Hot Tub Forum
Original => Hot Tub Forum => Topic started by: txwillie on December 01, 2007, 04:39:58 pm
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Anybody tried this? I have a Sundance with the Micro-clean filter that you don't clean, but replace at 6-9 months. I changed the filter that came with the spa @ 9 months, second water change. This morning, I go out and the spa is @ 98F and has FLO message. Unscrew the filter, and circ pump flow (visible at the waterfalls) goes from trickle to normal, so the filter is clogged. Head up to the dealer. He says Sundance is having "issues" with the micro-clean filters and says use a standard filter until the "new and improved" version is out. He gives me a new Micro-clean gratis as he is out of stock on the paper filters.
If I decide to use the standard filter do you think cleaning it with vinegar is a good idea? Vinegar is really good at dissolving oils and calcium scale, so I thought it might be a good (and cheap) alternative to the filter cleaners. I hate filter cleaners as I could never get all of it out and foamed the tub.
txwillie
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Where do you get 5 gallons of vinegar?
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I'd be afraid of what my water would smell like after that. :-?
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A little salt, a few spices, you could pickle yourself.
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A little salt, a few spices, you could pickle yourself.
LOL - That's funny.
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I used to use vinegar in my RV water tank to give it a fresh clean smell. Let it slosh around for a couple of days, flush it out, and fill 'er up w/fresh clean water. Always tasted nice, never vinegary.
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Where do you get 5 gallons of vinegar?
The big box stores. If you do this, i would think you will want to rinse them with water a lot afterwards, vinegar could drive the PH way down.
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Where do you get 5 gallons of vinegar?
do you use 5 gallons of filter cleaner? I'd think not.
The big box stores. If you do this, i would think you will want to rinse them with water a lot afterwards, vinegar could drive the PH way down.
filter cleaners are very acidic, probably more so than vinegar. I don't see any difference here. As for the smell. vinegar washes out of just about anything very easily. I just have found that vinegar works better as a general purpose cleaner than most all of the bottled cleaners.
txwillie
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filter cleaners are very acidic, probably more so than vinegar. I don't see any difference here. As for the smell. vinegar washes out of just about anything very easily. I just have found that vinegar works better as a general purpose cleaner than most all of the bottled cleaners.
txwillie
You just need to be honest about it. You want to use vinegar to save a buck, not because it works better.
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You just need to be honest about it. You want to use vinegar to save a buck, not because it works better.
You would never know from some of the posts lately that this is supposed to be a group of people that have learned the joys of relaxation using a hot tub!
And actually, if you have had the chance to to do some cleaning lately, you might find that vinegar is better than most bottled cleaners and it is relatively non-toxic at the diluted level used for cleaning. ;)
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You just need to be honest about it. You want to use vinegar to save a buck, not because it works better.
White vinigar is a weak acid and will work as a pH down product. As a matter of fact, Pacific Sands recommends white vinigar over other products to lower pH (maybe to keep in its "all natural" approach).
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What a great idea for cleaning the filter!
I use a lot of vinegar, to clean with, also. I never thought of using it to clean the filter.
Any thoughts on the vinegar to water ratio? I would think full strength would be to much. Maybe 50/50?
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You just need to be honest about it. You want to use vinegar to save a buck, not because it works better.
That is one of the very most insightful comments I have ever heard. Didn't I see you on that psychic challenge show? Yes, I think I need to save $2 a month on filter cleaner after dropping OVER 20 GRAND of the tub, deck and stone work... Jeeze.... filter cleaners suck and I think it might be a good alternative.
txwillie
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What does a bottle of filter cleaner cost, anyway? It's not like vinegar is going to save all that much money. But if it makes you happy, it's your spa, so do whatever you like. But I can pretty much guess it won't work any better than filter cleaner (possibly not as good), and it probalby won't be all that much cheaper.
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Brewman....
For me it would not be the cost :)
Vinegar is a cleaning product I use a lot for cleaning around the house. Many folks here suggest NOT buying some spa products to change the pH. They suggest using common grocery store items over buying expensive dealer products i.e.Baking Soda
So, why be snarky with the resonable question as to using vinegar to clean your filters? :o
I would like to know if it may work. It would be ONE LESS thing I'd have to buy because I already have the item in my home.
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What does a bottle of filter cleaner cost, anyway? It's not like vinegar is going to save all that much money. But if it makes you happy, it's your spa, so do whatever you like. But I can pretty much guess it won't work any better than filter cleaner (possibly not as good), and it probalby won't be all that much cheaper.
I have used filter cleaners B4. I never thought they did much of anything to actually clean the filter, plus I could never get it all out/off and that resulted in foamy water. I devised a fitting that I would use to back wash the filters after using the cleaner. I would rinse, soak, backwash, over and over, usually spending 15-20 minutes on each and dozens of gallons of water, maybe hundreds. The result? Foam in the tub. Vinegar is used in many industrial applications to descale and degrease all sorts of things, so I thought it might be just as good as filter cleaner. IMO it certainly could be no worse than filter cleaner. Would it save a couple of cents? Maybe but that's not the point. I'm gonna try it. Maybe it works, maybe it doesn't. If it does, I might let ya'll know, but then again I might let ya'll continue to to foam your tubs....
txwillie
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Good luck with the testing. :) I think I may also give it a try. I'll let you know if it works. ;)
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FWIW, I use filter cleaner and never get foam.
Soak filter in filter cleaner, remove, rinse with medium pressure nozzle on a garden hose, fill up bath tub, submerge and remove filter repeatedly in a timely manner a few times, and put back in spa. No foam. Reuse the same 5 gallon bucket of water and filter cleaner 2,3,4... times.
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I'll be interested to see your results.
I don't have any foaming problems when I clean my filters. And I'm not the most thorough rinser, either. Just a few minutes with the nozzle of my garden hose or in the laundry tub if it's winter.