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Original => Hot Tub Forum => Topic started by: Lisa on April 02, 2008, 06:32:33 pm

Title: Jacuzzi and Islander Spas
Post by: Lisa on April 02, 2008, 06:32:33 pm
Hello...

I'm interested in buying a hot tub and so far looked at Jacuzzi and Islander Spas.  Can't really find that much info on the Islander hot tubs.  Wondering if that is a bad sign...Any thoughts would be appreciated.

Lisa
Title: Re: Jacuzzi and Islander Spas
Post by: Jacuzzi Jim on April 02, 2008, 07:44:21 pm
 Cant help you with the Islander, never heard of it least in my area anyway. I do know quite a bit about the Jacuzzi!!  Their are a few other manufacturers you may look at as well.  

 Sundance, Hot Springs, Marquis, Arctic just to name a few!
Title: Re: Jacuzzi and Islander Spas
Post by: tinybubbles on April 03, 2008, 10:29:28 am
Are you referring to the Island series spas made by Artesian?
Title: Re: Jacuzzi and Islander Spas
Post by: Steve on April 03, 2008, 11:08:39 am
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Are you referring to the Island series spas made by Artesian?

I'm guessing it's Artesian...

http://www.oasispoolsplus.com/seop/dept.asp?s%5Fid=0&dept%5Fid=55086&WT%2Esvl=deptnav2
Title: Re: Jacuzzi and Islander Spas
Post by: Spatech_tuo on April 03, 2008, 11:21:14 am
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I'm guessing it's Artesian...


... probably true but it also could be Islander spas who are a regional spa maker.

http://www.islanderspas.net/company.htm
Title: Re: Jacuzzi and Islander Spas
Post by: Steve on April 03, 2008, 11:30:33 am
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... probably true but it also could be Islander spas who are a regional spa maker.

http://www.islanderspas.net/company.htm

Hmm, well look at that! That might be it! Never heard of 'em.
Title: Re: Jacuzzi and Islander Spas
Post by: Spatech_tuo on April 03, 2008, 12:29:38 pm
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Hmm, well look at that! That might be it! Never heard of 'em.

I saw them at the show a few years back. I only remember them because they had these platic tables that screwed into the center of the footwell so if you want to have a card game, play monopoly or simply have dinner in the spa its easier to do.
Title: Re: Jacuzzi and Islander Spas
Post by: clover on April 03, 2008, 03:06:13 pm
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Hello...

I'm interested in buying a hot tub and so far looked at Jacuzzi and Islander Spas.  Can't really find that much info on the Islander hot tubs.  Wondering if that is a bad sign...Any thoughts would be appreciated.

Lisa
Artesian Spas http://artesianspas.com/makes the Island Series along with the Platinum Series and Gold Series Spas.  It's like Hot Springs and the different lines they have.  It's like saying I have never heard of Tiger River, Solana, or Hot Spot, all of which are made by Watkins.  Artesian Spas get pretty good marks here  at WTBHT, and it is a little surprising to see some of these subtle comments that make them look like a "no name manufacturer".

Platinum Series is their top of the line and the Island Series allows you to add or subtract features from your Hot Tub.  First pick a model like the Grand Bahama, now do you want that with 32 jets, 44 jets, 52 or 62 jets.  Add to that the additional options that you want like ozone, circ pump, waterfalls, fancy lighting, 3 year warranty or 5 year warranty, etc.  This allows you for add or delete the features YOU want, and of course that influences the price to be more or less.
Title: Re: Jacuzzi and Islander Spas
Post by: Vanguard on April 03, 2008, 03:24:11 pm
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Artesian Spas http://artesianspas.com/makes the Island Series along with the Platinum Series and Gold Series Spas.  It's like Hot Springs and the different lines they have.  It's like saying I have never heard of Tiger River, Solana, or Hot Spot, all of which are made by Watkins.  Artesian Spas get pretty good marks here  at WTBHT, and it is a little surprising to see some of these subtle comments that make them look like a "no name manufacturer".

Platinum Series is their top of the line and the Island Series allows you to add or subtract features from your Hot Tub.  First pick a model like the Grand Bahama, now do you want that with 32 jets, 44 jets, 52 or 62 jets.  Add to that the additional options that you want like ozone, circ pump, waterfalls, fancy lighting, 3 year warranty or 5 year warranty, etc.  This allows you for add or delete the features YOU want, and of course that influences the price to be more or less.

That is the Island Series.  This is Islander Spas.  There is a difference.  Islander Spas is out of California.
Title: Re: Jacuzzi and Islander Spas
Post by: Jacuzzi Jim on April 03, 2008, 03:30:04 pm
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Artesian Spas http://artesianspas.com/makes the Island Series along with the Platinum Series and Gold Series Spas.  It's like Hot Springs and the different lines they have.  It's like saying I have never heard of Tiger River, Solana, or Hot Spot, all of which are made by Watkins.  Artesian Spas get pretty good marks here  at WTBHT, and it is a little surprising to see some of these subtle comments that make them look like a "no name manufacturer".



  I didn't think she was talking about the Artesian spa line is why I made my comment, and probably same with the others as well.

 We use to sell Artesians so I am well aware of the ISLAND series from them, not the ISLANDER series she spoke of.  Just to clear a few things up.

 The Artesian Island series is a nice spa line!  But only comes with a 3 year warranty for the price of it when fully loaded should be 5.
Title: Re: Jacuzzi and Islander Spas
Post by: Steve on April 03, 2008, 03:35:08 pm
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 Artesian Spas get pretty good marks here  at WTBHT, and it is a little surprising to see some of these subtle comments that make them look like a "no name manufacturer".

My apologies..... I'll try to be more considerate of your feelings in future when there’s a brand I’ve never heard of before...  ::)  ;D

The question was NOT about Artesian directly but rather about Islander Spas which could be one of a couple possibilities by the looks of it.
Title: Re: Jacuzzi and Islander Spas
Post by: clover on April 03, 2008, 03:48:55 pm
I stand corrected.  Islander Spas http://www.islanderspas.net/company.htm IS a regional manufacturer in CA.  My bad.  Just goes to show you how our industry creates confusion for all, especially when one assumes......
Title: Re: Jacuzzi and Islander Spas
Post by: In_Too_Long on April 03, 2008, 06:03:55 pm
Islander spas is really a manufacturer I would be weary about. A lot of midwest presence. The person(s) who represent them in the midwest used to do Sequoia spas which are no longer around and they look identical to Islander. Funny Sequoia dissappeared right when Islander showed up.
Before the Seqouia/Islander switch over, there was similar incident with Seqouia/Cal-Ex spas, and before that Funs spas and the history goes on. The names change and the spas look the same, and then nobody warrants the previous brand name. This would be a major red flag to me.
Title: Re: Jacuzzi and Islander Spas
Post by: Erin on April 04, 2008, 09:46:01 am
The company that I work for sells Islander Spas and they are a very good hot tub. The main reason why you don't hear a lot about them is due to the fact that they put more of their advertising money towards their engineering.

We were a dealer for Sequoia as well and the owner of Islander bought the molds from Sequoia, they are not the same owner.

We have been selling Islander Spas for the past 6+ years and have had very little problems with them. They focus a lot of therapy and not so much the "bling". The company is extremely easy to get along with and they have a very good support staff.

If you would like more information feel free to pm me.
Title: Re: Jacuzzi and Islander Spas
Post by: BauerN on April 04, 2008, 03:08:33 pm
The "tiles" look nice.  Interesting therapy.

How long have they used the "rollassage" jets?
Title: Re: Jacuzzi and Islander Spas
Post by: Lisa on April 04, 2008, 03:37:01 pm
Thanks for all your help...I have a feeling choosing a hot tub is going to be a lengthy process!  
Title: Re: Jacuzzi and Islander Spas
Post by: IL Parrothead on April 05, 2008, 01:33:08 am
It took me close to 6 months, Lisa, but it can be a fun process.  Wet test them, and enjoy!   8-)
Title: Re: Jacuzzi and Islander Spas
Post by: Vanguard on April 05, 2008, 01:58:55 am
I'm curious, from the information on their website, they sound like they have different models.  However, they only show one spa.  How many models do they make?

I also find it interesting they claim to be the first to have acrylic tile in their spas.  I think Hot Spring might have something to say about that.  I'm not even sure if Hot Spring was the first, but since Island was started in 1995 (according to their website) they certainly were not the first.  Geez, tile is really out of style now anyway.  Hot Spring didn't give up on tile easily.
Title: Re: Jacuzzi and Islander Spas
Post by: Jacuzzi Jim on April 05, 2008, 01:18:41 pm
 After looking at the website I remember seeing those spas at the Aqua show in Vegas, not many people were looking at them, while they may be a nice spa, I thought they were the shall we say ugliest looking spa I had ever seen.

 Sorry but thats just my opinion.  :-X
Title: Re: Jacuzzi and Islander Spas
Post by: Erin on April 05, 2008, 04:25:10 pm
Don't be sorry Jim. The pictures on their website don't do them justice. There are a lot of features that they offer (same as pretty much all the other manufacturers in the business), and they also offer different color shells and cabinets. And you can also order them without tile, so if its not something you like don't get it.

They are in the process of re-vamping their whole line and haven't updated their website yet. They are the only company left in the industry besides D1 that still have the one piece white shell. And we haven't had any problems with it yet, and we've been with them since 1995 (and also when it was Sequoia).

The rollasage came out about 3 years ago, and is actually pretty nice. It has the 3 balls in it that rotate up against your back.

Just make sure you do your research and you should be fine. Also wet test the models the dealer should be more than happy to fill a couple up for you.

Title: Re: Jacuzzi and Islander Spas
Post by: Erin on April 05, 2008, 04:30:22 pm
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Islander spas is really a manufacturer I would be weary about. A lot of midwest presence. The person(s) who represent them in the midwest used to do Sequoia spas which are no longer around and they look identical to Islander. Funny Sequoia dissappeared right when Islander showed up.  
Before the Seqouia/Islander switch over, there was similar incident with Seqouia/Cal-Ex spas, and before that Funs spas and the history goes on. The names change and the spas look the same, and then nobody warrants the previous brand name. This would be a major red flag to me."
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I'm curious as to the midwest representative for Islander spas that you know?
Title: Re: Jacuzzi and Islander Spas
Post by: BauerN on April 05, 2008, 04:47:46 pm
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They are the only company left in the industry besides D1 that still have the one piece white shell.

Is that the Endurol material, or comparable to?

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The rollasage came out about 3 years ago, and is actually pretty nice. It has the 3 balls in it that rotate up against your back.

We use a "shiatsu"-style jet in one of our brands also.  (It's the one with the two large "fingers" - driven by water).  Very unique jet, great for deep tissue.  
Islander is the only other manufacturer I've seen who uses this.
Shoppers - that jet is worth trying - I have yet to find anything close to the feeling it provides.
That's the one I meant to ask about, I think I mixed them up.
Edit:  I think it's the Aquassage.
Title: Re: Jacuzzi and Islander Spas
Post by: Erin on April 05, 2008, 04:59:02 pm
It is very comparable to the Endurol.
And Islander has the Aquassage as well, but the Rollasage is something completely different. It sits below the water and is a round pad that has 3 rotating balls behind it. This is another jet that is definately worth trying!
Title: Re: Jacuzzi and Islander Spas
Post by: hottubdan on April 05, 2008, 04:59:44 pm
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They are the only company left in the industry besides D1 that still have the one piece white shell.

Um, there is a little company called Hot Spring that uses the "one piece white shell." ;)
Title: Re: Jacuzzi and Islander Spas
Post by: Jacuzzi Jim on April 05, 2008, 05:53:17 pm
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Don't be sorry Jim. The pictures on their website don't do them justice. There are a lot of features that they offer (same as pretty much all the other manufacturers in the business), and they also offer different color shells and cabinets. And you can also order them without tile, so if its not something you like don't get it.



Just make sure you do your research and you should be fine. Also wet test the models the dealer should be more than happy to fill a couple up for you.


   When I am ready to buy, I might just do that!    ;D
Title: Re: Jacuzzi and Islander Spas
Post by: BauerN on April 05, 2008, 06:09:29 pm
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It is very comparable to the Endurol.
And Islander has the Aquassage as well, but the Rollasage is something completely different. It sits below the water and is a round pad that has 3 rotating balls behind it. This is another jet that is definately worth trying!

After using the Aquassage, I'll bet the Rollassage feels pretty darn good too.  Does it feel as strong?  Might have to look for a wet test if I get to CA this winter.

JJ - after that pic you gave Term (so he says) - you better be buyin' from me!!!!
 >:(

Title: Re: Jacuzzi and Islander Spas
Post by: Erin on April 07, 2008, 09:30:22 am
As I recall Hot Springs no longer uses the "one piece white shell". PLease correct me if I'm wrong.
Title: Re: Jacuzzi and Islander Spas
Post by: hottubdan on April 07, 2008, 10:54:17 am
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As I recall Hot Springs no longer uses the "one piece white shell". PLease correct me if I'm wrong.

Well, it is down to two models, but we still sell them.

http://www.hotspring.com/Spa_Showroom_Hot_Tub/classic_series_spas.html
Title: Re: Jacuzzi and Islander Spas
Post by: wewannahottub on April 07, 2008, 01:11:35 pm
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Thanks for all your help...I have a feeling choosing a hot tub is going to be a lengthy process!  


Ohh, yeahhh!!  ;)  The more you look, the more you read this forum, the more overwhelmed you'll be.

The biggest key is to look around, don't be pressured, educate yourself as much as you can about the spas you are looking at, and know what price---in your head---that you are set on spending-and don't let the dealer know that. And, drumroll please.....WET TEST!!!!

Good luck and Have Fun ;D ;)!

Chrisi
Title: Re: Jacuzzi and Islander Spas
Post by: The_real_Clown_Shoes on April 07, 2008, 01:36:18 pm
Islander sells at home shows around our area.  They're not too much to write home about as far as aesthetics are concerned (they look sort of like a souped-up Solana), but they use a lot of Sequoia molds.  We have a ton of Sequoia spas in our area- they look very soundly built, but we're seeing more and more of them cut in half and sent to the dump.
Title: Re: Jacuzzi and Islander Spas
Post by: Merlin on April 07, 2008, 02:09:36 pm
We actually just did 4 service calls on bad heaters from Islander 6 months after they had a show out here.

1 of those four traded in for a Bengal.

The customers i spoke with that had purchased the islander seemed disappointed
Title: Re: Jacuzzi and Islander Spas
Post by: BauerN on April 07, 2008, 02:54:21 pm
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We actually just did 4 service calls on bad heaters from Islander 6 months after they had a show out here.

Sounds more like a bad batch of heaters to me...

Keep in mind this can happen with any component, on any brand.  

Were the customers taken care of under warranty?