Hot Tub Forum
Original => Hot Tub Forum => Topic started by: deathvalley on August 11, 2004, 01:25:25 pm
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Greetings -
I am a Newbie here! Looks like a great board to learn about spas!
My wife and I are looking to buy a new spa SOON! When is the slow period? Is it now? I live in the South. When does it start picking back up?
Thanks in advance!
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I did notice that most dealers we spoke to and some of their tech's suggested that January to March was their slow period. But they did say that a strong reason for that was their other lines like the pool sections which shut down in winter.
Buit you know dealers are probably best placed to answer here.
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doodoo -
just curious but if pool business is slow Jan to Mar, then would spa business be up? As a result, they would be less willing to negotiate? Just curious.
D/C
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doodoo -
just curious but if pool business is slow Jan to Mar, then would spa business be up? As a result, they would be less willing to negotiate? Just curious.
D/C
talk to the hand!
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D/C has 146 posts, and STILL no spa? Me thinks he just likes to play games.
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Well, if I got some help from this forum and not all the sarcasim maybe I will buy one!
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Call Thermospa. They come to your door and sell you direct, so no overhead thus removing the evil dealer. And they retain the finest tech's to meet your warranty needs.
Last reply to D/C from doodoo. Man what a waste of time. >:(
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Wow! What's the deal with DC?
So, when is the best time? Is Doodoo right?
Thanks people and lets play nice! :)
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There is some thought to companies that sell spas and pools being slower in the winter. 2/3 of the places I visited were spas only though. Just guessing that many people (but you said you were in the south) up in the north, don't want to do the concrete and electrical work in teh winter. I bought in March, installed in April and think I got a good deal) ;D I till think the best time to deal is on your 2nd or 3rd visit to the same dealer, then they know you are serious.
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D/C
What type of help would you like? Each and every one of us is here to help, but unfortunately we will not give up our price. It is absolutely inappropriate to ask. Dealers make a profit, but so are Microsoft, Disney, and General Electric.
What do you want us to help you with? Ask a question you will get an answer. Look at the thread “How long to heat up Caspian.” There are 4 different people trying to help. We want to help you, but you are being unrealistic with your desires. When you are unrealistic, people will get extremely sarcastic. Unfortunately, you have turned into a nuisance.
Ask yourself, has needaspa came back and said he purchased his Optima for $6,500? No, he hasn’t. I doubt he will be. He was unrealistic. So are you.
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Welcome Newbie!
It completely depends on the dealer.
i.e. If you are looking for a good deal alot of dealers will discount "last years" models. They might have them 6 months into the year for smaller dealers or be out of them in 2 months.
What are you looking for?
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Welcome Newbie!
It completely depends on the dealer.
i.e. If you are looking for a good deal alot of dealers will discount "last years" models. They might have them 6 months into the year for smaller dealers or be out of them in 2 months.
What are you looking for?
Winter months are usually the best time a floor model IF you do not care about the colour or options available.
Also, some companies will have truckload/parking lot/liquidation/scratch and dent type sales at different times of the year. Spring and fall are popular times for these events.
Joe
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Well, if I got some help from this forum and not all the sarcasim maybe I will buy one!
So now the forum is to blame. Boo-Hoo. Take your dolly and go home.
Brewman
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Well, if I got some help from this forum and not all the sarcasim maybe I will buy one!
D/C You have had more help from this forum than anyone else has ever had. After 146 postings it is time.
Go buy your Spa!
DeathValley - January to March are the best months to buy. Very slow for dealers and they are clearing their floor models.
Do a search and look for "How to negotiate and Buy a Hot Tub on this Forum. ZzTop
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Call Thermospa. They come to your door and sell you direct, so no overhead thus removing the evil dealer. And they retain the finest tech's to meet your warranty needs.
Last reply to D/C from doodoo. Man what a waste of time. >:(
Your name makes me laugh! Thermospa, I have never heard of them. Do they come to the East Coast? Sounds good, but I am still nervous about calling someone until I know a little more about spas. ;)
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Thermospas are based in PA, and their sales techniques are just like window and gutter/siding salesman. They quote one price, you say too high. They check figures - ok can do better. Nope, still too high. Then they "make a call." Of course the price isnt what you expect. They dont leave till you practically throw them out the door.
From posts online on this and other boards, youll see their service is terrible, and they take FOREVER to get any work done.
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Your name makes me laugh! Thermospa, I have never heard of them. Do they come to the East Coast? Sounds good, but I am still nervous about calling someone until I know a little more about spas. ;)
The handle has a long history with my significant other. In a very indearing way. It does bring some chuckles though.
I am re-posting my experience with Thermospas. I really don't suggest you go with them as a matter of fact quite the contrary. My post was for D&C to doodoo or get of the pot. LOL!
Thermospas sells in your home and does not have stores. They claim lots and history and posts here and on other borads prove quite different. So I really don't recommend it.
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Well, at the start of our search for a tub we invited a sales rep from Thermospa and we met him on Saturday January 10th of this year at our house. Let me share this with you. RUN........ RUN AWAY from that individual and never invite anyone from that company again.
May sound like I am biased but after spending an hour and a half with one of their sales rep ........ well since some of you asked, here is my story. I'll keep it short!
Ding dong. Open the door and greet the sales rep. Pleasant enough, show him where the tub is going to go. Very nice he says, invite him to sit down in the living room and offer coffee which he accepted. He spots some literature on the coffee table that are publications from other Hot Tub manufacturers (Sundance, D1, Jacuzzi, Beachcomber, Caldera, and a few others that we had downloaded information on but had not yet visited in a show room. He acknowledges these publications and makes a cursive comment about Thermospas being the leader among all of the hot tubs shown on our coffee table.
The next hour was nothing more than a comparitive presentation of Thermospas' superiority over all of the aforementioned.
At the one hour mark he pulled out some prices on Thermospas but zoned in on one that he highly recommended for us as that model best 'fit our needs'. He continued as he began writing up an offer which consisted of two prices. One that was his special of today and the other which was his regular price on the same sheet.
And that is where it went from bad to worse. The pressure tactics of a sharlatan, (tell you the truth he wasn't even really good at that). No longer was he speaking about the superiority of Thermospa over the others, but rather that he was offering us a unbelievable deal and that it was only available that day and that we needed to provide him with a deposit of 50%. So why delay
The 'special' was $14825 including taxes, cover, lifter, step, coloured lens? and some chemicals. Basically he was looking for $7,412.50. I looked at my wife (we had by now read each others mind) and discussed the fact that should we do this we would need to transfer money from our GIC's to our chequing account and that would take a few days so we could not cover the cheque. He thought about this a nano second and informed us that he could sit on the cheque a few days and he would speak to the sales manager about this special situation.
Done deal he thought, so he began to finalize the sales order, when I began asking him about rumors and stories about warranty, production quality, customer support, etc.... to which he responded, and I quote 'we have a no fault bumper to bumper 7 year warranty' and 'whenever a client has a problem, Thermospa is there within 48 hrs'.
I pulled a printout of several websites that had sooooooo many consumer complaints about Thermospas that I lost count and asked him about that. (I had literally downloaded these that morning, thank the spa gods) His explanation, get this, that it was most likely their competitors that were putting up these posts in an attempt to discredit their product.
I thanked him for his time and said that we would think about it but that prior to purchasing a hot tub we would need to wet test his product. He explained that that was impossible as he sold his tubs direct from the manufacturer and that was why he could offer us such a great deal. He twiced tried to interject so that we would commit and he then informed us that if we signed, he would obtain the permission of a owner near us so that we could wet test their Thermospa. Logic in that? I responded that that was a little stupid! Like putting the cart before the horse.
We, to his major dissapointment, did not sign. He was quite agressive at the end trying to get us to sign. We never kept track but he did call a number of times to inquire about our decision. I finally told him that we had bought the Sundance Optima, to which he responded 'good luck, you'll need it'.
BTW, if there are any Thermospa owners out there who are happy with their tub, I apologise to you about this post. Anybody else want to take it up with me about my trashing Thermospa, bring it on. IMHO and sales experience, they are absolutely the worst and will not apologise about that.
Would you buy a car without driving it first??