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Original => Hot Tub Forum => Topic started by: Mendocino101 on February 16, 2008, 02:47:12 pm

Title: Just an observation
Post by: Mendocino101 on February 16, 2008, 02:47:12 pm
I noticed here that a couple of folks have put their tubs up sale (just two I think). But it did make me wonder. Rarely do I ever hear from the customer who does not enjoy their tub each and every time they use it, how it makes them feel better, how they sleep better, how much they enjoy spending time with their spouse or children or friends. But for some reason some people at times seem to get to busy to use it on a regular basis but once they get back in they comment on what had been thinking that was keeping them away. I wonder do we as people just get bored by routine even if it is something we really enjoy?
Title: Re: Just an observation
Post by: Vinny on February 16, 2008, 03:12:24 pm
Good philosophical question.

I think the answer is maybe!  ::)

We sometimes do get into a routine and even if it is something we like or love we forget how great it is. How many mornings do we look at the sunrise and say "WOW how beautiful" or even evenings with sunsets. Do we appreciate things that we drive by every day.

Even something such as tying our shoes can be made different by tying them in opposite sequence. We do get into a rut.

But I think with something like a spa - we like or love it but life gets into the way to enjoy it. I will speak from experience that I don't use the spa the way I thought I would. My family doesn't enjoy the spa at all so I soak alone 99% of the time when I do soak, which is no fun for me. I can't sell it as I have it built into my deck and I don't want to sell it because the times I do use it, it's great. It did not become the great oasis that I was envisioning it to be, which may be one of the reasons to get rid of a spa for a lot of people.

I guess for those of us where it didn't become routine - we appreciate using it. I would imagine anything routine isn't apprecaiated as much.
Title: Re: Just an observation
Post by: Jacuzzi Jim on February 16, 2008, 03:30:03 pm
  I have more people use our trade in trade up program, for existing customers,  some people are just moving to another house, or they leave all together out of the area?

 We also do a referral deal, you send us 5 people that buy a spa we will give your your choice of any Jacuzzi you want for free.  Only done one so far but we sold 5 out of the deal.
Title: Re: Just an observation
Post by: tony on February 16, 2008, 05:26:47 pm
I make it a point to start my day with a soak, as long as the weather allows.  Its an easy routine to keep.  If I were to rely on evening soaks, my spa would not get nearly as much use because life does get in the way at night.  The rest of the family uses the spa afternoons or evenings but not nearly as often as I do.
Title: Re: Just an observation
Post by: Bonibelle on February 16, 2008, 06:55:38 pm
It's strange, I was thinking the same thing. I think there have actually been more than two trying to sell tubs, remember the guy who gave his Marquis tub away for $500.00 because he was so angry that it had depreciated so much? And the other couple that we all tried to talk into giving the tub one more chance...Campsalot, I believe.

I know how excited I was after I ordered my tub...it was going to get so much use..all the time. But even though I love my tub and I really believe it is the reason that I am not suffering with Lyme symptoms anymore, I don't use it nearly as much as I did when we first got it. My husband has changed jobs and travels, so I don't go out at night (my favorite time), because I won't go by myself. He is not here to have coffee and a morning soak, so I just get right into my routine and skip that soak too. so I think sometimes it is about how and why you soak. If your routine included time with your spouse, and he or she isn't around, then part of the  enjoyment of the spa is gone. :(

I also think that in a better economy, people bought luxury items like hot tubs almost like status symbols...Now when electricity costs are crazy and other utility costs are skyrocketing, the extra cash that was spent heating the hot tub and buying chemicals isn't really extra cash anymore. :-/  Maybe people are just analyzing what they really need and what they can do without.

I finally bought a new freezer and I changed virtually every light bulb in my house to florescents...I am running my tub in economy mode and doing everything I can to keep my electric costs down, When I changed my bromine cartridge in my tub this morning, I was thinking, I have probably spent more time checking my water than I have soaking lately :-/  It's really kind of sad :'(  
Title: Re: Just an observation
Post by: D.P. Roberts on February 16, 2008, 07:00:37 pm
And how many times do people post a hundred million questions, and start one billion flame wars about different brands, as they search for their new tub. Then, after buying the tub of their dreams, they promise to be back to help other new shoppers in their research. And they're never heard from again.

How many of those people are still using their tubs? If they are, perhaps a twinge of thought would occur to them to post their more experienced opinions.
Title: Re: Just an observation
Post by: Zep on February 16, 2008, 07:31:04 pm
i think for some they tire of the upkeep

the electric bills

the chemicals and water issues.....the foam and/or cloudy water

the draining & filling

the weather

not as many friends/parties coming over for a soak as envisioned before purchase

the novelty wears off

for some it is just easier to jump in the bathtub for a soak



Title: Re: Just an observation
Post by: Mendocino101 on February 16, 2008, 08:21:04 pm
I know we have customers whose daily soak is just a normal part of there day and would not go without it. I find that if I get busy and go a week without soaking when I get back in I think to myself why did I get away.....
Title: Re: Just an observation
Post by: Chad on February 16, 2008, 09:18:25 pm
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I make it a point to start my day with a soak, as long as the weather allows.  Its an easy routine to keep.

That's exactly what I do.  

I find that on the days I'm unable to soak, I'm very irritable.
Title: Re: Just an observation
Post by: wmccall on February 16, 2008, 09:55:23 pm
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i think for some they tire of the upkeep

the electric bills

the chemicals and water issues.....the foam and/or cloudy water

the draining & filling

the weather

not as many friends/parties coming over for a soak as envisioned before purchase

the novelty wears off

for some it is just easier to jump in the bathtub for a soak



 

There are some questions that have no answer than is 100% for everybody.  However, i think your answer may be it for more people than any other.  The things somepeople think of as an extravagance, others consider a neccesity, like the hot tub is for me.
Title: Re: Just an observation
Post by: Chad on February 17, 2008, 10:09:14 am
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i think for some they tire of the upkeep

the electric bills

the chemicals and water issues.....the foam and/or cloudy water

the draining & filling

the weather

not as many friends/parties coming over for a soak as envisioned before purchase

the novelty wears off

for some it is just easier to jump in the bathtub for a soak
This is a prime example of an impulse shopper. If one would just have thought out this purchase and done a little research, they wouldn't be in these types of situations.
Heck, it took me a week and a half to pull the trigger on a new cordless drill/driver.  I got to the point where I was having dreams about drills b/c I was doing so much research. In case your wondering, I got the Makita 18v Lithium Ion.
Title: Re: Just an observation
Post by: Bonibelle on February 17, 2008, 12:47:58 pm
So Chad, everyone that  is NOT an impuse shopper has a consistant, unchanging life style?  It took me two years of research and discussion to finally get my tub. Since I have my water management under control, the tub isn't really a maintence issue, but my electric bill is. The point of this whole conversation being that for different reasons people do decide to get rid of their tubs. I will never get rid of mine, but situations change which sometimes results in people reevaluating why they even have a tub.

This morning I took a relaxing soak to bring my blood pressure down..my son had an accident last night and it is really upsetting to see your kid show up with his car on a flat bed tow truck! So for the couple of weeks of minimal use...this morning was well worth the electric, the chems...whatever I have paid to have that big hot water heater on my deck waiting... ;)
Title: Re: Just an observation
Post by: IL Parrothead on February 17, 2008, 01:41:13 pm
Chad, that's too funny!  I'm exactly the same way!  (By the way, I went Ryobi 18v Lithium +1.)
I've been in the market for a spa since this past October and I haven't pulled the trigger yet.
But I'm getting close!   ::)
Title: Re: Just an observation
Post by: rick_in_cleveland on February 17, 2008, 02:58:43 pm
5 weeks ago I had surgery for a torn tendon in my foot and have been in a cast.  I really thought I would miss soaking but actually I don't.   I am not ready to sell my Reward yet but  not really looking forward to soaking  in it in another couple of weeks.  When I get in again maybe it will be back to 3-4 times a week or maybe once in a while....we will see
Title: Re: Just an observation
Post by: Zep on February 17, 2008, 03:38:14 pm
"I got the Makita 18v Lithium Ion"

Chas....what did ya pay?

http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?sofocus=bs&sbrftog=1&dfsp=1&from=R10&_trksid=m37&satitle=Makita+18v+Lithium+Ion+cordless+drill+driver&sacat=-1%26catref%3DC6&sargn=-1%26saslc%3D2&sadis=200&fpos=ZIP%2FPostal&sabfmts=1&saobfmts=insif&ftrt=1&ftrv=1&saprclo=&saprchi=&fsop=1%26fsoo%3D1&fgtp=
Title: Re: Just an observation
Post by: Chad on February 17, 2008, 09:42:06 pm
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So Chad, everyone that  is NOT an impuse shopper has a consistant, unchanging life style?  It took me two years of research and discussion to finally get my tub. Since I have my water management under control, the tub isn't really a maintence issue, but my electric bill is. The point of this whole conversation being that for different reasons people do decide to get rid of their tubs. I will never get rid of mine, but situations change which sometimes results in people reevaluating why they even have a tub.

This morning I took a relaxing soak to bring my blood pressure down..my son had an accident last night and it is really upsetting to see your kid show up with his car on a flat bed tow truck! So for the couple of weeks of minimal use...this morning was well worth the electric, the chems...whatever I have paid to have that big hot water heater on my deck waiting... ;)
Boni, all I was trying to say is that far too many people purchase things without thoroughly thinking ahead. I'm sorry if my post came off a bit narrow minded.  :)

How's the grouting project coming along?
Title: Re: Just an observation
Post by: Chad on February 17, 2008, 09:51:31 pm
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"I got the Makita 18v Lithium Ion"

Chas....what did ya pay?

http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?sofocus=bs&sbrftog=1&dfsp=1&from=R10&_trksid=m37&satitle=Makita+18v+Lithium+Ion+cordless+drill+driver&sacat=-1%26catref%3DC6&sargn=-1%26saslc%3D2&sadis=200&fpos=ZIP%2FPostal&sabfmts=1&saobfmts=insif&ftrt=1&ftrv=1&saprclo=&saprchi=&fsop=1%26fsoo%3D1&fgtp=
I think you meant me and not Chas. I paid $185 + tax. This included the case, (2) 1.5ah Lithium Ion batteries, the charger, and 1 year manufacturer warranty.  

The person selling that particular, "new" drill/driver for $65 + $13 S&H is selling it w/o the Lithium Ion batteries, the charger, the case, and I doubt the manufacturer will honor their warranty. The batteries alone are over $100. Heck the 3.5ah batteries are $90 a piece.

Title: Re: Just an observation
Post by: Zep on February 18, 2008, 09:31:56 am
Chad....looks like you got a good price.

I just always am trying to get myself in the habit of always,
always, always, "checking e-bay first". It doesn't always
work, but when it does, Jezzzzz the savings can be N-credible!

Our computer guy at work just bought 2 switches for our server
for $2600 and they are both still under warranty and the same
switch retails for $2100 each plus tax.
Title: Re: Just an observation
Post by: tinybubbles on February 18, 2008, 02:59:12 pm
I would think it has to do with why a person soaks and what they get out of it.  With arthritis as an issue, there is nothing like soaking in the spa.  If there is a night we have to skip it because of rain or other obligations, I am so stiff.  So it's definatly worth the effort to use it on a daily basis.  Like Boni, I would be afraid to use it alone, so I'm glad that's not an issue.  I think soaking in the spa after a long day of work is just like some poeple going home to a martini.  It really helps you unwind after the daily grind.  It does take a big chunk out of our night.  With both of us working all day and fairly long commutes, it's an effort to fit it in, along with dinner, dishes, laundry, etc. that we all have to do.  They say it takes about 3 weeks to form a habit and the same amount of time to undo one.  I would guess that people get busy and stop using the spa on a regular basis and then it gets easier to skip it.  For me personally, buying a spa was a big purchase.  No way I could write a check like that and then not use it until I feel I've gotten my money's worth.  FYI, we spent about 18 months making our decision.  I don't know if impulse shoppers tend to tire of their spas faster or not.
Title: Re: Just an observation
Post by: dax on February 18, 2008, 03:33:30 pm
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FYI, we spent about 18 months making our decision.

18 months?  WOW!  We spent about 3 months which included searching websites, casually visiting stores, finding this forum, and then wet testing.  And I thought that was a long process.

We've had the tub for almost 8 months now.  It's no longer the weekly-entertaining nor family-binding oasis it started out as.  But the wife and I use it just about daily although not always at the same time.  The kids only use it a couple times per month with friends, and very rarely with us anymore.  That said, I'm still glad we bought it and I still look forward to soaking and relaxing in it.

Title: Re: Just an observation
Post by: Mendocino101 on February 18, 2008, 03:47:58 pm
Have you ever bought something that you thought you would use more than you do but you are still happy you have it knowing its there? I think about in ground pools, great ambiance but get used very little by adults and spas seem to get used more by the adults than the children.
Title: Re: Just an observation
Post by: Josh on February 18, 2008, 05:20:43 pm
When I was house shopping a few years back, I loved the idea that my new home came with a hot tub. At first, I used it weekly or more...then it started being once or twice a month and eventually, only during really cold winters....only if someone was coming over to go in with me.

Even though that was the case, when that tub broke, I was thrilled about getting a new one and the new one is so much better I use it all the time.  I don't think I use it more because it's new, I use it more because the experience itself is better.

Title: Re: Just an observation
Post by: Zep on February 18, 2008, 06:47:58 pm
Josh how often ya using the new LA Spa ?