Hot Tub Forum
Original => Hot Tub Forum => Topic started by: Marco P on May 22, 2018, 02:27:05 pm
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So we are looking into a spa, and we were looking at either the Bullfrog A/R7 and the Marquis V94L with microsilk
Both tubs we would like to have ozone, led lighting, wifi, and on the marquis the chemical feeder. thoughts?
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Both are quality manufacturers. I would think that the Marquis Euphoria would be more comparable to the Bullfrog A7. I personally would skip the wifi on either. Unless things have changed in the last 1-2 years, Balboa's wifi module was horrible.
I would wet test the models you are interested in. That will tell you a lot regarding whether they are right for you. Research each dealer as well. They are the ones taking care of you and whether the dealer is good or bad can make or break your ownership experience.
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Marco, I just got a Bullfrog A8 a couple of weeks ago. Like the other poster said, definitely wet test (aka get inside one with water in it) and literally spend at least 20 minutes assessing all of the features, Jets etc. I’d say 100% make sure you try out the Oscillator jet pack when you test the Bullfrog- that thing is incredible. I’m very happy with mine so far, except for the Driftwood cabinet- there’s a single black mark on it that looks like a motorcycle burned rubber- not close to what they advertise in pictures. It’s apparently hit or miss and lots of inconsistency with that selection, so if you go with Bullfrog, I personally would recommend going with a different cabinet, unless you wanna roll the dice w Driftwood.
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The V94L is a nice tub. The Whitewater-4/volcano Jet in the center is a cool jet if you have kids for them to play around in, or something to wow your friends with. It also feels good on the bottom of your feet. MicroSilk has been an increasingly popular option, we have an employee at our store that has eczema, and he started soaking in the MicroSilk demo model in the showroom and it literally went away! If you or any family members have any skin conditions, it might be a nice thing to have.
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me being the older kid in the family of 4, we are leaning closer to the v94L. the white water-4 jet is the main reason as we looked at masterspas, and while we didnt like their spas too much, the master blaster jets felt good on our hands. we have not wet tested and probably wont.
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Not sure if you’ve seen the Whitewater-4 jet running, I just found this video that gives you an idea on the power of that jet:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6wln6gMGX8
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i have! we went to the dealer and one of the floor models was a v94. i think it had the lounger, and microsilk. the whitewater jet was amazing!
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Oh sweet! What part of the country are you in?
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Beaverton, oregon! their salesman was very nice, and wasn't pressuring to make a sale. he said to look around, and see different brands. we looked at master spa, and some other ones, but we really like how they are made in oregon. the V94L also suits our needs almost perfectly.
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No way, small world. I work in the back office of the Beaverton location. If you end up getting the tub I will get some extra supplies added to your order at no charge for being a forum friend! All of the stores in this area are actually a division of the Marquis factory, so we will be here forever to service you if there is ever an issue.
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Wow! i may have even met you! I might be there saturday, so i might see you. a quick question, does larger debris get trapped in a basket, or does it go directly to the filters. is there a small basket before the pleated filters?
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Marco, I just got a Bullfrog A8 a couple of weeks ago. Like the other poster said, definitely wet test (aka get inside one with water in it) and literally spend at least 20 minutes assessing all of the features, Jets etc. I’d say 100% make sure you try out the Oscillator jet pack when you test the Bullfrog- that thing is incredible. I’m very happy with mine so far, except for the Driftwood cabinet- there’s a single black mark on it that looks like a motorcycle burned rubber- not close to what they advertise in pictures. It’s apparently hit or miss and lots of inconsistency with that selection, so if you go with Bullfrog, I personally would recommend going with a different cabinet, unless you wanna roll the dice w Driftwood.
You should still be covered under warranty...I would take pictures of it into your dealer and ask for a replacement.
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Beaverton, oregon! their salesman was very nice, and wasn't pressuring to make a sale. he said to look around, and see different brands. we looked at master spa, and some other ones, but we really like how they are made in oregon. the V94L also suits our needs almost perfectly.
The dealer is literally just as important or MORE as the spa selection itself as the dealer will be the one to support you/help if you ever run into issues or have questions.
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Of course the first thing I did was call my dealer Bradley. But Nope. Dealer said their Driftwood cabinets at the store had the same issue and I could even come look at them, and that it's a production/manufacturing issue etc etc etc. After a dozen or so emails to Bullfrog, I decided to put my fav hockey team logo over it. They reluctantly agreed they'd send me a new front cabinet but "it could be the exact same as what it looks like now" and couldn't guarantee what it would look like. They have severe production problems w driftwood and it's obvious. Brochures, online pics etc will show a grey-ish cabinet with reasonably consistent dark/black horizontal streaks here and there- and it looks good. What they are delivering to customers and to the dealers simply doesn't look that way. Zero consistency. Love everything else about my A8.
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Thats an interesting error with the driftwood panel. yeah, as I said, the dealer we talked to was super nice, willing to answer all questions, and not pressuring. same is not to say for the Master Spas salesman.
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Thats an interesting error with the driftwood panel. yeah, as I said, the dealer we talked to was super nice, willing to answer all questions, and not pressuring. same is not to say for the Master Spas salesman.
You're not missing much by skipping Master. There are many people on this site who will list their top 4 or top 6 ... brands they recommend. Marquis and Bullfrog will make many of those lists, Master won't.
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we went to their "Spa and barbeque show"
and instead of 100's of manufacturers, theres one manufacturer and around 15 small to large spas. also no BBQ in sight either. the salesman was badmouthing just about everything. and get this. I KNEW MORE THAN THE SALESMAN. also, their no chemical stuff is complete fakery. the hot tubs on the floor seemed good but you could smell chlorine. may have been from the swim spa however. speaking of which their swim spas seemed ok. i didnt look closely however. their no chemical filters looked like someone had just splattered them with paint. he also had issues getting the jets in the running tub to turn on. he tried to pass it off as "The water levels too low" even though it was halfway between the weir and the top of the skimmer. they were using balboa screens and packs, but the screens somehow looked different. then we looked at one of their small spas. the controller looked like it was from the 90s. it had an LED screen, and looked really yellowed. then, I wandered off, and found a spa with its maintenance hatch open. WHAT A MESS! there was a pipe capped off with literal liquid nails, there appeared to be a leak, as there was standing water in the spa pan even though it wasnt full, and it overall looked terrible. the only thing good about their spas was the master blaster jet. and possibly the reverse molded shoulder jets. although they looked way too powerful for my family. not to mention the diverter valves were horribly stiff, there was a guy VAPING in the corner, and the spa paneling was too short for the spa. :P
Also, forgot to mention, but me and My mother have whats called "Goose Skin" I believe. will micro silk help?
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I sadly was not able to make it today. i may get there tomorrow, I have no idea.
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we went to their "Spa and barbeque show"
and instead of 100's of manufacturers, theres one manufacturer and around 15 small to large spas. also no BBQ in sight either. the salesman was badmouthing just about everything. and get this. I KNEW MORE THAN THE SALESMAN. also, their no chemical stuff is complete fakery. the hot tubs on the floor seemed good but you could smell chlorine. may have been from the swim spa however. speaking of which their swim spas seemed ok. i didnt look closely however. their no chemical filters looked like someone had just splattered them with paint. he also had issues getting the jets in the running tub to turn on. he tried to pass it off as "The water levels too low" even though it was halfway between the weir and the top of the skimmer. they were using balboa screens and packs, but the screens somehow looked different. then we looked at one of their small spas. the controller looked like it was from the 90s. it had an LED screen, and looked really yellowed. then, I wandered off, and found a spa with its maintenance hatch open. WHAT A MESS! there was a pipe capped off with literal liquid nails, there appeared to be a leak, as there was standing water in the spa pan even though it wasnt full, and it overall looked terrible. the only thing good about their spas was the master blaster jet. and possibly the reverse molded shoulder jets. although they looked way too powerful for my family. not to mention the diverter valves were horribly stiff, there was a guy VAPING in the corner, and the spa paneling was too short for the spa. :P
Also, forgot to mention, but me and My mother have whats called "Goose Skin" I believe. will micro silk help?
Sounds about right. The whole thing is a joke. It's now called 888spasale but the website is still spapoolandbbqshow.com. Never been a bbq or pool there ever. Company is sooooo shady. I don't get it. You can be still be a successful business person without lying and scamming people. Why be a scumbag?
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yeah. I might be able to make it today, after getting shoes at nordstrom. are you open?
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yeah. I might be able to make it today, after getting shoes at nordstrom. are you open?
Sorry, just saw your message. We are open 7 days a week, come on in anytime. See you soon.
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we have decided we are going to look at it tomorrow. hopefully it works, as I have had to cancel coming as things keep popping up. we have a spot in the yard picked out, what things should we do in preparation for a spa?
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we have decided we are going to look at it tomorrow. hopefully it works, as I have had to cancel coming as things keep popping up. we have a spot in the yard picked out, what things should we do in preparation for a spa?
Test your source water so you don't get a bunch of unneeded water balancing products.
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ok. what should i look for that would be bad?
how should I test the water?
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ok. what should i look for that would be bad?
how should I test the water?
Take a sample of it into a local dealer...They should be able to run some good tests on it for you.
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ok. what should i look for that would be bad?
how should I test the water?
A lot of dealers include some products with the sale. For instance they will give you a product that raises PH and Alk. But your water needs products that lower PH and Alk. So you sit on a product you will never use.
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how much should i take?
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how much should i take?
Not much...At least a few OZ.
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ok. I assume i should get the water from where we plan to fill the tub from?
how long will a 449 gallon V94L take to fill?
and should we put a concrete slab there?
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Hi Marco, the fill time will depend on your water pressure. Typically it will take about 45 minutes to fill a V94L. We always recommend a concrete slab or a sturdy wood platform/deck to place the hot tub on. Most people use a garden hose from a nearby faucet to fill the hot tub.