Hot Tub Forum
Original => Hot Tub Forum => Topic started by: Debo on September 09, 2014, 09:31:00 pm
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I am looking to buy a used coleman 471. The dealer says it is one made by Maax. I've seen good reviews for this tub "back in the day" but is it okay to buy one so old? They are charging $3400 which includes delivery. Any insight would be greatly appreciated!
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I am looking to buy a used coleman 471. The dealer says it is one made by Maax. I've seen good reviews for this tub "back in the day" but is it okay to buy one so old? They are charging $3400 which includes delivery. Any insight would be greatly appreciated!
How old is "so old"? Does it include some kind of store warranty?
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I am suppose to find out today the actual age. The dealer has to look up the serial number for me. From what I am assuming its at least 7 years old but could be as old as 10 years (based on when Maax was using the Coleman name). No warranty other than if there is a problem within 10 days of them setting it up they will come back and fix it free of charge.
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Just got off the phone with the dealer it's a 2006
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Any opinions at all?? Is $3400 to much for 2006 tub???
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In my opinion, yes it is. You can do much better than that. On the other hand, if you are in love with this tub, I would ask for a 90 day warranty with the purchase. If the dealer doesn't agree to that, something might be wrong with it.
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Thanks!! Unfortunately I have called EVERYONE and this dealer is the only one you sells used tubs. Guess there isn't a market for them around here. And it's not possible for me to buy a used one privately cause movers around here charge $800! Oh well I guess I'll pay more but I will ask for a warranty!
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Thanks!! Unfortunately I have called EVERYONE and this dealer is the only one you sells used tubs. Guess there isn't a market for them around here. And it's not possible for me to buy a used one privately cause movers around here charge $800! Oh well I guess I'll pay more but I will ask for a warranty!
All spa prices are negotiable in some way, especially on an 8 year old used spa. I haven't seen it so it might be a great shape for its age but I think the price should be better and I would not budge on wanting a 60 day warranty and if they truly refurbed it that's not asking for too much for them to honor (there may be some things they exclude but for the most part that's not asking for much).
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Even at $800 charged by movers you might be able to beat that price, or get a better tub for your money buying from an individual.
p.s. just wondering where is here?
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Even at $800 charged by movers you might be able to beat that price, or get a better tub for your money buying from an individual.
p.s. just wondering where is here?
Here is central Florida. I live in a very small rural town called Bushnell
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Any suggestions what a fair price would be?
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Used, as is, sitting in someone's backyard, I'd go maybe up to $2000.00...and that's pushing the limits, based on condition. So you'd really be looking at $2800, including hiring a mover. The dealer is just $600 higher....but I have NO doubt they got it for free (or close to), either as a trade in or elsewhere. At $3400, I would expect it to be in immaculate condition! New cover, new cover lifter, new steps, ALL gaskets and seals replaced, new filter, and skirt completely restored to looking like new...maybe even the heater replaced for good measures. Even then, I don't think I'd take it with only a 10 day warranty. 90 days maybe.
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Agreed, it may have a couple/three more years in it but not a lot more. Getting 10 years out of a middle of the road tub is good. Is paying 1700 a year worth it if you can buy new for 8 grand and get 10-15 years? 6 grand get 8-12 years. Not IMO with that brand.
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Just my $.02, they are asking over half of new cost for an 8 year old tub, and NOT giving any real warranty with it, would you pay 50% of new cost for an 8 year old car with a 7 day warranty? Keep in mind hot tubs typically depreciate worse than cars.
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Is Maax not a good brand? I was really interested in it because it was designed by a chiropractor and my husband has a really bad back.
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Maxx is lower middle of the road. The chiropractor thing is hype.
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Have you wet tested this spa???? More importantly, has your husband? Just because "it was designed by a chiropractor" (what a load of sales crock), doesn't mean it will be any better than anything else. Maax is generally a middle of the road spa...though, the pros consider things more like durability and fit and finish when judging quality. Comfort is purely a personal preference.
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Have you wet tested this spa???? More importantly, has your husband? Just because "it was designed by a chiropractor" (what a load of sales crock), doesn't mean it will be any better than anything else. Maax is generally a middle of the road spa...though, the pros consider things more like durability and fit and finish when judging quality. Comfort is purely a personal preference.
I am taking my husband there today to see it but I don't think we can wet test the tub but I will for sure ask. If he likes it the. I will also negotiate the price but I am honestly NOT good at this! All your advice has definitely helped me and will hopefully give me more courage while negotiating!
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I agree with Tman. You would be much better off buying a new, quality tub. If this tub lasts you only two or three years, what will you do then? Service is not cheap and it would cost you to have the old tub removed. There are many good spa manufacturers. Check the threads here and you will get an idea of what is available. What ever your final decision, good luck!
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I agree with Tman. You would be much better off buying a new, quality tub. If this tub lasts you only two or three years, what will you do then? Service is not cheap and it would cost you to have the old tub removed. There are many good spa manufacturers. Check the threads here and you will get an idea of what is available. What ever your final decision, good luck!
Thanks for the advice! Unfortunately, a new tub is not in my budget at all right now. Unless I want to buy Laguna Bay at the "blow out" price of $2800 :-/ Ugh, I never knew this process would be so stressful!
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What about a 3 yr old Marque Mirage? There is an older couple selling theirs. They are asking $3,000 but I'd probably offer them 2,000. Any advice on this tub?
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Perhaps saving more money for a tub that will last a while is the thing to do? Just saying. Hot tub repairs can get expensive, fast. If two years is all you want from this tub, than go for it.
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What about a 3 yr old Marque Mirage? There is an older couple selling theirs. They are asking $3,000 but I'd probably offer them 2,000. Any advice on this tub?
Marquis is an higher end product. If it has been well maintained that could last you another 8-10 years. See how this works? Per year the Marquis will be about 1/10th the cost of that Maxx
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What about a 3 yr old Marque Mirage? There is an older couple selling theirs. They are asking $3,000 but I'd probably offer them 2,000. Any advice on this tub?
Marquis is an higher end product. If it has been well maintained that could last you another 8-10 years. See how this works? Per year the Marquis will be about 1/10th the cost of that Maxx
Awesome. I have looked at this model online and I definitely like what I see. Would I be "low balling" them by offering $2000?
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$2,000 might be a bit low, but remember some people just want the tub gone for whatever reason, I have found such negociations start better if you don't start at a round number, maybe start at $2,100 and see where it goes from there.
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We're going to wet test the marquis now!! Excited! Wish me luck! Thank you all for your valued advice!!
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Ok so the tub was actually a 2009 model and the lady wasn't to keen on coming down on the price. The dealer had told her to sell it for $3500. So I ended up spending $2700. Still way cheaper than the older coleman I was looking at.
My question is, my electrician is planning on straight wiring the tub with a 240v. Is that even possible? The tub has a plug attached to it.
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From the 2009 owners manual;
Convert 120 Volt to 240 Volt
120 Volt spas may be converted to operate on 240V, 50A. All connections
must be made by a licensed electrician.
1. Disconnect the power by unplugging the power cord from the receptacle,
removing the cord from the terminal block on the circuit board, and storing it
with your owner’s manual.
2. Locate the white wire connecting J11 to J32 on the circuit board. Remove
the wire and discard.
3. For 50A operation, move dip switch 10 to the OFF position.
4. Install 240V power as indicated in the 240 Volt section.
5. Rated 240V, 60Hz, 50A, three wires (#6 copper) plus ground (#8 copper),
[4 wires total].
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From the 2009 owners manual;
Convert 120 Volt to 240 Volt
120 Volt spas may be converted to operate on 240V, 50A. All connections
must be made by a licensed electrician.
1. Disconnect the power by unplugging the power cord from the receptacle,
removing the cord from the terminal block on the circuit board, and storing it
with your owner’s manual.
2. Locate the white wire connecting J11 to J32 on the circuit board. Remove
the wire and discard.
3. For 50A operation, move dip switch 10 to the OFF position.
4. Install 240V power as indicated in the 240 Volt section.
5. Rated 240V, 60Hz, 50A, three wires (#6 copper) plus ground (#8 copper),
[4 wires total].
Thanks!! Do you think I over paid??
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It is all about condition, if it has been sheltered from the elements and everything works I think you did fairly good, not a steal, but not too bad either.
ps you may want this www.marquisspas.com/documents/2009/09_OwnersManual.pdf