Hot Tub Forum
Original => Hot Tub Forum => Topic started by: mpkelley20 on June 20, 2016, 04:20:17 pm
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I'm sure I am beating a dead horse here but I am looking for some feedback on pricing.
I am looking at 4 models and the below prices include a cover, lifter, ozonator, steps, $1-4 credit for chemicals and "ordinary" delivery.
1. Sundance Certa - $9,995
2. Sundance Chelsea - $10,995
3. Hot Springs Flair - $8,995
4. Hot Springs Pulse - $9,995
These prices are on the basic hot tub with no added features other than what is mentioned above. I am not sure how much wiggle room there is with negotiating prices but it seems like there is either zero or quite a bit depending on the vendor. The vendor here is very well know in our area and has serviced my neighbor for over 12 years with glowing reviews. That definitely accounts for something!
Thanks in advance.
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I think the HS prices are in line, Sundance seems a bit high.
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Thanks! I'm still in early stages right now but understanding these costs early on is important to me since I know I still have to pay electric and ongoing chemicals and power costs.
Right now, based solely on looks, I like the HS better. But I need to learn more about the inter and and spend more time sitting in them. My wife does not like the lounge seat so that's why we are considering the Chelsea or pulse.
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My wife wants me to consider a smaller tub like the HS Glow. So guess I am now looking at that one as well! Although I feel like if we go too small, we will regret it. I don't see us having parties where we will have lots of people over to use it so most I see is 4 of us (wife and I and our two kids). But I still feel like it will be too small.....
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Ok...got two more quotes on two different models
1. HS Glow - $7995 - This seems high to me for what you get with a tub this small. So if this is a decent price, I would rather spend $1K more for the Flair or $2K more for the Pulse.
2. Jaccuzi J-345 (for the open seating) - $11,500 ($11,000 after $500 rebate). I can't find any pricing ranges on this other than stuff from 2012 where those prices were well below 10K...more like 8 to 9K.
Thoughts?
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Agree with Jim...Glow is in line. Same equipment as Flair and Pulse, hence the price.
Jacuzzi seems high.
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Thank you! The prices I am getting from the dealer are "rough prices" so I can push a little I think. My next step is to go back again and sit in them to see what they feel like. I did a lot this past weekend but I was looking at so many I don't remember which ones I sat in and which ones I did not!
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Is this all from 1 dealer?
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My wife wants me to consider a smaller tub like the HS Glow. So guess I am now looking at that one as well! Although I feel like if we go too small, we will regret it. I don't see us having parties where we will have lots of people over to use it so most I see is 4 of us (wife and I and our two kids). But I still feel like it will be too small.....
I'm with you, people complain far more often afterward that they wish they had gone bigger than you'll hear them complain about getting bigger than they need and $1k spread out over the life of a spa isn't that much more (though I know its not my $$ we're talking about ;))!
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Is this all from 1 dealer?
Yes. It is a dealer that has been around for a while in my area and one that my neighbor has used for the last 12 years with nothing but great things to say about them. One of my cousins used them as well with great results.
They carry Sundance, Hot Springs and Jacuzzi. They have a nice showroom that I can eventually wet test some of these. The pricing they have given me is "worst case" from what they say. They stock inventory so if I am not stuck on a color combination that needs to be ordered, there is room to work.
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I'm with you, people complain far more often afterward that they wish they had gone bigger than you'll hear them complain about getting bigger than they need and $1k spread out over the life of a spa isn't that much more (though I know its not my $$ we're talking about ;))!
So far, since November, I have bought solar panels for my house, put in a brand new very large driveway and did some landscaping. This is an unscheduled purchase to say the least! But we have an in-ground pool that is 3 years old that we spend a ton of time at with our kids and we were given a "lazy spa" inflatable hot tub last year that we seemed to spend just as much time in as the pool. The pump died so that is why we are considering a "real" hot tub. Plus, this can be used year round vs the inflatable one which could not. We are not huge travelers so our pool area is kind of our sanctuary. A hot tub will add to that (at least this is what I keep telling myself!)
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Well, things change quickly when you visit the showroom again. I am now considering the Sundance Optima.... My two choices are the HS Pulse which I quoted price above and the Optima which I could get for $12,400. I know they are two different levels of spa being mid range vs high end so the benefits to the optima are somewhat clear. I like the seating and jets in the sundance better than the HS but I like the headrests and lighting better in the HS.
So now I am down to the final stages here. Is the Optima price in line with others? The price includes delivery, stairs, cover, lift, chemicals and an ozanator.
Thanks
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Tried pressing harder on price for the Optima but they say that is there bottom price. Since we are in MA, I think we get crappier pricing because of shipping....
Another decision is color. Wife like Monaco. I like Platinum. Both with mahogany bases. Does anyone here have Monaco? How does the lighting look?
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NE spas is where it sounds like where you are shopping. They are known to be a bit higher with there prices but have great customer service. I'm in the southeast part of the state and go head to head with them every now and then
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Feel free to PM me you info. I am in East bridgewater area so possibly nearby.
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Well, been a few months since I almost bought a tub. Seeing a few other brands on this forum above Sundance and Hot Springs made me want to go check them out. I went and looked at some Caldera and Marquis but the dealer did not have the specific ones I was considering in stock. The dealer actually ordered them in the colors I wanted with no obligation to buy. He called me end of last week and we arranged a wet test. I was most interested in the Marquis Promise because of size, power of jets (especially the leg massage jets in this tub), different seat heights and the fact that it is made in the U.S. (sure some parts are probably made elsewhere....you can't win them all). I also tested a Caldera spa (forget the name).
The Promise was very nice and I was comfortable in every seat. Loved the look, lights, fountains...everything. So I currently have a deposit on it until my electrician can come out and tell me the tub can go where I want it to go. So I am very happy right now!
The Caldera was nice (it was a utopia model) but I was floating quite a bit in it vs. the Marquis.
I never wet tested the Optima. My issue was the price around that. The Marquis is $4500 less than the Optima and it has what I want and I loved how it felt.
Now the waiting begins until my electrician comes back from vacation!
And HUGE shout out to Hottubguy for working with me on my search. He never once acted like a sales guy. No talking me into something bigger or more expensive. And zero pressure to "buy now" like my other experiences. Not sure if it is OK to mention companies but he owns Apollo Pools in Lakeville. Excellent place!
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Look forward to working with you!
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Hottubguy has been very informative in my short time posting on here. Great resource to have not only close to home, but also as your selling dealer! Congrats on the purchase!
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Finalized my purchase this weekend. Stayed with the Promise. Brought the wife and kids to see it and they all loved it (although the kids would have preferred the Caldera Canterbury which is the size of a house).
Thanks again to Hottubguy for his patience, willingness to help regardless of what I bought and for having a great sale this past weekend.
As for delivery, it is ready to go on his end but I have some garage cleaning to do so my electrician can run the lines. Hoping to have this all setup in about 2 weeks but could easily be 4. Unless Hottubguy wants to come over and help clean. :)
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Finalized my purchase this weekend. Stayed with the Promise. Brought the wife and kids to see it and they all loved it (although the kids would have preferred the Caldera Canterbury which is the size of a house).
Thanks again to Hottubguy for his patience, willingness to help regardless of what I bought and for having a great sale this past weekend.
As for delivery, it is ready to go on his end but I have some garage cleaning to do so my electrician can run the lines. Hoping to have this all setup in about 2 weeks but could easily be 4. Unless Hottubguy wants to come over and help clean. :)
Thank you Mr Kelley! It was a pleasure doing business with you. My wife is a hell of a cleaner but she doesn't come cheap....I'm going to be busy delivering quite a few new tubs these next couple of weeks. Are fall sale ended up going very well!
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Good to hear. You had a million tubs on display. That Vector 94 in Tuscan was beautiful. Just a tad too big!
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My tub was delivered yesterday! Electrical getting done tomorrow so hopefully will be up and running for some soaking either late tomorrow night or Sunday!
Again, thanks to Matt (Hottubguy) and his crew for their service so far. The delivery was scheduled pretty quickly to accommodate my electrician's availability so he had his crew working pretty late yesterday. Much appreciated.
I will post up pics later when I can access my cloud sites on my home computer.
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Let me know when electrical is all set. I can come by tomorrow after I leave work to go over operating of the tub with you. Glad we could get it to you so quick. Fortunately for me my guys love getting all the overtime they can get so they don't mind working late. Will talk soon!
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Congrats, the Marquis Promise is a great tub. I am thinking about downsizing from the Epic model to the Promise very soon.
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I've spent the last two nights in my tub after my workouts. What a difference it makes! I still can't decide which is my favorite seat in the tub. Each one is so different and I am really enjoying the more shallow seats which is surprising. But I would probably lean towards the left hand deep seat (which is the seconds deepest). That seems to be where a gravitate towards more often. And the two Hot Zone leg jets are insane. I am very happy with the Promise. I definitely did not need a bigger tub. Glad I didn't jump on that Optima which was close to twice the price....
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Glad you are enjoying it Matt. Glad are paths crossed on this site. I'm sure we will talk soon, for now enjoy it!