Hot Tub Forum
Original => Hot Tub Forum => Topic started by: Jackatkc on August 17, 2004, 02:25:52 pm
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I went to the Marquis Dealer today in OP,KS., and I'm feeling much better. Thanks for the info on him Stuart. He really does seem like a nice guy.
I think I am going to pull the trigger on the Reward. I hate negotiating, but want to get a fair deal.
Here is is.
7300.00. That includes, lift (the good one) Cover, Steps, Lights, Chemicals, Ozonater (comes built in the tub) Delivery & Set-up. This was not a negotiated price, just the price that he gave me.
Does that sound fair, or is there room to work with?
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Thats a fair price for the area and with the Duralift. He doesn't "boost" the price just so he can give you a "buy it today" deal. There are still several factors here; what shell? What options? I take it that this is not a Silver Anniversery?
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It's the Durashell? The plastic one. It's not the Silver Ann. What options am I missing?
Thanks in advance for your help.
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Does it include the frog? I really like the whirlpool on the standard reward and also really like the durashell.
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It does come with both the frog and the Whirlpool.
Is there anything else that I am missing?
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I sent you a private email about the conversation.
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That's a pretty good price - but ya never know if there is room to work until you ask/negotiate. If you are getting a 2004 model I am pretty sure it's got the frog standard.
stuart,
what other shells do they offer besides durashell? It was my understanding that all their shells were durashell
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They offer a Quarite material both with or without Microban and a couple of Pearl colors in addition to a sky blue swirl, a silver swirl and a dark blue swirled with a copper color (not my favorite but many people love it!).
Marquis just started offering the frog on standard models in the last few months.
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Why is the frog an advantage?
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The frog is an automatic feeder for your sanitizer. Here is how most people sanitize a spa; pick any day of the week, lets say Sunday. You test your spa and throw in some sanitizer (i.e. bromine, chlorine, ect.), Monday you have to much, Tuesday still pretty strong, Wed getting better, Thursday the water is starting to go south a bit, Friday low sanitizer, Saturday nasty water. What the frog system does here is give you a constant feed of bromine and minerals to keep the spa clean all week with babysitting it. Everyone gets into their own system of taking care of (or not) their spa. The Frog system just makes that a bit easier.
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Sounds like even I could handle it! Thanks.
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The frog is an automatic feeder for your sanitizer. Here is how most people sanitize a spa; pick any day of the week, lets say Sunday. You test your spa and throw in some sanitizer (i.e. bromine, chlorine, ect.), Monday you have to much, Tuesday still pretty strong, Wed getting better, Thursday the water is starting to go south a bit, Friday low sanitizer, Saturday nasty water. What the frog system does here is give you a constant feed of bromine and minerals to keep the spa clean all week with babysitting it. Everyone gets into their own system of taking care of (or not) their spa. The Frog system just makes that a bit easier.
With the exception of the minerals, how does this differ from using a floating puck dispenser?
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I want to answer this in detail and cannot take the time tonight. I will try to get back with you tomorrow.....
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The frog is an automatic feeder for your sanitizer. Here is how most people sanitize a spa; pick any day of the week, lets say Sunday. You test your spa and throw in some sanitizer (i.e. bromine, chlorine, ect.), Monday you have to much, Tuesday still pretty strong, Wed getting better, Thursday the water is starting to go south a bit, Friday low sanitizer, Saturday nasty water. What the frog system does here is give you a constant feed of bromine and minerals to keep the spa clean all week without babysitting it. Everyone gets into their own system of taking care of (or not) their spa. The Frog system just makes that a bit easier.
The problem with your scenario Stuart, is that as soon as somebody gets into the tub, the chlorine is gone. There is not much chance that putting in Dichlor on Sunday is going to last past Sunday night if the tub gets used at all. To use Dichlor properly, you should put in a small amount each time you exit the tub. With even a small amount of experience, it is easy to begin to guage the size of the dose according to the number of people, size of the tub and other factors that become second nature to most of us.
I would love to find a system that automatically doses my tub with watever it needs whenever it needs it, but those systmes don't exist, or at least they don't exist within the kind of price range most of us would be willing to pay - and even then - keeping the SYSTEM calibrated and operating smoothly becomes a burden.
Floating feeders that use traditional Bromine tabs have a very bad habit: they release huge quantities of Chlorine gas. That's because the Bromine can't work without an oxidizer - and the makers put about 40 - 45% chlorine into the tabs to allow for this. The negative effects of this gas cloud is soon seen on the cover, pillows, and other parts of the tub, not to mention that you have to breathe it while sitting in the tub.
I like (and recommend) using Dichlor. You add a couple of teaspoons as you exit the tub, more if you were joined by other people. BUT - you run the jets with the lid up for ten minutes or so, to allow the chlorine gas cloud to dissapate. The ability to do this simple step can add years and years of life to your cover and pillows.
If you want a floating feeder with bromine - without the chlorine gas problem - try 'Briiliance' by the makers of Baqua. It strips out the chlorine, and you add MPS by hand instead, using the jets with the cover open to see to it that the MPS doesn't effect the cover negatively. This way you only oxidize after use, or once a week, and yet you get the floating feeder in the spa working for you between uses. The best of both worlds. And it doesn't have that nasty, punky smell that bromine tends to have.
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Very well said Chas. I prepare the necessary chems. (dichlor) before I hit the tub, them use when I'm done. It's a good routine for keeping my tub clean at all times.
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There is also no reason you could not use a regular spa frog in the filter area along with brilliance.
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I just realized that I never answered this! The Bromine in the Frog system does not require activation from shock or anything else in order to work. You set it according to your flow rate and use. What I have found is that instead of setting it on 3 in the Marquis system as recommend originally, you can set it at 1 or 2 based off of your usage. Marquis water turn over is much more than typical for this system and therefore you will not need to allow for as much flow through the frog cartridge. I have yet to have a "funky Bromine" smell as suggested and attribute that partially to the type of bromine used and the lesser amounts due to "constant" sanitation. Remember, bromine is still chlorine based and like a chlorine system needs oxidized. So far everyone I have put on this system loves it.
Jack,
Did you ever get your Marquis? I don't know if I left you hanging here or not. I left for the fair around the time of your post and it was a bit crazy!
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Stuart,
You did answer my questions in detail on a private message. Again, thanks for leading me towards Rick here in KC.
I did purchase a Reward on Monday. It's going to be delivered this Monday. The final price was 7K. Included easy lift, steps, lights, chem, del & set up.
Thanks for all of your help!
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Congrats!
Your in good hands! Feel free to P/M me if you ever have questions and can't reach Rick (like during a Chiefs game)!
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I have a Reward - just got it up and running last Saturday. We love it!!
I'm trying to get my chemicals correct. The test strips I'm using have Total Bromine and Free Chlorine readings. I have the Spa Frog system. My free chlorine levels were low so my dealer told me to use 4 oz. shock, then turn up the bromine cartridge to 6 until the Free Chlorine came up to about a 3 (on my test strip - med. purple in color). I have my bromine cartridge set at 6, my total bromine level is raising but not the free chlorine. Should the Free Chlorine level raise with the higher levels of bromine? I'm afraid to have the bromine levels too high. Any thoughts?
Thanks!
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Turn the cartridge back down, put in an oz to 2 oz of granular bromine or just shock the spa after each use with some enhanced shock or chlorine until the levels come up some. Also get on the Marquis website, go to the Q/A section and ask Jeff Shaw what he recommends.
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Thanks, Stuart. I didn't know about the Q/A section on the website. I'll check that out now.
Regards,
Stacey