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Original => Hot Tub Forum => Topic started by: MrTubs on May 04, 2009, 07:44:02 am

Title: La-Z Boy spas
Post by: MrTubs on May 04, 2009, 07:44:02 am
http://www.lazboyspas.com/spas/ , Not http://www.lazboylimitedspa.com/

I going to buy a LZB spas Huntington or the Reserve tub..

Any ideas? Or is the hotspring spas a better choice ??

Help!?

Title: Re: La-Z Boy spas
Post by: Vanguard on May 04, 2009, 09:14:03 am
Considering the fact that the company that made La-Z-Boy is out of business, I'd run away from them as fast as I can.  The La-Z-Boy company only sold a license for their name to a company called Tatum Manufacturing.  They were one of the worst spa companies around and they are now out of business.

You really should be looking at the top names in the industry.  And yes, Hot Spring is a much better choice.

Hot Spring
Jacuzzi
Sundance
Caldera
Dimension 1 (although there are rumors of their pending BK)
Marquis

among others who some folks will list.
Title: Re: La-Z Boy spas
Post by: MrTubs on May 04, 2009, 09:27:01 am
Those are not so common in Europe. Never heard of those before.

And here in Europe thay said that LZB is back in business without tatum. Not true??

Title: Re: La-Z Boy spas
Post by: Spatech_tuo on May 04, 2009, 11:31:43 am
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And here in Europe thay said that LZB is back in business without tatum. Not true??


Not true, if anyone is buying a LaZBoy spa it's a leftover in someone's warehouse and there will be no one there to back the warranty. Even if they were still in business I'd recommend looking for something better (such as the list Vanguard posted).
Title: Re: La-Z Boy spas
Post by: MrTubs on May 04, 2009, 11:34:00 am
Well... I found a reseller for Jacuzzi spas.

Its about 35.000$ (30k euros) for 5-6person So, it Could be good, but its a EXPENSIVE too.  ::)

How about Artic spas? Or Catalina spas?  I live in North Europe  8-)
Title: Re: La-Z Boy spas
Post by: Water Boy on May 04, 2009, 11:57:03 am
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Well... I found a reseller for Jacuzzi spas.

Its about 35.000$ (30k euros) for 5-6person So, it Could be good, but its a EXPENSIVE too.  ::)

How about Artic spas? Or Catalina spas?  I live in North Europe  8-)

I would definitely check out your local Arctic dealer. Arctic is a well respected brand in the industry. They have been spasearch certified three years in a row now, along with some of the others that were mentioned before. Good luck in your search!
http://www.spasearch.org/topspas.php
Title: Re: La-Z Boy spas
Post by: MrTubs on May 04, 2009, 12:08:41 pm
ummm.. weird.. There where cal spas in that list.
I thought that even Sunbelt would be better :)

I dont know anyone in here who likes Calspas :)

Title: Re: La-Z Boy spas
Post by: MrTubs on May 04, 2009, 11:49:20 pm
I dont know, but Artic looks like "old-fashioned".
Crappy lights, weird colors etc. Have to check those others, if I found a reseller
Title: Re: La-Z Boy spas
Post by: MrTubs on May 05, 2009, 02:58:10 am
Can someone help me out?
I thought that these "foamed-spas" like Hotspring are not so good and strong like the "fiberglas etc" spas?
Not true?
Another thing, I'd like to have waterfalls, nice lights, and diffrent kind of jets. Arctic dont have these :(

Insulation is also important thing in here, but Cant find out which are good :P

And I'd like to have this Salt/Bromine purification system, or is it a bad idea? :)

The max price is 20.000e (about 24k$?) , but I think that you guys get these much cheaper there! :)

Title: Re: La-Z Boy spas
Post by: Vanguard on May 05, 2009, 08:46:37 am
Go jump in an empty Hot Spring spa and see how strong they are.  It is just a different way to get the same result.  If someone is telling you that this way is "not so good," they are trying to sell down the competition.

The top tier spas mentioned here have very good insulation.  As long as you stay with one of those brands, you'll be fine.  Stay away from the other spas as their insulation isn't very good.

IMO, the salt system isn't good for spas.  I've sat in a salt one and the warm water and rapidly moving water caused an effervescence that really bothered me.  I'm not a fan of salt in general because of the corrosion I've seen on pool heaters, lights, rails, etc.

Title: Re: La-Z Boy spas
Post by: Water Boy on May 05, 2009, 08:49:26 am
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Can someone help me out?
I thought that these "foamed-spas" like Hotspring are not so good and strong like the "fiberglas etc" spas?
Not true?
Another thing, I'd like to have waterfalls, nice lights, and diffrent kind of jets. Arctic dont have these :(

Insulation is also important thing in here, but Cant find out which are good :P

And I'd like to have this Salt/Bromine purification system, or is it a bad idea? :)

The max price is 20.000e (about 24k$?) , but I think that you guys get these much cheaper there! :)




Um have you seen an Arctic Spa in person. I know Arctic's  website isn’t as up to date as it should be, but Arctic Spas offer lots of the features that you are looking for. That’s fine if Arctic isn’t for you, but I want to make sure you know that they have all of the features that you had mentioned you were looking for. Arctic offers three different lighting options. One is the standard two blue lights. The other is two lights with the Northern Lights option that has 14 different light settings. Also new for 2009 is the Ultimate lighting package where there all of the jets have a LED behind them and every jet in the spa lights up like the Northern Lights does with 14 different lighting options.
http://www.devaderspools.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=22&Itemid=100083

You also said that you wanted a waterfall. Every Arctic Spa comes standard with a cascading waterfall, but the location can vary depending upon model.

Jets. Arctic Spas have different styles of jets all throughout the spa, and also offer a therapy air jet package as well, so different options there.

You were also looking for a salt/bromine system. Arctic has the best salt system on the market today called the Onzen system. Read more about it here:
http://www.devaderspools.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=175&Itemid=100004

Also you mentioned you wanted a strong spa. Arctic Spas has one of the thickest fiberglass hot tub shells in the industry that is backed with a lifetime warranty. Hope that helps. I would definitely check one out in person before you rule them out.

Title: Re: La-Z Boy spas
Post by: MrTubs on May 05, 2009, 09:43:57 am
Yes I checked those with my own eyes..

But there was something i didnt like, in other hand, the seller didnt mentioned those thighs you said :)

I think that Artic is Nice in cabins/mountais views etc, but in the backyard of our house?
Title: Re: La-Z Boy spas
Post by: Water Boy on May 05, 2009, 10:13:15 am
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Yes I checked those with my own eyes..

But there was something i didnt like, in other hand, the seller didnt mentioned those thighs you said :)

I think that Artic is Nice in cabins/mountais views etc, but in the backyard of our house?

Hey, to each his own.  ;) Sorry to hear your dealer didn’t inform you like he should have.

I personally hear day in day out from customers in my store that we have that prettiest cabinet out there, but I can understand that not everyone likes the cedar look.

But, if you don’t like the cedar look, Arctic also offers a maintenance free cabinet similar to most other spas on the market today.

(http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj270/ArcticSpasks/accessories-flex.jpg)

Good luck in your search for the perfect spa.
Title: Re: La-Z Boy spas
Post by: Dr. Spa™ Ret. on May 05, 2009, 01:56:39 pm
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I personally hear day in day out from customers in my store that we have that prettiest cabinet out there, but I can understand that not everyone likes the cedar look.



As a little reality check, and because I like to be a devils advocate sometimes, I'd bet dealers of other brands hear the same thing from their customers as well  ;)
Title: Re: La-Z Boy spas
Post by: Spatech_tuo on May 05, 2009, 02:34:41 pm
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As a little reality check, and because I like to be a devils advocate sometimes, I'd bet dealers of other brands hear the same thing from their customers as well  ;)

Yeah, I was thinking the same thing when I read it earlier but I didn't want to make that response and come off like a XXXX so I figured I'd wait for someone else to do so!  ;D
Title: Re: La-Z Boy spas
Post by: Water Boy on May 05, 2009, 03:02:41 pm
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As a little reality check, and because I like to be a devils advocate sometimes, I'd bet dealers of other brands hear the same thing from their customers as well  ;)

I'm sure that does happen you XXXXX! ;D ::)

In all seriousness I know that other dealers hear that from their customers. I wasn’t born yesterday, so no reality check needed here. But I really do hear that a lot, and even from pool customers that don’t even have an Arctic Spa. For example when we are at the shows, where there are usually 4-5 other dealers with other brands there, random people just walk by that have no interest in spas, but have seen all the spas there, and they will say, " I cant afford a spa right now, but you guys sure have the best looking spas here!" I am not saying this to brag or talk up Arctic, just saying that we hear that all of the time, and even from people who don't own spas. There have been several people through out the years on these forums that have commented about Arctic's cabinet being the best looking as well. So lots of people are saying that, and not just current customers. Maybe you XXXX's just need a reality check on how beautiful the Arctic cabinet truly is!! ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: La-Z Boy spas
Post by: Summitman on May 05, 2009, 03:06:17 pm
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I'm sure that does happen you XXXXX! ;D ::)

In all seriousness I know that other dealers hear that from their customers. I wasn’t born yesterday, so no reality check needed here. But I really do hear that a lot, and even from pool customers that don’t even have an Arctic Spa. For example when we are at the shows, where there are usually 4-5 other dealers with other brands there, random people just walk by that have no interest in spas, but have seen all the spas there, and they will say, " I cant afford a spa right now, but you guys sure have the best looking spas here!" I am not saying this to brag or talk up Arctic, just saying that we hear that all of the time, and even from people who don't own spas. There have been several people through out the years on these forums that have commented about Arctic's cabinet being the best looking as well. So lots of people are saying that, and not just current customers. Maybe you XXXX's just need a reality check on how beautiful the Arctic cabinet truly is!! ;D ;D ;D


+1

Title: Re: La-Z Boy spas
Post by: Dr. Spa™ Ret. on May 05, 2009, 03:33:26 pm
For you my friend, I'll accept the XXXX title......... this time.
Title: Re: La-Z Boy spas
Post by: tony on May 05, 2009, 03:37:56 pm
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I'm sure that does happen you XXXXX! ;D ::)

In all seriousness I know that other dealers hear that from their customers. I wasn’t born yesterday, so no reality check needed here. But I really do hear that a lot, and even from pool customers that don’t even have an Arctic Spa. For example when we are at the shows, where there are usually 4-5 other dealers with other brands there, random people just walk by that have no interest in spas, but have seen all the spas there, and they will say, " I cant afford a spa right now, but you guys sure have the best looking spas here!" I am not saying this to brag or talk up Arctic, just saying that we hear that all of the time, and even from people who don't own spas. There have been several people through out the years on these forums that have commented about Arctic's cabinet being the best looking as well. So lots of people are saying that, and not just current customers. Maybe you XXXX's just need a reality check on how beautiful the Arctic cabinet truly is!! ;D ;D ;D

Arctic wood cabinets are very nice looking.  Though they are not the only company offering wood, they are practically the only company showing them.  When you see a real wood cabinet, expecially redwood or cedar, they are spectacular.  They are work, though, and need yearly maintenance...no matter what anyone says.  If kept up, they look brand new every year and IMO worth the effort.
Title: Re: La-Z Boy spas
Post by: Water Boy on May 05, 2009, 03:39:43 pm
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For you my friend, I'll accept the XXXX title......... this time.

Oh, I was just kidding around Doc, plus Spatech is the one that called you XXXX. ;)
Title: Re: La-Z Boy spas
Post by: Summitman on May 05, 2009, 03:41:11 pm
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Arctic wood cabinets are very nice looking.  Though they are not the only company offering wood, they are practically the only company showing them.  When you see a real wood cabinet, expecially redwood or cedar, they are spectacular.  They are work, though, and need yearly maintenance...no matter what anyone says.  If kept up, they look brand new every year and IMO worth the effort.


+1,

p.s. at our Arctic store here in Kansas we do the yearly maintenance on the cabinet no charge.
Title: Re: La-Z Boy spas
Post by: tony on May 05, 2009, 03:46:47 pm
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+1,

p.s. at our Arctic store here in Kansas we do the yearly maintenance on the cabinet no charge.

Now thats great service!
Title: Re: La-Z Boy spas
Post by: Spatech_tuo on May 05, 2009, 04:30:38 pm
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Oh, I was just kidding around Doc, plus Spatech is the one that called you XXXX. ;)

Have you ever heard the saying "It takes one to know one."?

Its not true in this case.
Title: Re: La-Z Boy spas
Post by: Dr. Spa™ Ret. on May 05, 2009, 04:45:04 pm
????? I know you, you know me....where's the untruth? (ok, so maybe I aint'a taking this one alone  ;D )

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Have you ever heard the saying "It takes one to know one."?

Its not true in this case.
Title: Re: La-Z Boy spas
Post by: MrTubs on May 06, 2009, 02:07:26 am
the another forum says: the new manufacturer of Lazyboyspas is Premium leisure.

www.premiumleisure.com

Title: Re: La-Z Boy spas
Post by: Vanguard on May 06, 2009, 08:21:47 pm
Really not much better.  I know they are making efforts to improve, but I'd still hold back for awhile and see if they make it.  They are the former Hydro Spa and were purchased out of bankruptcy.  
Title: Re: La-Z Boy spas
Post by: MrTubs on May 07, 2009, 02:39:20 am
Which one I should choose (i live in North!)

Master Spas
Artic Spas
Hot Spring

Title: Re: La-Z Boy spas
Post by: Vanguard on May 07, 2009, 09:41:11 am
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Which one I should choose (i live in North!)

Master Spas
Artic Spas
Hot Spring


Which is your favorite between Hot Spring and Arctic?  Master is another one of those you keep finding that you should stay away from.

You should wet test the Arctic and Hot Spring.  Then make your decision.  This is a very personal choice so we really can't tell you which one to buy.
Title: Re: La-Z Boy spas
Post by: Summitman on May 07, 2009, 10:34:27 am
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Which one I should choose (i live in North!)

Master Spas
Artic Spas
Hot Spring



Like Vanguard, I would personally choose between the Hot Springs and the Arctic.  Wet Test both and choose between the two.  Both are high quality brands, and in my opinion you cant go wrong with either one.
Title: Re: La-Z Boy spas
Post by: MrTubs on May 07, 2009, 01:23:48 pm
Ummm.. what about Insulations?
And there's only a 1,5kw heater in HS ??

In Artics Frontier is a 3 or 4 kw heater?

and what about the "frame" ? Juts thinking about the installation, and the place.

HS dealer said that concreate in ground would be almost a neccessary in here.. :P
Title: Re: La-Z Boy spas
Post by: Vanguard on May 07, 2009, 02:27:44 pm
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Ummm.. what about Insulations?
And there's only a 1,5kw heater in HS ??

In Artics Frontier is a 3 or 4 kw heater?

and what about the "frame" ? Juts thinking about the installation, and the place.

HS dealer said that concreate in ground would be almost a neccessary in here.. :P

While they both have different methods of insulation, they both are well-insulated.  No issue there.

Both have sturdy frames.  All the good brands have pretty much figured that out, so again, no issue.

Again, on the heater, both have figured out what size heater they need to keep their spa hot even in the coldest of weather.  One other thing that shouldn't be a difference when looking at the two brands.

As far as concrete, that is almost always preferable.  That gives you a much sturdier surface.  No chance of settling after you put a very heavy hot tub on the ground.  With both, you can simply level out the ground, put some sort of non-vegetative surface down and be fine.  I think with both you could simply set on the grass, but then you have issues of the grass growing up around the sides and having to trim it, etc.  Just put a good solid surface down and you'll be fine.