Hot Tub Forum
Original => Hot Tub Forum => Topic started by: Campsalot on January 09, 2008, 10:59:34 am
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sell our 3 year old (this June) Sundance Maxxus. Why? We simply do not use it enough to justify owning it. My wife and I have been talking about this for 6 months. She wants to keep it when she's in it every 6 weeks or so as do I. Then we go about our busy lives and get too dang tired to go out at night and soak. I keep the water perfect and find myself silently cursing the cost of doing so because no one uses it! The dang thing sits less than 11 feet from our back door. You simply cross a wooden deck and step onto the concrete pad and go up the stairs and in the tub. So I'm curious as to what you guys think it's worth. I'm thinking six grand. That way I only lose 4! I'll also take suggestions from anyone as to what we could do to actually inspire using it! After all these posts recently about used tubs it seems the market place is rather dismal.
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Based on what I've seen lately, I'd think the most you'd get is $5K.
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You've got to make it a GREAT part of your day or week. Like a habit--healthy eating, exercise, clean kitchen after dinner, hot tub on MWF!
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It's worth what someone else will give you for it. Rough ballpark might be to try for your $6000 asking price and see what offers you get.
If spas are in brisk demand in your area you might get a reasonable offer.
If not, well, you might end up keeping it anyhow.
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I'm thinking -- in my market -- it would probably go between $4,000 & $5,000.
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I would honestly hold off on selling it. I have gone through highs and lows with my tub. Now I too, am in a low phase, hence the reason I have not been around lately. I use it once every two weeks if im lucky right now.
Here is what I think about hot tubs.
First off, they are a luxury, not a necessity. If it was a necessity, we would all own one. So to say that we need to use it everyday to justify owning it would be foolish. Because it is a luxury, it should not be viewed as a cost anymore. What are you going to do with the extra 4 to 6k. Really, it will be used on some other stupid thing that you will wind up regreting later on.
Second, the old expression you never know what you got until its gone. You may not use it as much as you once did, because the fad and fun of it has gone away. But trust me, like all good things in life, once its gone is when you will be kicking yourself in the ass, thinking I sure could use a tub right now.
Third, your life is so busy doing everything that you forget to indulge in the simple pleasures. Whats the first thing we all do on vacation. Rest and relaxation. When we go away somewhere tropical or to a hotel, one of the first things that we do is go in the pool or hot tubs. Why is this???? I think it is because we allow ourselves to relax and forget about the hustle and bustle of work and stress etc. Having a tub in your backyard so close is such a great source of relaxation. And although you may use it once and a while, think about the benefit of that right off the hop.
Fourth, as a man!!!!!! Think about the impact of this decision. Your wife wants to keep it. Now think about the next big ticket you want down the road. Your wife will use this as an example every time you look at a new item. Dont give the satisfaction of this.
Fifth, Habbits. You sound like you have a routine in your day with work etc. etc. Think of a diet. When we diet we usually fail because it is short term satisfaction and we usually fail. Now think of a life style change. When you change your lifestyle you usually succeed. So come up with a time frame. Maybe you can get in the habbit of going in twice a week. Just get out there relax and unwind.
I dont believe that anyone here can honestly say that there wasnt a time that they too went through a lull in tub use. Hold on, trust me,
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How old are you guys?
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Hi Campsalot, check your pm
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Here's my $0.02
I wouldn't sell it at this point. Although winter is a great time to soak the fact that it gets dark early is a trigger with some people to mentally wear down. I think it's called s.a.d.s. or something like that. I know I come home and by 8 PM I am ready to crawl into bed.
Since I always get into trouble when I call a tub a luxury, I'll let Bosco get the brunt of this ... he carries a gun! ;) ;D but I do agree with Bosco! You made the purchase and whenever you feel the need to indulge yourself it is right there. You spent the money and I will assume at this point it is still affordable so why not keep it. I know I don't use it too often as well but when I do - WOW!! I miss it.
Lives go into busy and not. In a few months it may not be busy and you will have something that is there for you to enjoy. Like Bosco said, you may regret it later.
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I got my tub after years of begging...but because I knew it would help me feel better from my Lyme arthritis. My husband, who was a tough sell, finally relented and we got a tub. He has said so many times that the tub is what gets him through the winter...the tub is the best thing that we ever bought...the tub saves him from the stress at work....the tub gives the family a great place to share time together...the tub lets us enjoy the outdoors in the coldest of the winter (which he hates)..and my favorite..he will NEVER be without a tub, no matter where we live. So there it sits on the deck, because we have also been busy, only the kids have enjoyed the tub lately. My cure for Lyme, the best thing we ever bought. And it is all by itself, nice and hot and lonely! We haven't been in for about 3 weeks. So how can we love something so much but not make time to use it? Sometimes life just gets in the way. I have no doubt that we will go through another run soon when we go in every night, and I would never consider getting rid of my tub. But quite honestly, I only know one person who has had a tub for years that uses it all the time, virtually every day. He never misses, but he has made it a part of his daily routine.
Don't sell your tub. Remember all the reasons that you bought it in the first place and hop back in and it will all be new again ;)
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I think my brother in blue (good to see ya back!) nailed it with his fifth point: Habit
If you and/or your wife commit to using the spa three times a week for the next month, I'd bet you wouldn't part with it. I've done the same thing, gotten out of the habit of getting in every night and then it seems like a burden to do so. At least until you do, then you remember how much you enjoy it and why you bought it.
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If you still love the tub at those times when you force yourself to use it, I would certainly keep it. The value of stress reduction is not over rated. And making it a 3 times a week must, as a soaker suggested, will keep you in the habit (and you do love it when you use it) and you won't feel so burdened by the upkeep. Vinny was right about S.A.D. in that many people have a lot less energy for everything in the winter due to the shortened length of the days and less sunshine due to cloudy conditions for a lot of winter weather areas. Do you think you will most likely go back to enjoying it, without force, in the summer? Maybe you will find that you want to close yours up in the winter?
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It really isn't that hard to put on your swimsuit, open the cover and get in the tub. I agree that sometimes it is mentally challenging to get off the couch but once you get in and start relaxing in the hot water you will wonder why you don't do this more often. Stress has a way of demotivating you away from the very things that would help you destress. I'm sure most people on this forum would agree that when you go on vacation and get away from the everyday grind you love soaking in the pool or hottub. I think everything in life is like this, even your love life with your spouse. Stress can make you think stupid things like, man I don't have the energy for romance but once you actually take the time you're like why aren't we doing this 7 days a week! LOL!!!
I think you just need to force yourself to let the chores sit for a half hour and go soak. You'll be amazed at how much better you feel afterwards!
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I read everyones responses last night, out loud to my wife. I have to say a special thanks to Boscoe, he just has a way of getting right to it. And do you know....he's right! Yes, money is tight but I'm not hard up for 4 to 5 g's. Plus his thought about future purchases is right on the mark. Someone asked; how old we are? I'm 44 my wifes is 43 and we have one daughter who is 13 going on 20! I also have to mention our Labrador Terrier cross Juno, as he's a major part of the family but not allowed in the tub.
OK back on topic. No it is not S-A-Ds, we live in ND and are very use to winter. In fact, winter is the primary time we use the tub because it's too dang hot in the summer. I would say our primary usage months are October through April.
We will take everyones advice and commit to using the tub a minimum of 3 times in the next 7 days. After a few weeks we will see what we think.
Another thing is we both started diets (why DW did I don't know). I need to lose 120 pounds over the next year. So using the tub may very well be some good medicine. But man, do I miss bread and pizza! Thanks again Boscoe and everyone else who added their thoughts.
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After a little more than a year of spatopia, I too find that I (or we) go through cycles of heavy usage and then maybe not for 10 days or so. The cool part about it is that absense makes the heart grow fonder, in that after 10 days out, it is even more enjoyable getting back in and I wonder why I thought my life was so hectic that I could not find the time to get in the spa.
I am glad to see that everyone (or at least most people) have ups and downs regarding usage. I too only know one person who uses his spa on a daily basis. My neighbor is 50, on medical disability from a construction work related accident, and has more hardware in his neck and back than Home Depot. He starts each day in the spa to loosen things up and get going.
Good Luck Campsalot--try the committing some time on a regular basis like someone mentioned. That was one of my New Years resolutions--find more time to do things for myself--and time in the spa is going to be one of those things.
Lastly, cburk, what is this swimsuit thing you mention? ;)
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OK..there you go Campsalot..My hubby and I are also starting a new diet. We are trying the South Beach diet and I have a theory. Maybe you and your wife can help me prove it!! I think that with the right combination of a good diet, drinking lots of liquids (water, not the high cal alcoholic ones ;)) and using the hot tub, women can reduce cellulite along with losing weight. It makes sense to me because the heat, and massage would help break down the clusters of fat. Of course your wife may not have any cellulite, (and great for her if she doesn't) but I know even some of my thinnest friends do...
If I am right, we can all skip the liposuction and head for the tub!! ;D
Now wouldn't that be a great selling point dealers?
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Well Well Well, it looks like the old Bosco has some smarts to him after all!!!!! Ha Ha. If I could only convince my wife of that, I would not have to wear the pants that she always chooses for me to wear.
I did not mean to be abrupt, honestly. In my line of work, there is absolutely no time or room for sugar coating. I guess force of habbit is to cut to the main point. I am a man and the one thing that I know is an excuse when I see one. 9 times out of 10, we men get bored of something and look for the next fix so to speak.
Some men, find this fix through girlfriends on the side and others find this fix through new toys. lets face it, when we all came to this site, it was not just to do research on hot tubs. We become obsessed with our newest toy right? I know it was like that for me. I posted more and more as I got closer to tub delivery and right after delivery then it slowed down a bit. Then I come and go from this site as my intrest in the tub comes and goes. An for the good friendships.
So I would place you as a guy who loves his toys. When the new toy enters the male brain, it consumes us. It makes us forget about other toys and hobbies, etc etc. Forget about the next fix. It is hard, because those who know me would say that I am border line OCD. But honestly you really need to forget about whats next. The reason I say this is because life is far to short. No one really understands this in life until it is to late. Examples, we see it every day. Getting the next job promotion, the new car, keeping up with the Jones's next door, etc etc.
I will say my friend, the only thing that matters to me in this world is my family. My wife comes from the type of family that are savers and I come from the type of family that spends what ever to enjoy memories in life. I never want to have regrets in my life that I never did something or wish that I could go back and change something. I live for today, maybe different then some, but when you face danger on a daily basis and see death hit all walks of life almost every day, you start to see the truth in this message.
.....So young bosco what are you getting at you ask???? If the tub gives you that 20min a day, a week a month a year of quality time that you and your wife or daughter can spend together and create memories that will last a lifetime, then so be it. Keep the dam thing.
Your last post also sheds some light on some things. Could your body weight have something to do with you not using your tub as much??? I will say, I went through a heavy time two years ago. I lost close to 50lbs and must say that before the weight loss, I was reluctant to go in a swimsuit infront of anyone, even my wife. Once I lost the weight, things changed, my confidence etc. etc.
Any how, I want to know what toy you had lined up next??? I know there was another toy that you were focusing attention on. And last but not least, I remember an article that someone posted here a while ago, showing a relation to weight loss and tub use.
And if all else fails, pm me when you are ready to sell the tub, and I will come out there and punch you in the face everytime that you think that it was a good idea!!! Just kidding, but seriously I will punch you if you want me too, I think that it is called classical conditioning.
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But man, do I miss bread and pizza!
My wife has started a Weight Watchers diet. From what I know about it, food is given a number of points based on calories, fat, & fiber content. Then based on your sex, weight, etc., you are allowed to eat so many points worth of food per day. Basically, you can eat whatever you want, but once you reach your point total you're done for the day. Anyway, she's come up with a pizza recipe which is worth two weightwatchers points, which are very fulfilling according to her. I've tried one recently, and it was pretty good. Don't know your situation, but perhaps this can help you out. Given the low WW point total, it must be low calories, low fat, and a decent amount of fiber.
LaTortilla Factory whole wheat, low-carb, low-fat garlic & herb tortilla
Two tablespoons of pizza sauce (any kind)
Sprinkle of onion powder, garlic powder, salt, Italian seasonings
1/4 cup shredded part skim milk mozzarella cheese
Chopped green pepper, chopped red pepper, chopped onions, chopped olives, chopped tomatoes (I also like jalopenos)
Bake 425*F for about 7 minutes