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Original => Hot Tub Forum => Topic started by: SDCPL858 on May 20, 2008, 03:59:56 pm
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Well, we did it. we went down last night and bought a Hot Springs Prodigy it will be delivered on 5/29 :). We ended up going back to the Catalina dealer one last time to make out final decision and heres what happen: They did not have a CL900 for us to wet test so we tested the closest thing they had to it. After the wet test we went back to talk to the sales guy again and started talking numbers. After a few mins. I asked him how much could he do such an such of spa for? He looked me in the eye and said "I think you need to figure out what spa you want and then we'll go from there"! My wife looked at me cause she knew I'd had it with ignorant sales people by now, I looked at the guy and I said you know what? and he says what? I said you just sold a Hot Springs Prodigy. He says we don't sell Hot Springs here, I said I know the place we're going to right now does. We stood up and started walking to the car. This guy follows us all the way to the car flapping his gums about this and that. We go to get in the car and he offers the same spa at an even lower price then we started at. I kindly gave him the one finger wave and drove off. :o Sorry this is so long but thought some of you might enjoy this lil story. So yeah Prodigy here we come we can't wait.
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Congrats on the new spa! You're going to love it.
Great Story. ;D ;D ;D
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Yea, I sure hope that guy doesn't work off of commission...LMAO. :-[
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Congratulations on your purchase. Post pictures when it is set up.
I am sorry to hear about the ignorant sales people. I am sure that is not the norm. We wet tested 10 spas and only 1 salesman bad mouthed the competition or was the pushy used car salesman type. All of the dealers were very friendly and made the wet testing a great experience. At least 3 encouraged us to go wet test others which was a confusing sales tactic. We even went back and tested 3 spas for a second time. One dealer called back to see how everything was going even though we did not purchase from him. Many of the spas dealers seemed to know each other (probably from home shows) and promoted the spa industry as a whole.
You definately got the saleman where it counts - in the old pocketbook.
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Congrats on the purchase. :D
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That is exactly what they were like used car salesman! ::)
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Nice story!! ;D Congrats on the spa.
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Congrats on the spa, but I guess I don't get it. What exactly did he do to make you so angry? Was there another part to this story?
Maybe he was just trying to figure out if you were serious about a particular tub, or just shopping by price. And maybe if I were there, I would feel differently, but I don't see why this would make you leave and buy another tub out of spite.
I know I have hit sales people (for different items) on days when they were either in a bad mood or just plain ignorant, but I wouldn't get mad enough to buy something else if that wasn't what I really wanted. ...He might have lost a sale, but you might have second thoughts later because your decision was made based on anger.
Sorry if I misunderstood. :-/ Enjoy your tub anyway...
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While I agree with Boni I think you will be happy with your new HS Prodigy. Congrats and let's hope you don't have anymore bad experiences with sales people. I was a politician for 12 years and I know Politicians, Lawyers, and used car salesmen get put into a bad grouping. Sometimes we deserve it. ;D
Scott ;)
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I had someone do me that way one time. My ninja training reflexively took over and the monkey ended up stealing their peach. I'm glad it turned out better for you.
Enjoy your new spa.
Terminator
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I had someone do me that way one time. My ninja training reflexively took over and the monkey ended up stealing their peach. I'm glad it turned out better for you.
Enjoy your new spa.
Terminator
You have one mean monkey.
http://bp2.blogger.com/_8S0Pg40v_zc/RtOWAx2-dZI/AAAAAAAADcA/29ITSVTJpZI/s1600-h/Monkey_steals_peach.jpg
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You have one mean monkey.
I must always be on guard against possible assassination attempts due to my participation on this forum and the many stalkers it has created. I just recently received this ominous photograph from two rough looking and possibly nefarious characters:
Term JOHN DOE
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I must always be on guard against possible assassination attempts due to my participation on this forum and the many stalkers it has created. I just recently received this ominous photograph from two rough looking and possibly nefarious characters:
(http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b206/EastTexasSpa/ohnowoohoo.jpg)
Term JOHN DOE
I would consider stalking, saving and editing pictures of people that you feel you are superior to.
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I must always be on guard against possible assassination attempts due to my participation on this forum and the many stalkers it has created. I just recently received this ominous photograph from two rough looking and possibly nefarious characters:
(http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b206/EastTexasSpa/ohnowoohoo.jpg)
Term JOHN DOE
Chris,
I lost a lot of respect for you today. I know it was something small that you did, and I am sure you will say it was in all fun, but it really rubbed me the wrong way and I feel you crossed the line today. You can photoshop pics of yourself all day long on here if you want, but dont doctor another one of my pictures like that again. I have customers that frequent this site all of the time, and I dont care to have one of them see that. I tried to call you to discuss this with you over the phone, but you didnt answer.
Ed
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Well, I'm sorry. I'll go back to happily ignoring ya'll if you'll extend me the same courtesy. Didn't mean to cause offense.
Chris O
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I have to agree with Boni. I am not in sales but I would think that if I were in a hot tub store selling spas to people who want that $10,000 spa for $49.95 with a $50 rebate, I too may want to know what someone is looking at and/or their price range.
You can't compare apples to apples as different brands sell for different amounts and different models have different features. If your comparing a HS Prodigy with a D1 Lotus Bay ... pricing got to be different.
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I have to agree with Boni. I am not in sales but I would think that if I were in a hot tub store selling spas to people who want that $10,000 spa for $49.95 with a $50 rebate, I too may want to know what someone is looking at and/or their price range.
You can't compare apples to apples as different brands sell for different amounts and different models have different features. If your comparing a HS Prodigy with a D1 Lotus Bay ... pricing got to be different.
Congrats on the spa purchase, happy tubbin to you. I can see bonni's point. When Im on the sales floor I try to focus on finding the model that we offer that best fits their needs and style without talking about price. Then when they find what they want we can talk price and see if its in their price range, if not find the spa that fits them best and IS in the price range they want. When you start talking price to soon it adds to much confusion I think to the consumer and blocks their ability to choose the best spa for them.
Just my two cents!
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I'm thinking there probably is a more clear explanation as to what was said to make him want to leave. I couldn't put my finger on it with the story so I'm guessing it just wasn't phrased right in the post.
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I had someone do me that way one time. My ninja training reflexively took over and the monkey ended up stealing their peach. I'm glad it turned out better for you.
Enjoy your new spa.
Terminator
Term owes me a new keyboard.
I spit my coffee out on that one. ;D
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Well, I'm sorry. I'll go back to happily ignoring ya'll if you'll extend me the same courtesy. Didn't mean to cause offense.
Chris O
Funny thing is, I dont need to ignore your posts cause 9 out of 10 times I enjoy them. Its when the spelling and grammer police come out or the holier than thou attitude shows is when I fire back. Sorry if my presence on this board cramps your style.
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Congrats on the spa, but I guess I don't get it. What exactly did he do to make you so angry? Was there another part to this story?
Maybe he was just trying to figure out if you were serious about a particular tub, or just shopping by price. And maybe if I were there, I would feel differently, but I don't see why this would make you leave and buy another tub out of spite.
I know I have hit sales people (for different items) on days when they were either in a bad mood or just plain ignorant, but I wouldn't get mad enough to buy something else if that wasn't what I really wanted. ...He might have lost a sale, but you might have second thoughts later because your decision was made based on anger.
Sorry if I misunderstood. :-/ Enjoy your tub anyway...
No reason to be sorry. I posted another post about this. The first time we talked to this store they lied to us to get us to come into their store, said they had what we were looking for we get there and the guys says oh I thought you said such and such, but while your here type of thing.
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Term:
I wasn't offended, but I did have to lay on the floor in a ball for a few minutes.
Ouch! .......I don't think I will ever view monkeys or peaches in quite the same way.
and SDCPL, congrats on the new Prodigy. Your gonna love it!
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I have to agree with Boni. I am not in sales but I would think that if I were in a hot tub store selling spas to people who want that $10,000 spa for $49.95 with a $50 rebate, I too may want to know what someone is looking at and/or their price range.
You can't compare apples to apples as different brands sell for different amounts and different models have different features. If your comparing a HS Prodigy with a D1 Lotus Bay ... pricing got to be different.
Price had nothing to do with it. The saleman being ignorant is what it's all about. I should be able to ask about any spa I want I'm the one spending the money!
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No reason to be sorry. I posted another post about this. The first time we talked to this store they lied to us to get us to come into their store, said they had what we were looking for we get there and the guys says oh I thought you said such and such, but while your here type of thing.
Bait and switch, Eh?? now it all makes sense!!
Happy tubbin, SDC, and enjoy. :)
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Since when?? :-? I'd be happy ignoring ya'll. I don't know anyone here from Adam, and don't think I'd care to know many of ya, at this point.
I'd like to start a new poll==except it doesn't apply to hot tubs:
Who on this forum, does any good for mankind?
Help the Homeless?
Donate Blood??
Organ donor on your License??
Feed the poor??
Impress me, folks.
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Well, since you asked....
In my free time, I wander the streets feeding the homeless, helping little old ladies across the streets and beating up drug dealers.
If I find a stray aninmal, I take it home and care for it. Currently I have 32 cats, 3 dogs, 2 spiders, an angry racoon and 1 blind Lima. Besides being old, an incontinent Lima has lost all its teeth, and I must chew its food for it. (Just as I do for my grandmother).
I do a lot of work with unwed mothers, mostly helping them get their start.
I tip extra big at the exotic dance clubs, as many of the strippers are single moms trying to work their way through community college.
Due to a medical condition, I cannot donate blood, however, but I do donate my sperm and only ask to be reimbursed for the cost of the DVDs.
I used to dress up as a clown and entertain children at the local hospital, but due to a misunderstanding involving little Timmy and a balloon animal I was making, the courts have ordered I do not enter the children’s ward anymore. (I also must stay 500 feet away from schools and poultry farms, but that is another story).
I have started several religions and forgiven untold thousands of their transgressions against their own inadequacies.
In an effort to better others, I point out other's faults so that they may become better people.
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Ok now I understand, sorry I didn't see the beginning of this story. So now I will speak from a different perspective...sometimes things happen for a reason. ;)Best of luck with your new tub
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After reading Mike's post I feel so inadequate. I need to do so much more for society.
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Scott
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Oh man, here I go again..I am confused...AGAIN :o
This time by Christi
Christi, you would be happy ignoring us, don't know us from Adam and don't think you would want to know many of us anyway..yet you ask what we do for mankind?
I will tell you from being here for a couple of years, there are many totally awsome people who post here. They take their time to help hot tub owners make decisions, manage water, do repairs. Yet that is only a part of it. Have a question about your tile floor?...your swimming pool?, your dog or cat, even your kid? There is a hot tub owner on here who is more than willing to share great information.
In the mix with all of this are posters who may react to certain things causing the tone of the forum to change. In spite of the many happy faces :)that we can use, sometimes it is difficult to understand what someone is really saying. So relatively innocent things seem more than they are. You also have to realize dealers and sales people on here are passionate about what they do for a living. Things get fired up when they talk about their products. Not a big deal, it all heals over.
This is a great forum, there are many many nice, really great people on here...somedays it doesn't seem that way, but I bet if you had the opportunity to meet many of these folks in person, you would in fact be very honored to know them. ;)
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Boni--to clear the air, and confusion, I was reading posts and getting caught up on things, when I kept reading all these derogatory statements (which, gotta admit, happen alot) and, as I said in the "something different" thread, didn't know and STILL don't know the whole story.
SO, though you, dax, in canada, and I all ribbed and congratulated each other in "flyered up", it was not taken out of context.
Maybe if I knew the whole story, I could have formulated a different/better opinion. I totally appreciate the passion felt about selling and owning spas.
So, I will take a lick off my Prozac lick, chill out, shop at the dollar store, and...
[glow]apologize to Mr Ogden since he obviously is just fighting fire with fire[/glow].
PUBLIC ANNOUNCEMENT:
Please, everyone, strike the "wouldn't care to know ya" statement. Uncalled for and I spoke out of pure anger.
BB--you are a great moderator and a fair person, so I apologize to you for getting my claws and fur in a huff.
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Price had nothing to do with it. The saleman being ignorant is what it's all about. I should be able to ask about any spa I want I'm the one spending the money!
I trying to point out that ignorance can be on both sides of the fence. I didn't read the whole story but certainly lieing to get a sale is definately a sleazy way of doing things.
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Not looking to impress you but ....
I have vowed to donate 10% of money that I actively trade and make money to donate to charites; unfortunately I haven't made much but I have donated some.
In the past I have donated money, clothing and food for people less fortunate than myself. Don't donate to big name charities but to grass roots types to get the most out of my donation.
I have donated blood but don't because the hospital I work at only gives it to their patients and not to a blood supply.
I won't have an organ donation on my license because I don't trust healthcare professionals to do the right thing ... unfortunately money talks.
I rescued a dog vs buying a purebred to save a life. Will only do that for now on ... I don't need a purebred because of a status thing.
I coached kids sports for a total of about 6 years.
Thanks for making me look back on the good I've done.
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Well, since you asked....
I tip extra big at the exotic dance clubs, as many of the strippers are single moms trying to work their way through community college.
I tried taking a stripper home as a charitable act. I did not realize that a bouncer can throw a person more than 15 feet through the air.
I donated platelets for years until our hospital system screwed it up and assigned it to a government agency. I never knew the recipients but I did receive a letter from anonymous kids thanking me for saving their mom. Still feel good about that and it was over 10 years ago. One lady wanted my platelets especially as she was getting better and planned to go to Hawaii. The other choices were a policeman and a monsigor from what I was told. I think she just wanted mre to up her blood alcohol level before she left.
Remember live by my motto Dont sweat the petty things, pet the sweaty things
PS for heavens sake keep your monkeys in their closets
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I won't have an organ donation on my license because I don't trust healthcare professionals to do the right thing ... unfortunately money talks.
Vinny,
I have new found respect for you after that post but I have to comment on this one because I've been a donor since the day I got my license. I won't argue with your lack of faith in the healthcare system but here basically are the four alternatives:
1) You donate and they provide your organs to the neediest/next in line person. Great thing!!! I wish this happened 100% of the time but we know why you're skeptical.
2) You donate and someone skips protocol and they provide it to some rich guy who needs an organ but shouldn't be next in line,
3) You don't donate and they take it anyway and it either goes the way of #1 or #2 (this is probably very rare and we'll assume #2 gets it since they took it without consent),
4) You don't donate and you get buried with all your good parts in tact.
#1 is great,
#2 and #3 provides needed organs but is wrong,
#4 does no good.
As much as I'd be pissed if #2 or #3 happened I can't go the route of #4. If I was to skip it because of the potential for #2 and #3 then there's less chance of helping the right people and what the heck, I don't think I'll need my organs anymore when my time comes.
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Not looking to impress you but ....
I have vowed to donate 10% of money that I actively trade and make money to donate to charites; unfortunately I haven't made much but I have donated some.
In the past I have donated money, clothing and food for people less fortunate than myself. Don't donate to big name charities but to grass roots types to get the most out of my donation.
I have donated blood but don't because the hospital I work at only gives it to their patients and not to a blood supply.
I won't have an organ donation on my license because I don't trust healthcare professionals to do the right thing ... unfortunately money talks.
I rescued a dog vs buying a purebred to save a life. Will only do that for now on ... I don't need a purebred because of a status thing.
I coached kids sports for a total of about 6 years.
Thanks for making me look back on the good I've done.
You rock, Vinny!!! And, thanks for being HONEST.
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Vinny,
I have new found respect for you after that post but I have to comment on this one because I've been a donor since the day I got my license. I won't argue with your lack of faith in the healthcare system but here basically are the four alternatives:
1) You donate and they provide your organs to the neediest/next in line person. Great thing!!! I wish this happened 100% of the time but we know why you're skeptical.
2) You donate and someone skips protocol and they provide it to some rich guy who needs an organ but shouldn't be next in line,
3) You don't donate and they take it anyway and it either goes the way of #1 or #2 (this is probably very rare and we'll assume #2 gets it since they took it without consent),
4) You don't donate and you get buried with all your good parts in tact.
#1 is great,
#2 and #3 provides needed organs but is wrong,
#4 does no good.
As much as I'd be pissed if #2 or #3 happened I can't go the route of #4. If I was to skip it because of the potential for #2 and #3 then there's less chance of helping the right people and what the heck, I don't think I'll need my organs anymore when my time comes.
Thank You, Spatech, you are unreal!!
I am an organ donor, and since I am no longer anemic after having certain parts removed, donate blood.
I have the utmost respect for both of you.
My other biggest dream==philanthropy--I would love to just buy houses for homeless and run a shelter. I give to food drives, clothing drives, and private charities. Not tooting my own horn, I could do more. I do alot at work and bring in alot of stuff for patients.
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Glad to see everyone jacking my thread. Oh well it's all good. 8-)
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Here we go- Lets get this back on Track:
SDCPL858- Congrats on your new spa. Your gonna love it. Its too bad that the other dealer was like that to you, but I dont blame you for walking right out like you did. If it doesnt feel right at the time of the sale or when prcing is being talked about, then what will it be like later down the road. Sounds like you made the wise choice! Enjoy!
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Yes congratulations. Forgot to mention it during the derailment. Ok everybody back on track and back to work.
Thanks to everyone for the interesting day of comments and ensuring that I did not get much work done today as I weaved back and forth through the threads.
Post the pictures when it is set up
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Thank you everyone for your input and we will post some pics when she's up an runnin.
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Vinny,
I have new found respect for you after that post but I have to comment on this one because I've been a donor since the day I got my license. I won't argue with your lack of faith in the healthcare system but here basically are the four alternatives:
1) You donate and they provide your organs to the neediest/next in line person. Great thing!!! I wish this happened 100% of the time but we know why you're skeptical.
2) You donate and someone skips protocol and they provide it to some rich guy who needs an organ but shouldn't be next in line,
3) You don't donate and they take it anyway and it either goes the way of #1 or #2 (this is probably very rare and we'll assume #2 gets it since they took it without consent),
4) You don't donate and you get buried with all your good parts in tact.
#1 is great,
#2 and #3 provides needed organs but is wrong,
#4 does no good.
As much as I'd be pissed if #2 or #3 happened I can't go the route of #4. If I was to skip it because of the potential for #2 and #3 then there's less chance of helping the right people and what the heck, I don't think I'll need my organs anymore when my time comes.
I hear what you're saying, agree somewhat with what you're saying and I go back and forth with it but I kind of went the way I feel after Mickey Mantel got a liver and died shortly of cancer... if that was you or I we would not even have gotten a chance.
I've said this before that I feel fortunate to be able to afford the stuff I have. I feel fortunate to be able to have a computer, talk on a hot tub forum and not worry too much of where my next meal is coming from ... all this is petty compared to having to wonder where we were all going to sleep tonight ... something that 1,000s of people do worry about!
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I hear what you're saying, agree somewhat with what you're saying and I go back and forth with it but I kind of went the way I feel after Mickey Mantel got a liver and died shortly of cancer... if that was you or I we would not even have gotten a chance.
I think 95% of the time it goes to the right place. If thats the case (or whatever the %s are) I'd still prefer to help 95 of the right people and 5 Mickey Mantles as opposed to taking my organs with me to the incinerator.
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I donated an organ to a homeless shelter, and bled when the lid came down on my hand. We were near the dinning room, so there were plates - and I'm sure some little platelets had to be nearby as well. And we recycled the moving blankets.
Does that count?
(http://www.keyboardworld.net/images/lowrey_organ.jpg)
Oh- and welcome to Spatopia. May you soak long and prosper.
8-)
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WOW... looks like im late to the party..... lol
I'm really glad that you made your decision on getting your new spa! Congratulations and enjoy your new Prodigy!! :)
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oh and i almost forgot.....
I am Batman (http://www.emofaces.com/en/smilies/b/batman-smile.gif)