria again. It would be hard to find calf jets as good (talkin' 'bout the regular Euphoria not the SA). Spend some time making use of the whirlpool jets and the post seat jets. Try the Optima again - look in you phonebook and see what other dealers are in your area.
Dry tests tell you practically nothing about a tub's comfort. Drive to out of area dealers to wet test if you must. Wet test a tub twice, thrice or more if need be but don't give up - every tub is different and there is at least one out there right for you and your wife!
Best of luck!
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I am not a dealer, just curious which Beachcomber you tried. If you had any interest in them check out the 730. All the seats are deep and barrier free.
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Give the Dynasty Excalibur a try. I'm 6'2 and every seat including the lounger is comfortable. My 6'7 friend seemed to enjoy it too. (no restrictive seating) My wife is 5'5 and my daughter is 5'4 and they both love it. And yes, good calf jets in the lounger.
Is this the dealer you weren't thrilled with?
Country Stove Company Inc.
6669 Royalton Rd.
North Royalton
OH, 44133
Phone: (440) 582-0062
Fax: (440) 582-0781
Website: Dealer Website
15 miles away
PS, when I saw your name and that you were giving up, I thought maybe you were talking about the Browns. 8)
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clevelandguy,
If you like the Marquis then try other models! I have found many people that initially though of the Euphoria because of the seating loved the reward! Try it and you might just change your mind on lounger vs no lounger.
My Favorite shell layout of any spa is the Marquis 636 Try that also.
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Browns giving up? I thought the did that in Dallas last weekend. Will see what so called "magic" they can do against the Giants on Sunday.
Clevelandguy, as Windsurfdog mentioned, you may want to look at Master Spa. They have a huge dealer on the east side of Cleveland, thats where I got my spa from, and have been very happy with them.
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Clevelandguy:
Buck UP brother! Is that any way for a resident of the Rock and Roll Capitol of the world to act?
Did Cleveland give up when the Cuyahoga River caught fire and burned back in the 70's? Did we give up after Kuncinich was elected mayor (I had the opportunity to heckle him during a stop on his presidential campaign, which I did gladly -- Browns fans NEVER give up on a grudge) and nearly ruined the city?
HECK no!
Head down to that GREAT Italian place on the Hill near University Circle (it's been 20 years, so I hope it's still there), order the spaghetti with meatballs AND sausage, along with a bottle of the "special" house red. Have a good meal and reflect on your options.
You WILL find a tub! Posters, please HELP THIS MAN OUT!
God Bless ya, friend.
Keep the faith...
Drewski
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The only tub I have experience with is the Master Spas LSX. If you have an MS dealer close, I highly recommend wet testing it.
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Being as tall as you are I would stay away from any tub that has the wrap around shoulder jets like the master spas. You'd never be able to cram yourself in there. I would have to imagine that tub designers shoot to mold their seating for the avarage adult human height in order to fit most people. You my friend are quite a few inches above that ;). I have to agree with the comment about moving around when you wet test, you'll find a tub that fits everyone in your family, I'm sure of that.
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Dimension 1 has lots of deep seating. Nautilus, Californian, Chairman you may find one corner in the Chairman II a little restrictive. All cost less than the Sarena Bay.
HTMan
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Dimension 1 has lots of deep seating. Nautilus, Californian, Chairman you may find one corner in the Chairman II a little restrictive. All cost less than the Sarena Bay.
HTMan
Actually the Californian would be a great choice for the budget you've set. Or even the Nautilus! One more idea, you might consider going a whole different direction and looking at the D1 Diplomat with 2 loungers. I have seen more people that wanted open seating buy the diplomat than you can imagine. The seats are so well contoured with a lounge molded for a tall person and one specifically designed for fit a woman’s frame that couples love it!
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Stuart;
At 5'8" I think his wife may be a little tall for the smaller louger in the Diplomat, wouldn't you agree?
HTMan
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Being as tall as you are I would stay away from any tub that has the wrap around shoulder jets like the master spas. You'd never be able to cram yourself in there. I would have to imagine that tub designers shoot to mold their seating for the avarage adult human height in order to fit most people. You my friend are quite a few inches above that ;). I have to agree with the comment about moving around when you wet test, you'll find a tub that fits everyone in your family, I'm sure of that.
Until you've tried the shoulder seat, you shouldn't poo-poo it. Many friends much larger than myself (5'11") use it with no problems. That's why I suggested wet testing--only you can be the judge of what fits you best--not others at this site........
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I have to side with the "dawg" here. I am 6'2"+ and there are seats in the Coleman I cant fit in. I have seen folks my height fit because he/she(usually he) s longer in the leg than I. At least dry test. WSD, you must agree although very rewarding the neck/shoulder jets can be constricting.
HTMan
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If you didn't like the marquis, I'd give up too. Maybe wait for next years model.
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I have to side with the "dawg" here. I am 6'2"+ and there are seats in the Coleman I cant fit in. I have seen folks my height fit because he/she(usually he) s longer in the leg than I. At least dry test. WSD, you must agree although very rewarding the neck/shoulder jets can be constricting.
HTMan
I can see where the neck jets could be constrictive if one only sits in the seat with their bottom pushed all the way back against the seat. I find myself sitting in that seat from like I described above to almost laid out, stretching my legs toward the foot jets, still receiving the wonderful shoulder massage from above. These are considerations that living with a spa can reveal....and why wet testing is soooooo important.
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If you didn't like the marquis, I'd give up too. Maybe wait for next years model.
Wow.....that's encouraging......
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Until you've tried the shoulder seat, you shouldn't poo-poo it. Many friends much larger than myself (5'11") use it with no problems. That's why I suggested wet testing--only you can be the judge of what fits you best--not others at this site........
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Agreed, my 6;7 friend uses it in my tub nicely. However, you may not get much room in the footwell area when he does that, but he enjoys the seat.
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You sure have tried a lot of different spas. If none of them are truly for you there are still a couple major brands you haven't mentioned such as Caldera, Coleman and Master.
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I am 6'4", and my shoulders do stick above the water in all seats of our tub; especially if I sit bolt upright. Then again, my wife is 5'4", and hers do not. My shoulders stick out mainly when I put my arms on the rails, or sit up straight upright, which I suppose I will not do very often when it is very cold outside. I suppose mid January at the Jersey shore is not the time for a 6 person hot tub party. In the winter my arms will be out only long enough to grab my Drambouie.
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Cleve,
Take the advise of Mendicino and Stuart.
I am also confused how your wife could feel constrited except for this observation the other spas were dry not wet that you sat in. A dry spa feels roomier.
Rocket
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Stuart;
At 5'8" I think his wife may be a little tall for the smaller louger in the Diplomat, wouldn't you agree?
HTMan
Not at all! My wife is 5'6" and has room to spare. In-fact I just sold a spa to a couple of guy's (don't make me explain) that one was 6'3" and one was 5'9", they fit great.
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My shoulders stick out mainly when I put my arms on the rails, or sit up straight upright, which I suppose I will not do very often when it is very cold outside. .
Actually, wind is the key factor, In the winter I like a hot 104 degree tub for muscle relaxation and I sit like you do to cool off and this extends how long you can stay in the hot water. With no wind I've sat comforably in tubs when the ouside temp reaches 0F. A quick dip of the shoulders back in for a minute or two and your good for another 10 minutes or so.
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I would reconsider the Marquis...have your wife try it again.....I am surprised that it did not fit her....as I own one and am 6/2 270 never a problem in any seat.....
Thought I would add my two penneth to the fray.....we've got a marquis reward...I'm 5ft2, and my hubby is 6ft 5, and we fit quite nicely into tall the seat, apart from the therapy seat with he next jets, which is a bit deep for me. However, it's nice in the cold, cos it keeps me warm!!!lol
saz
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Not all spas fit everyone. Regardless of how much you may love your Marquis it doesn't mean it works for everyone (no matter the similarities in height) and the fact it doesn't isn't really a reflection on Marquis.
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Thanks for all the responses.
Couple quick answers, I dry tested a few D1 tubs Nautilus, Chariman etc and even the dealer told me my shoulders would be above the water. They are out.
While I likes the MArquis, my wife didn't, partially because of feeling constrained, no calf jets to speak of, and hated the looks. Still haven't ruled them out
Optima - I may go back and wet test again, the main seat fit me perfectly, perhaps I was sitting too upright, not sure.
Dynasty - Wen to the dealer you recommended and they dropped Dynasty citing that the tubs were always leaking. They are now selling Artesian (i think) which I wasn't thrilled with.
Beachcomber - I don't remember which ones I dry tested but I didn't like the feel of those tubs at all, plus I didn't like pumps etc being outside the tubs underthe steps.
I am also feeling guilty about dropping the $$$ on a pleasure item like this. I think we would use it but the initial outlay and monthly cost of chemicals and electrical (my guess around $35-40) has me thinking I could use my money more wisely.
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Thanks for all the responses.
I am also feeling guilty about dropping the $$$ on a pleasure item like this. I think we would use it but the initial outlay and monthly cost of chemicals and electrical (my guess around $35-40) has me thinking I could use my money more wisely.
You have to decide if you can justify the costs of owning what is essentially a luxury item. If spending the bucks and paying the ongoing expenses was going to put us in a financial bind, then we'd have not got our tub. Most of us have to pick and choose our splurges. We said yes to the spa. Just decide on what's important for you and go from there. Of course this should be within your means. You won't enjoy the spa as much if it puts financial strain on your life.
Brewman
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Sounds like a tough situation. My advice would be to keep looking until you find a model that you are both satisfied with in terms of comfort and price. Are you running out of dealers to visit? Your other option of course is to slouch!!! But you don't sound like a slouch to me. :) Good luck...there's a tub out there for everyone.
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Clevelandguy - we are in the same place as you are. I am 6'3" and my wife is 5'7" - I dont fit shoulderwise in most 7' tubs. We wet tested the Caldera Geneva the other day and really liked it. We put a hold on one last night - but now we are having second thoughts......cant decide if we have made the right luxury decision.
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Cleve,
You may want to look at LASpas as an option. Been very happy with ours. has different seats for different sized people, calf jets in lounger and plenty of room all around. It is an 8' HEET. I a dealer at 11200 Old Old Lincoln Way East, Orrville OH 44667, but there may be one closer I just went to their website and punched in the 44133 from another post to your question and got this as the closet one. Good luck and don't give up. I did not find one that was absolutely perfect, but dar close. The only way I can see getting the perfect fit would be for someone to come up with a custom tailored hot tub just like a tailored suit and mold it based on your exact measurements.
Chaz
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Thanks for all the responses.
Dynasty - Wen to the dealer you recommended and they dropped Dynasty citing that the tubs were always leaking. They are now selling Artesian (i think) which I wasn't thrilled with.
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Hmm, will have to look into that some more. At the very least, I'll drop a note to Dynasty to tell them to remove that dealers info from thier website ;D
I ran into a dealer at the Ohio State fair that use to sell D1 spas and now sells Cal spas and he quoted that same reason for dumping D1.
That said, after 18 months of spa bliss, I had to call my Dynasty dealer Sunday because I think I have developed a leak. We will see how it goes, this dealer has been great and I have a 5 year no fault warranty.
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Of course this should be within your means. You won't enjoy the spa as much if it puts financial strain on your life.
Brewman
As I read your replys and responses I really agree with Brewman. Sit back rethink what and if you can afford. If you can sit the family at the kitchen table and put it to a vote. this is a iteam of relaxation for the whole household. a place to talk and reconect with the people you live with, a place to look at the stars or the blue sky for a change, a place to check out for a while after a tuff day,a place to releave sore body parts(after some wild whupee ;D)
ALL IN YOUR OWN BACK YARD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
p.s there is also exspenses for electrical, permits, what to set the tub on you should consider those cost when the time comes.
Good luck
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Well, I thought I would give everyone our final verdict. We thought it about some more, reflected, meditated, chanted, re-tested, prayed and then drank alcohol.
Result: - Optima to be delivered this week!!
Woo hoo! Can't wait. ;D ;D ;D ;D
Thanks all!!
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SWEET!!! Nice that you didn't have to wait the 6 weeks we did for our Optima.
Congrats. You're gonna love it!
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Good for you, cocktails will do it evertime.
Congrats!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Well, I thought I would give everyone our final verdict. We thought it about some more, reflected, meditated, chanted, re-tested, prayed and then drank alcohol.
Result: - Optima to be delivered this week!!
Woo hoo! Can't wait. ;D ;D ;D ;D
Now, when the Browns are on TV, you will have a place to retreat too. Maybe you can invite Mr Winslow over for some therapy.
Thanks all!!
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YEEEEAAAAAAA!!!!
Way to go, Cleve! A choice you shouldn't ever have to regret. May the gods of Spatopia bless you with crystal clear water.........
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One last point just to clear the air, I am a Steelers fan and hate the Browns. I would have no need for a tub if I were a Browns fan as I would have jumped off a bridge years ago.
PS - What a buzz kill, tub is here but electrician can't come till Saturday and only has 3-4 hr and doesnt think he can finish the job!!! I can t stant the wait, how long does a wiring job normally take??? ??? ???
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'bout as long as it takes the Steelers to run the ball to the endzone..... You could be waiting awhile! ;) ;D