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Original => Hot Tub Forum => Topic started by: brillskill on June 17, 2013, 02:37:14 pm

Title: great tub in the $5000 range
Post by: brillskill on June 17, 2013, 02:37:14 pm
http://www.costco.com/Evolution-Spas%e2%84%a2-Cedar-Creek-70-jet%2c-6-person-Spas.product.100038292.html
Title: Re: great tub in the $5000 range
Post by: bimmerdog on June 17, 2013, 02:50:49 pm
Good looking tub for the money
Title: Re: great tub in the $5000 range
Post by: Spatech_tuo on June 17, 2013, 05:02:23 pm
http://www.costco.com/Evolution-Spas%e2%84%a2-Cedar-Creek-70-jet%2c-6-person-Spas.product.100038292.html

How do you conclude its great? I agree with Bimmer that it "looks good" but looking good doesn't really mean that much on its own to me (i.e. my wife's Pontiac Fiero from 1988). We may have to disagree on what it takes to qualify as a "great" tub and since you don't own one I'm wondering how you have determined this.
Title: Re: great tub in the $5000 range
Post by: Tman122 on June 17, 2013, 06:25:40 pm
I would say Costco buys them bulk for about 4 grand and sells them for 4999. So it looks like a 4999 tub to me. I am sure Strong makes enough at 4000 grand to keep the doors open as long as they adjust the manufacturing process.
Title: Re: great tub in the $5000 range
Post by: brillskill on June 17, 2013, 07:12:30 pm
I love your assumptions..I do own one just got it delivered last Friday to my summer house in the hamptons..and in my opinion Only my opinion it's a great tub..argue with me all you want ..unbelievable !
Title: Re: great tub in the $5000 range
Post by: brillskill on June 17, 2013, 07:19:37 pm
Btw the included matching storage steps are excellent
Title: Re: great tub in the $5000 range
Post by: Spatech_tuo on June 17, 2013, 07:25:48 pm
I love your assumptions..I do own one just got it delivered last Friday to my summer house in the hamptons..and in my opinion Only my opinion it's a great tub..argue with me all you want ..unbelievable !

Of course you loved teh assumptions, you planned it to get them since you never stated that you'd just gotten this spa in opening of the thread coupled with the fact that you previously talked about a Cal spa that you recently purchased. I'm not sure what you find "unbelievable", you obviously knew that just posting the link without saying you'd bought it as a second spa would elicit a response that you could then say "aha, I do own one, gotcha..." so it was just as you had believed it would be rather than being "unbelievable".

In the end, congrats on your new spa, hopefully it will all work out well for you.
Title: Re: great tub in the $5000 range
Post by: brillskill on June 17, 2013, 07:29:46 pm
No..seriously I love the geo it's at my house..simple and easy to take care of ..my kids love it..the evolution has much more ..so much more can go wrong..but it's only going to be used on weekends so I hope it holds up..
Title: Re: great tub in the $5000 range
Post by: Hottubguy on June 17, 2013, 09:04:03 pm
Good luck with it.  By the looks of it it looks like a decent spa. Personally I couldn't or wouldn't spend 5k without at least being able to see it in person but that's just me.  Which one to you like better the geo or this one?  Hope you get many years of trouble free hot tubbing out of it! 
Title: Re: great tub in the $5000 range
Post by: Tman122 on June 18, 2013, 06:34:34 am
I don't think either of those tubs would meet my expectations for comfort/quiet/hydrotherapy/longevity. But everyone has different expectations.
Title: Re: great tub in the $5000 range
Post by: brillskill on June 18, 2013, 09:44:37 am
i actually like the evolution better..jets are more powerful and the lighting is very cool..both tubs cost me less than 8500 so my risk is minimal..the geo is just a great entry level ..perfect for kids and a quick soak after the gym or with my wife.(if im lucky)
Title: Re: great tub in the $5000 range
Post by: bimmerdog on June 18, 2013, 10:05:38 am
I personally think it is great that brillskill owns both tubs.  They are very inexpensive tubs compared to some on the market.  At least now when someone comes on here asking about 1. buying one of these tubs  2. buying from Costco  they will get an answer from someone who has actually done it.  I do have to say brillskill is one person if he says his tub sucks or it's great I will believe him.  Some times not selling a certain product helps to have an open mind and try a product that your told is not good.  For me I could not buy either of these tubs because I have to be able to wet test a tub before I buy.  This is why it is great to have choices and I am very happy with my choice and brillskill is happy with his. 
Title: Re: great tub in the $5000 range
Post by: brillskill on June 18, 2013, 10:11:52 am
im just an impulse buyer and for me a hot tub is good for like 10 minutes for a quick hot soak..my neighbors have a grandee they sit in it for hours ..i hang with them and still can only sit in the grandee for like 15 mins..im a swimmer i can swim in my pool for hours..the moral is for me a wet test didnt matter...but if i was going to spend 10 grand or more on anything id check it out hands on..i will say it one more time ..if your budget is 5000 i would def recomend the evolution (while its on sale) sitting in it i can tell you youd think you were in a much more expensive tub
Title: Re: great tub in the $5000 range
Post by: Tman122 on June 18, 2013, 03:50:08 pm
If your budget is 5000 and your expectations are low. And you live in a moderate temperature zone.
Title: Re: great tub in the $5000 range
Post by: brillskill on June 18, 2013, 03:51:52 pm
"if" my aunt had balls, she would be my uncle..Tman stfu already!
Title: Re: great tub in the $5000 range
Post by: Spatech_tuo on June 18, 2013, 04:20:45 pm
Tman stfu already!

You can't wish everyone away that disagrees with you no matter how highly you regard your postion on a particualr issue or brand and his opinion is valued on this site by many.
Title: Re: great tub in the $5000 range
Post by: Dr. Spa™ Ret. on June 18, 2013, 05:32:09 pm
Wow...we're only one step away for declaring a winner based upon the Godwins rule.

Have we crossed over the terms and conditions for use yet?
Title: Re: great tub in the $5000 range
Post by: TwinCitiesHotSpring on June 18, 2013, 05:36:20 pm
Wow...we're only one step away for declaring a winner based upon the Godwins rule.

Have we crossed over the terms and conditions for use yet?

not quite there yet...a few more costco threads should push it past the threshold

 8)
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Title: Re: great tub in the $5000 range
Post by: bimmerdog on June 18, 2013, 06:41:45 pm
The Godwin's law....really.  Also known as Godwin's Rule of Nazi Analogies.  Now I have seen everything. 
Title: Re: great tub in the $5000 range
Post by: Spatech_tuo on June 18, 2013, 07:09:59 pm
The Godwin's law....really.  Also known as Godwin's Rule of Nazi Analogies.  Now I have seen everything.

What exactly do you think you just saw?
Title: Re: great tub in the $5000 range
Post by: brillskill on June 18, 2013, 07:19:20 pm
These 3 guys tea bag each other while soaking in there high quality dealer sold hot tubs
Title: Re: great tub in the $5000 range
Post by: Spatech_tuo on June 18, 2013, 07:39:12 pm
These 3 guys tea bag each other while soaking in there high quality dealer sold hot tubs

So you go from telling people to STFU to this, nice. Stay classy Brillskill!
Title: Re: great tub in the $5000 range
Post by: bimmerdog on June 18, 2013, 07:41:29 pm
The Godwin's law....really.  Also known as Godwin's Rule of Nazi Analogies.  Now I have seen everything.

What exactly do you think you just saw?
Lets see (I will probable get in trouble again but that is fine)  A person who can't formulate his own opinions into words, you have to throw-out a pre-designed Card for you to use that fits the setting you need:  "Godwin's Law Card". Childish

If you don't like a post from some one or you think it is like beating a dead horse.....Don't comment on it and it will fade into Internet space. 

Title: Re: great tub in the $5000 range
Post by: brillskill on June 18, 2013, 07:44:21 pm
Yup..my bad I usually try to be civil especially with people I never personally met on the web..my apologies..
Title: Re: great tub in the $5000 range
Post by: vangoghsear on June 18, 2013, 07:50:24 pm
I am interested in how it does through cold weather.  It has a similar style shell insulation to Arctic and is not full foam, which some people like, some don't.  Does allow it to recycle motor heat, which is good, but I don't see a lot of thickness to the insulation.

Enjoy it.  It seems to have lots of cool bells and whistles.
Title: Re: great tub in the $5000 range
Post by: brillskill on June 18, 2013, 07:55:00 pm
Winter won't be an issue for me as its in a summer home..will be winterized after Labor Day..thx
Title: Re: great tub in the $5000 range
Post by: Dr. Spa™ Ret. on June 18, 2013, 08:50:58 pm
The Godwin's law....really.  Also known as Godwin's Rule of Nazi Analogies.  Now I have seen everything. 

Had to wikipedia that one, eh? hahahahahahaha

Some people just HAVE to get in the last word.
Title: Re: great tub in the $5000 range
Post by: vangoghsear on June 18, 2013, 09:20:45 pm
Winter won't be an issue for me as its in a summer home..will be winterized after Labor Day..thx

That makes sense.  Looks like a lot of tub for the money.  Good luck with it.
Title: Re: great tub in the $5000 range
Post by: Jacuzzi_Kirra on June 18, 2013, 10:02:58 pm
Now your making me think of the evolution spas at Costco. I saw one at Costco and for $5,000 it looks like a pretty good tub. I'd say it would be better spent money buying a new one from Costco with their return policy than buying a 5 to 10 year old used premium hot tub from a dealer in that price range.

Since I'm away from my house in a rental for another year for a work transfer, maybe I'll go buy one of these and be able to give another unbiased feedback. I'm sure it won't measure up to the Jacuzzi J-400 series or Sundance 880 series, but based upon the thread last night on the new hot tub owner that bought a brand spanking new Jacuzzi J-200 series for probably near or slightly over $5,000 and then had multiple leaks and power issues within the first week, basically it was dead on delivery from my viewpoint and his lack of response from his dealer (he hasn't provided any updates today, so this is a guess), I'm sure he wished he could just drag his hot tub back to the local Costco store or call the 800 number for a replacement.

And the best part, no hassle of dealing with dealers or salesman negotiating over the "fair market price" vs MSRP vs their sale price of a relatively inexpensive hot tub. 
Title: Re: great tub in the $5000 range
Post by: Jacuzzi Jim on June 18, 2013, 11:07:30 pm
  I was going to respond with something more intense, but instead..   Good job Kirra, you go girl!!   
Title: Re: great tub in the $5000 range
Post by: brillskill on June 18, 2013, 11:47:18 pm
Again if you are reading this thread..in my opinion only my opinion,I'm am not a hot tub professional just a person who bought this tub..it's a great tub ..pretty quiet,jets are excellent ,lighting is very cool..plus the tub itself looks nice and matching storage steps are great..for 5000 dollars it's a great value...btw love this jacuzzi Kira:)
Title: Re: great tub in the $5000 range
Post by: Jacuzzi Jim on June 19, 2013, 12:20:21 am
 And she/he knows what they are talking about, just like you!
Title: Re: great tub in the $5000 range
Post by: brillskill on June 19, 2013, 12:45:36 am
Yea we both have no clue..sorry for giving my useless opinion
Title: Re: great tub in the $5000 range
Post by: Tman122 on June 19, 2013, 06:30:10 am
Not sure how you can put the label "great value" on a tub that has no proven record for longevity, is a power hog because of insufficient insulation, is underpowered according to both my wet test and several owners who own them and stated so to me personally and other professionals in the MPLS/STP market. But hey someone will value your opinion. After all it has a bunch of pretty lights.
Title: Re: great tub in the $5000 range
Post by: brillskill on June 19, 2013, 09:42:48 am
like i said..im clueless..you guys are the professionals..
Title: Re: great tub in the $5000 range
Post by: Tman122 on June 19, 2013, 05:48:39 pm
like i said..im clueless..you guys are the professionals..

No your not clueless. Your the same as any of the thousands and thousands of new owners of a particular brand we've seen here over the years on their honeymoon with their new tub. They are all fabulous when you first buy them. Hopefully YOU will be the one who sticks around for 5-10 years. A lot have said they will but none have. I think we have a 3-4 year old Costco tub owner around here someplace. But over the years they all seem to fade in a few years.
Title: Re: great tub in the $5000 range
Post by: brillskill on June 19, 2013, 06:43:03 pm
If I get 5 years out of a tub I only paid 3000 and 5000 for I'd be happy..
Title: Re: great tub in the $5000 range
Post by: thearm on June 19, 2013, 10:12:22 pm
I have to pipe in here now. While I wouldn't buy from Costco I did buy a emerald spa from a box store 6 years ago and have had no problems. My wife and I soak almost daily and have from the beginning. While I paid less than 5000 it still is working fine and I have no complaints. I also expect it to last many more years. The difference between us is I understand my tub doesn't work for everybody. Maybe a little less attitude from all involved would help some. Most times if the Owners don't keep posting it is because they are happy with what they have. If they have problems they want to let everybody know. Just my 2 cents. Have a great evening.   
Title: Re: great tub in the $5000 range
Post by: brillskill on June 19, 2013, 10:27:50 pm
I only posted once..just got it less than a week ago..was only trying to help someone who was in the 5000 range for a tub..and I practically got raped..
Title: Re: great tub in the $5000 range
Post by: brillskill on June 19, 2013, 10:30:18 pm
Btw..you would buy from Home Depot or a big box but not Costco..just curious why?
Title: Re: great tub in the $5000 range
Post by: Tman122 on June 20, 2013, 05:46:19 am
Emerald has been selling value tubs for a lot longer than 5 years. They have been doing it for more than 20 I think. And they have sold them everywhere. They have earned a reputation as a solid "value" brand. They have had some problems over the years but have always sold an inexpensive option to a high end better built tub. They have always been a bit higher in energy consumption, shorter warranty, not as quiet or powerful but priced as such.
Title: Re: great tub in the $5000 range
Post by: Spatech_tuo on June 20, 2013, 11:16:04 am
I only posted once..just got it less than a week ago..was only trying to help someone who was in the 5000 range for a tub..and I practically got raped..

I don't understand how you can prod people, call them names and make outrageous statements at times but then at other times you play the victim card as if everyone here is out to get you . Are you like 17 years old or something?
Title: Re: great tub in the $5000 range
Post by: brillskill on June 20, 2013, 11:37:03 am
u must have some real issues..go look at evey post i ever made than look at the responses attacking my humble opinions..why i even respond to you is crazy enough...i promise you one thing i will no longer respond to you ,insult you,or try to be nice..bizarre!
Title: Re: great tub in the $5000 range
Post by: Spatech_tuo on June 20, 2013, 12:49:32 pm
u must have some real issues..go look at evey post i ever made than look at the responses attacking my humble opinions..why i even respond to you is crazy enough...i promise you one thing i will no longer respond to you ,insult you,or try to be nice..bizarre!

Nope, I have no issue with anyone on this site. I don't claim to be a victim when people disagree with me nor do I outright insult people as you've been doing the past few days.

I hope you can keep that promise.
Title: Re: great tub in the $5000 range
Post by: thearm on June 21, 2013, 07:31:53 pm
let me clairify the box store statement. When I stated that I was referring to a hot tub dealer with a actual store that I could visit. A dealer that had been in business for 50 plus years with knowledge in the industry. Some people prefer dealing with independent businesses and others like to go to the big corporations. Makes no difference for some. I would however put more stock in somebody that has experience for several years over a 1 week owner of a spa IMO only. Enjoy and have a great weekend.. 
Title: Re: great tub in the $5000 range
Post by: brillskill on June 21, 2013, 10:42:32 pm
Yes so would I.i merely gave my opinion on a spa I own..just an opinion..nothing more..good weekend to u as well
Title: Re: great tub in the $5000 range
Post by: Tman122 on June 22, 2013, 07:08:45 am
http://www.costco.com/Evolution-Spas%e2%84%a32-Cedar-Creek-70-jet%2c-6-person-Spas.product.100038292.html

To me, and any one else I am sure this seems like your saying it's a great tub for 5 grand in the title and you don't state anything about that being your opinion.

No wonder you got blasted. Well I'm sorry I misinterpreted it also. I guess if you read a few posts down you do state that it's your opinion but it was to late at that point the blasting had already begun. Sorry for misunderstanding. try and be more careful next time.